A normal game just for JAT <3 - Page 27

On April 27 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
and i even claimed gumdrops role -_-

On April 27 2016 17:51 Rels wrote:
Yeah SL' filter is good. There are weird things but it's SL, he's weird sometimes. The way he's involved in solving the game + rereading the game and commenting on it + roleswapping are all things he does as town. He has a hard time caring as scum, case in point: the other current game in which he was vig'd for being useless. Plus he was scumreading both Superbia and Onegu D1.
Let's finish this. The only drawback to this is that we lose to scum!JAT, but the chance of this happening if so small it doesn't matter.

On April 28 2016 00:24 Rels wrote:

If I was scum I wouldn't have killed OWS who hard townread me. The only difference between lynching today or tomorrow if you die is more time. Tumble has had way more time than he deserved already. He was almost lynched every day apart from D2, but he repeatedly did nothing. The "I swear to do more tonight" followed by AFK is the last straw.
The only drawback to lynching today is losing to scum!you, and I don't think you are scum.

On April 28 2016 00:37 Rels wrote:

You could do that if you were transparent with your reads before, but you're making it seem like you weren't and were only playing games to gain info.
Please state your reads on Tumble and I with reasonning.

On April 28 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote:


Theres alot of logic that points to you as scum but you played a really clean game. and a double bus early d1 I believe? or was that super tumble then that would only be a single bus.

Tumble thinking im scum all of a sudden is pretty scummy too. But hes pretty new and i was doing weird things so its not a thing I would ride or die with. obv we need to see more from him and I need to reread his filter (in context not a filter dive aka reread the game before I feel comfortable with him either way)

Onegus vote on tumble day 3 makes me think they were setting up a bus to have tumble win in final 3 after bussing onegu yesterday.

Both this vote and your day 1 vote seem equally bad so its a hard spot from vote logic

On April 28 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:

Even if I was scum, double bus was impossible D1 since Onegu wasn't a lynch candidate, unless you're talking about me supporting a vig shot on Onegu ?
Again, reread the D1 vote, the "logic" doesn't point at me, I voted Tumble when he scumslipped, which is something I can't predict as scum.

On April 28 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:

If this is true, this points at you being his partner and voting him early TBH. If he was feeling terrible, he would have known he needed to fakeclaim and Tumble or I would have bused him way harder, protected by the fact that he was going to fakeclaim.

On April 28 2016 01:15 Rels wrote:

It's an response to the argument "Rels voted Tumble when the vote was 2/2 Superbia / Tumble", not a general one. If Tumble was super townie but I voted him anyway 'cause I planned on doing that I would have looked terrible.

On April 28 2016 01:18 Rels wrote:

Sry that is a flawed logic. Just because in one game where Superbia didn't look super terrible you didn't bus him doesn't prove that in another game where Superbia looked terrible from the start you didn't bus him. And it's not even taking into account the fact that in that game Superbia was your only buddy and your jailkeeper.

On April 28 2016 01:20 Rels wrote:

False. This "planning" is actually the argument p: the argument is "Rels voted Tumble when it was 2/2", so yeah the timing part of the vote is the argument. It would be true if I had suddenly voted Tumble over Superbia when nothing in particular happened. .But since my vote was motivated by an event happening in the thread, the argument doesn't prove anything anymore.

On April 28 2016 18:28 Rels wrote:

If you believe that is what's happening you didn't read the last few pages

On April 29 2016 01:18 Rels wrote:

I wanted to see how you would react by saying I would not move my vote. You immediately going to the "I'm confirmed" plan is suspicious. That does not make you scum but you could have been confirmed town

On April 29 2016 02:11 sicklucker wrote:
hey jat how do you feel about everything thats happened in this game?

jat- its non alignment related really

but ya some unbiased opinions would be nice

On April 29 2016 03:31 Rels wrote:

Just because I think he's town doesn't mean I can't question him. I expected him to do one thing as town and he did another AND claim at the same time it confirmed him town.
I agree it didn't need the pages we spent on it though.

I basically would have never considered him to vote if he unvoted seconds before deadline. I think the temptation to iwn the game right there is too strong

On April 29 2016 03:35 Rels wrote:
And if you want me to stop talking about it, stop talking about it p:

On April 29 2016 03:38 Rels wrote:

Well now that you know how SL could have been confirmed town I can move on to defend myself against the case then