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On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
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not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it
do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what ??? nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things? because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +as if that means anything okay so let's play a game here you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothingonegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now @tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon care to explain? I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky. -squints at- i don't really understand this explanation what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2? explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky? Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time. why?
when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched
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On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:[quote] because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +as if that means anything okay so let's play a game here you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothingonegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now @tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon care to explain? I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky. -squints at- i don't really understand this explanation what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2? explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky? Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time. why? when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@ it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super then the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?
nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon
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On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.
If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.
Yolo.
wow good to know that you're actually not "actually not blue but VT fakeclaiming" but blue not claiming
if palmar dies superbia is conftown
if superbia dies superbia is dead and flipped
if both survive superbia is 99% scum and palmar is whatever
ezpz
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you're conflating "can dig as scum" with an actual scumread
i made it clear that that was a total sheep and not a hard read
+ Show Spoiler +oh but what an opportunistic read
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rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya
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why do you twitch a little when you see the "tw will always vote for survival" comment from shape
that's obviously linked to my eod2 and eod4 in storm and makes sense for him to bring up even if "always" has a sample size of 1
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On April 18 2016 06:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to
but why would you do that shenanny when you could lynch total scumlord tumblewood instead
and why am i scum with super? i'm not afraid of bussing and it makes no sense to try and "save" superbia there when he's obviously going to die one way or another [unless he's blue]
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and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing
0 towncred to be extracted there
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where did the gb read come from though
there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline
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On April 17 2016 01:24 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, well here are my problems with Superbia:
- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p)
- lack of meaningful contribution when he's here
- disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it)
- the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up)
@super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol
also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^
oh wait here it is
the only time you actually scumread gb
"getting more and more okay with it"
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i seriously ctrl + f'ed the last four pages of your filter and the only times you said anything about lynching gb were that post and the minutes before deadline
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timespan of rsoul read on gb
early d1 (14th - 15th) slight tr to null
middle d1 (15th to one hour before deadline) throwaway "getting okayer with lynching"
near deadline (one hour to ten minutes before deadline) ??? basically everything is about me
deadline (and the preceding ten minutes) ya let's shenanny gb
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On April 18 2016 06:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from? Meta, Sorry i couldn't explain (I had to blast) but I can now. As someone who has played scum with him, against him, and as town buddies, I kinda starting to understand Tumble. I was actually planning on coming forth with my identity (because I am the only one who would have that experience) earlier, but RL was a bitch. Basically, Let me give you a quick synopsis of how he plays. Tumble usually is a low content poster, who most of the time, respond with questions or makes a statement. His filter, as town, is usually low in fluff, and if it has fluff, it usually is still paired with content of some degree (his noir theme posts for example.) He also is pretty "cocky" if that is the word. Kinda smart ass too at times. rarely he will enter humor posts as town, and more so as scum (IIRC, he did this is ikido in the first scum game.) And he usually always votes for survival too, like always. Which he really should of here, considering the person was a scum read of his before the wagons got close. usually he goes "Alright, I am survival voting X." Even if it is a meh read of his. Again, the only time I never seen him do it is when he is scum (though, this point really should be taken with a bit of salt about the scum thing, as he and I did it for a distance play) I am just not getting the usual towny vibes i get from him when I am town and he is as well. Though i did click on his filter, and he has a 5 page filter, which i think is more than he had day 4 of any game lol.
let me give you a quick synopsis of how I play
I am usually a low-content, low-fluff poster. there is a trend, I think, of me having more fluff. I like to think that even my deadline fluff posts mostly had content in them, too.
I don't know where you're getting the humor posts thing as scum; nsm xix was my first game and should not be used to determine my playstyle because I had no idea how to play.
I voted for survival during storm mafia and never else.
this is an abnormally large filter for me because my plan for deadline was let myself get lynched so I can get some quality pressuring in. that is a special (speshul) case and should be treated as such.
even I'm not qualified to talk about my scum meta because outside of nsm xix all my scum experience is replacing into newbies and vets
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It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this
rsoul why is ows scum
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gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC
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Braglist
super - no explanation needed
rsoul - see filter, pages 1-3
jat - picking the low-hanging fruit
yw town
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oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to
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OWS what is the point of these emoticons
"oh no he felt angry face he must be town"
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On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote:
gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind
but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim
I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass
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