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Realized that I would be hosting XX and playing Haunted roughly by the time this fills. | ||
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On March 22 2016 00:42 Alakaslam wrote: KASLAM, fish! I will try to recruit irl people I am trying to turn heads as well. Idk, I might try to get them to sign up for this. But most of the people i played IRL with like 4-5 years ago i do not either talk to or know their names. And my friends only know mafia as a myth and would need exhaustive amounts of newbie-student mafia games to understand (ok 2 but still.) Or maybe i am just underestimating their power of the dark side of mafia. | ||
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I will like to apologize to all the scum players who I will either bus or find and lynch. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote: I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote.  Depends, Betend i am a Rhode Island during the articles of confederation. Sway me from saying no. as Rhode island always did. | ||
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Like slam thing is: brings up a point about slam trying. Ok, I am guessing the Gumshoe has played with him. He also didn't come out and say it was scummy. Meh, I can see either aligment doing this. Damdred thing was weird, basically a bunch purposed things about Damdred that he could be scumz. But is null and came to that conclusion. All off of 1 post. | ||
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I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol. On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote: Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait). Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton. What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here? | ||
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![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/60/81/01/6081014b60456d9e9208535092d19c7c.jpg) Got it stuck in my head now. | ||
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Superbia: slightly town Slam: Slightly town Damdred: Null Koshi:Nullz Gumshow: Null | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Beetlejuice! oks, 1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative) 2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / : 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? Really do not care for self meta or meta in general. I look at database thou. LS didn't help my likeness for meta. 3 sounds semi-attackish based off tone. | ||
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Shouldn't have been late. MAYBE I WOULD OF THOUGHT OF THINGS ABOUT YOU. ASDASDADASD Nullz Disregard the fact i was late by a hour ^^ | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:39 Superbia wrote: Explain your mindset behind this post. - Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null. - If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it? It's soft defending I won't lie. In that post. I was trying to understand what made you see a troll response. I agreed with you that there is a difference, but i didn't find it quote on quote trolly. I was trying to understand your view on it. I also made it because you want to discuss things and last game i played in (Noir) Town had a shitty atmosphere. | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:46 LightningStrike wrote: Don't meta to hard or you will end up like me(granted I might use some meta on occasions atm but I slowly trying to stop using meta) But i don't really use meta........ Glad though i sucked up and started to read one of Gumshows scum games. Post about his clan war thingy was funny, | ||
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Nice way of saying null, without saying null. What did you find interesting in it btw? | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote: Do you think it being trolly or not is alignment indicative for anyone in any way? Yes it does. Especially in your case since you are directly comparing the serious tone from Gumshow to this new "trollish" post. Unless this was a rhetorical question. I am bad at those. Why aren't you answering this clearly btw? | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:57 sicklucker wrote: incorrect. 50% chance of being mafia is very high. Thats the equivalent of a very strong day 1 scum read. I was probably talking out of my ass off one tone post tho Ok..I actually see what you with %'s. mean i guess since scum % is what like 20% out of the player list vs town 80%? 50/50 would be higher | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote: like 50% is a very good reasonable odds to think someones mafia passed off two posts do you want me to lie and say 90% to make a point or be retarded?. what a scummy thing you said Yeah i just realized what you meant with the %'s (see last post) i thought 50/50 as in half and half chance when i read it. | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote: People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it. I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe. When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up. But..... ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/p2vfXYJdRmPAY/giphy.gif) I go fast. | ||
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Since you hate this role talk, lets talk something else. What is your favorite color of a bomb pop? Also do you have any stances on player's alignment yet that you have not meation? | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:12 Superbia wrote: I didn't care for the troll part reply really. I disliked his early try-hard post so I pushed on it to see where it went. Made up the "troll" mind-set mismatch as being alignment indicative (it really is not) to give more juice to the push. - Like SL for joining. (Good townies need to start placing down votes earlier so we can get more information when gum flips or gets checked at some point.) Actually did not get that much info from it. - It feels kind of hard to evaluate gum's response, feels like pressuring him further will do nothing. Also I start to lose momentum when I pressure people too much because it feels like I'm being an asshole. He starts off leaning mafia for me this game. - Dislike your soft-defense on gum. You did see through the part that was bullshit so slightly 'yay' for that, but based on the reads list you gave me you shouldn't have been questioning me like that. Rather: you should have had me at null/leaning-mafia and be evaluating me based on the "wait, that's not really trolling" or whatever part you feel is alignment indicative (this is what you're saying you're doing). But you had me as pretty much your towniest person at that point (lean-town, but whatever, pretty much everyone else was lower) even though you seemed to have doubt on my push. So what was your town-read on me about? Weird that you would make up something like that IMO. Can slightly understand it thou. Let me answer your question. My town lean on you came you actually pushing the game forward. You are discussing things and pushing them, and even if i find fault in your push, at least your pushing something. Your creating a good town atmosphere, and granted somethings are off like that troll line, your still actually trying to find information. And while i disagree with some points (like the troll one) i noticed the difference as well, and understood what felt off in the 1st post. But it didn't feel right, so in a attempt to flesh out my read on gumshow and i bit on yours, i asked about it. | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:25 Superbia wrote: Meh. I really wanted to call you mafia. Any new thoughts so far? Sky and disinfomation has 10/10 times, regardless of my actual alignment. I kinda like Ls a bit more, seems to be moving things along. Rik. reminds me of a groundhog. Pops up, says something, sees his shadow, and goes back underground. Really do not understand the point of finding out if people are VT's or not. | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:29 gumshoe wrote: Kurumi is mah top scum read atm. She joined mah wagon around when it was safe, and started prodding at an established weakness with hightened prejudice. Sounds kinda like a basket arrangment of lynch choices, makes me doubt my initial suspiciun of super. If only if i was playing my old town playstyle Gumshow. I would be Pee-wee and you could be the cast from beetle juice  Now it is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqpZjC1IXts But yeah, i agree with you. She seems slightly tunneled on you for this early on in the game. Maybe she is trying to find info, but it is sus. here. Might be scum motivations at play, let me look at it more closely either tonight or tomorrow morning. | ||
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On March 24 2016 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Like Vivax are you scum this game? If you aren't you are trying to mislynch me like what Holyflare did to me in Games of Throne -_- Eh, I mean he has Koshi, Gumshow, and You as suspects/sus. of. Nothing really nothing other than: The bolded is a bit suspicious to me cause it's like gummy is trying to tell us how much work he has done to reach his conclusion, which is something he would do to reach a favourable impression. There's also the possibility he wants to give it some sort of statistical reliability which is what he will claim when confronted with this but I believe it's not a townie thing to say, combined with his previous post. Strucked me as werid. that above did because he because: Town lean for the fact that super here really wants to be acknowledged and sees the gumshoe vote as something that he should get credit for, not really the sort of cockiness I expect from mafia. It's a given super is not the D1 lynch. idk, maybe it is differnet and i am too tired to understand it. Just seems concentrically that he town read super but sus Gumshow for it. Anyways night | ||
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On March 24 2016 10:22 LightningStrike wrote: Honestly if Vivax is town he this guy atm and needs to see the light: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/) idk, why are you so defensive all a suddenly when you have stated that you are usually misread day 1? | ||
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On March 24 2016 10:26 LightningStrike wrote: Also I am normally defensive although variant in degrees of it so that is NAI ritoky. Well, Read shape read shape. Maybe you will get answers to questions. Hmmm, let me catch up before i do anything else. | ||
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It's Kurumi and I am a he. I have no idea what a bomb pop is and why it should matter. Yes, I do. I am very vary of ritoky, I like Superbia, LightningStorm. No idea what your sonic post was meant to bring to the thread. You seem to like the idea of gumshoe being town, but you have so far not done much to defend him or anything else. Why are you so careless about your town-read being the main topic so far? Jeez, we got ourselfs a person who do not like jokes. monotone guy who monotone is aggressiveness. About Mr.Gumshow, It was what? 3 or so hours into the game at that point? I defended him a bit (and to get some more flesh out of Super) but i saw your push and wanted to see how you interacted with him and pushed him without interference (something that i also do.) But let me be more clear: You come in, pick up the Scum!Gumshow bug and then basically semi-tunnel on him. Sure some of it (like in the 1st response back to you from Gumshow, question 2) were genuinely (as he kinda dodge the question in that one) but others felt a tad bit strechy or off from what i consider a townie mindset. I need to reread those anyway some time today so i get back to you on what i fully think your interaction with him later today. | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote: badumdum! ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol >< prelim thoughts - foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP - damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?) - slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time! - rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything - kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before - gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai hnnnn ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ Too early for this shit. Like something about dropkicking Slam and visas and shit. I am starting not to like this town play style of not posting what ever is on my mind because peeps are forgetting that good ole Shape is in the game. Oh well, beggers can't be spammers. | ||
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On March 24 2016 18:16 Palmar wrote: Announcement: gumshoe the Expedition Member has been shot. He is now dead. Great, this morning is just getting better and better. Wonder what other magical things you guys have been up too while i been asleep. | ||
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On March 24 2016 22:54 rsoultin wrote: don't know kuru from adam lol >< WoT was kinda awful tho no one finds it interesting that tumble's already talking about a gum town flip and looking for scum on the wagon? could be lining up lynches...though to be fair gum coulda been looking more townie by then (not sure when exactly he first mentioned it and cba to look it up before class ^^) pues, that said, i'm out i'm all for slam/rit wagons right now ^^ go forth and do good work, minions! For me, the weirdest thing from tumble so far was the fact he posted this: On March 24 2016 14:26 Tumblewood wrote: I'm signing off for the night 2 hours since his last post. so it either means he was in the thread reading for 2 hours or got off and came back later to post that he was off? Tumble is a low poster, and so far his other posts kinda was where i was at (Gum as possible lynchbait.) I'll wait till he is back so he can explain the above but i think he is towny enough (from both a meta and post wise) to not be a d1 lynch. | ||
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On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote: Wasn't me. Dibs on Slam, he literally spammed the thread saying that he is going to kill someone. Also, bollocks. I really was wrong. I really was too harsh. I wanted to keep up with that and attack Koshi, but then he decided to play his Town game and break all the vows and rave around. So Koshi moved from a scum-leaning to town-leaning in my eyes. Play after gumshoe's death and his relentlessness about ritoky only proves that. Also, don't do the list only Koshi, because what I am doing right now is giving you a pass for now, not forever. As for ritoky: Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia. I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town. So that's it for the current things. I will look up shoe's filter and wander around in thread as well, because I need another shot of Scumus Readus for both this shift and another or I'll goddamn die. Wonder if the bolded is actually genuine or not. Eh, i can see it as either or so NAI i guess for right now. I actually like this post a bit except from the bolded, the bolded just sounds weird. Maybe it is just me. | ||
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On March 24 2016 23:09 Superbia wrote: Timeline 1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit. 2? Sicklucker joins push. 4? shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit. - shapelog has gum as null - shapelog has superbia as lean-town 5? kurumi opens up day with tunnel on gumshoe. I am only guessing 3 got lost on the expedition. Feel like something is missing from this so let me look back in a few. | ||
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On March 24 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote: Forgot about tumblewood guy so let's give him a scum-lean as well. What? You forgot about someone so scumlean them is totes the best way... Instead of looking at their posts and determining it form them? Maybe you flesh this out, otherwise if not, please do so at your earliest convince. | ||
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On March 25 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote: Forgettable people usually have a very high chance of being mafia. It's a legit reason on its own. Eh i guess so. But he should have something else to go along with it theoretically since he also looked at the gumshow wagon/read timeline on gumshow. | ||
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I am finish that timeline thingy that Super started and he didn't actually commit to a read on gum like i thought he did. | ||
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On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote: Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land: And posted 25 minutes before it happened: So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird. More proof in the post where he said he would shot Rsoul but it was too late for a change don't know the time stamp on it though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:00 justanothertownie wrote: Since you just looked at it - when did he make this post about rsoultin where he says "too late now"? Was this before the second quote? Because if that is the case this is really odd. :/ Read shape Read | ||
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1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit. 2 Sicklucker joins push. 3. Shapelog wonder why push is happening, rereads and found some things weird. Did not join. 4 Damdred wants Gumshow to explain more. 5.LS dislikes post from Gumshow -however later says he does not want to vote due to earilyness. 5.5 Super posts about 180 6. Gum comes back. posts 7. Super i am guessing jokes to LS to vote Gum for safe passage into the town land 8. shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit. - shapelog has gum as null - shapelog has superbia as lean-town 9. kurumi opens up day with tunnel on gumshoe. -Also inculded a point about Koshi 10. Gumshow calls Kurumi mafia. 11. Vivax comes in, has a point on Gumshow -places him in null scum side 12. Tumbles comes into the fray -Does not find Gum scummy, if the claim is true about skimming games. Never follows up though. -holds off from saying anything #286 13. Damdred sees Gum getting bullied, still want more reads. 14. Kuminini still pushes 15. Rsoul nulls him 16. Tumble " If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum." calls Gumshow lynchbait, but still does not commit to a read on Gum. 17.Rik. town reads him 18. quick reads from Gumshow that are his final reads. Yeah looking back at it tumble didn't do really what i thought he did. He came to a similar conclusion, but yet actually did not commit to a read on Gum. He was fence sitting. I do not think i miss anything. I am about to change cp's so i give more thought once i changed | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:14 Damdred wrote: Part of me though is really tempted to punish super anti-town move. Also shape getting upset saying he would catch up and giving no thoughts is interesting, even if he is trying to tone down his spam he's really side line atm. Yeah, i agree. | ||
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Kurmini and Gumshow, I am debating rather or not this is actually town v town or Scum v town atm. Kumini thing about fishing is a tad bit weird when you consider his response to Riks. fishing. Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia. I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Vs this before the flip You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie! I wonder if Gum flipping town made Kuminini change face due to the fact that he tunneled onto the gum. Which goes along with how he phrased his last post. About being apologetic and stuff. His anger, to be fair, was brought on by the fact that Gum either dodge some questions (see 1st response from Gum, point 2,) and from the confusion it seems about SL. Kumini tone is a bit aggressive here though. Which is prob. the reason why i hate to call it town on town here. Points sounded at times like a attack than a questioning. But it was dropped as he flipped (not just on gum, but on others.) I would like to see Kumini expand a bit also on his reads. So far he really on has focused on SL, Gum, and rik. With a meta read on Koshi. I have been questioned by him also, and await a follow up from him. Something feels off with their interaction. idk, maybe it is just my gut fucking up again. His last post also felt townie minus the bold. I also do like this from Kuminini though upon looking in his filter: On March 24 2016 08:53 Kurumi wrote: No role discussion, unless you are Scum and are benefiting from it, damn you! Ritoky, why bring VT thing in the thread?! Tumble: Eh it was there but didn't do much despite (i am guessing here) getting town vibes from Gumshow being lynch bait and focused a tad bit on the wagon. I feel though, that i want him to come back and answer the 2 hour gap in posting and his thought process (as iirc, this is not the first time he has done this) Annoyingly his timezone is pacific and so i rarely get to interact with him. Super: Super was the main starter on the wagon (obv.) He done some weird things, but, he literally admitted to frabcating (I am using fracbacted because he littlearly said he made it up to push Gum) the troll thing on Gum. Why would scum ever do this? Other things. like driving discussion and such makes me think he is town. He is even going the extra mile and looking into the flip townies filter. Some reads a bit weak/off though. Still like him | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote: Good morning. Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky. Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending. I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked. As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean. Ritoky probably is in fact VT. Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Yeah the fishing thing is weird. some of his posts though rubbed me as town. (totaly did not quote this for just to use the blending song) | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:52 Rels wrote: can you shut the fuck up and wait for Slam to either claim his role or fake it Irony. + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote: Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land: And posted 25 minutes before it happened: So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird. On March 25 2016 01:01 Rels wrote: Yeah it was before. That post where he is like "mm I need to make up my mind" is the last thing he posted. On March 24 2016 22:21 Rels wrote: List of breadcrumbs: On March 24 2016 22:30 Rels wrote: His explanation doesn't make sense with his actions I think but I want to talk to him. I don't have any solid read on anyone, jumping on gumshoe wagon or not. Strongest town I have is Koshi and Vivax. ritoky and Slam's actions don't make sense so I want to see if they can explain it. On March 24 2016 22:37 Rels wrote: It was bad unless Slam HAD to shoot somebody today or something like that. On March 24 2016 22:57 Rels wrote: Slam might be town because of the way Palmar balances his games: Which is "regulate balance by giving guns to town". At the very least, he is very likely town if we find out later that there is no other town KP. | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:19 sicklucker wrote: I think Ls is scummy. I also think dandred is scummy. I also KNOW a scum dandred would hard defend a scum Ls and probably a town Ls too. SO lets start there since I have an oddly good town circle Yes lets start by you giving us reasons upon which you find them sus. other than they can defend one another as either aligment. | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:26 Koshi wrote: Rels is mafia, the shut the fuck up is completely out of place and I saw him do that in Star Wars mafia. Wrongly called him town for that behaviour. Kurumi his post is indeed good. Both players get swapped in the list. Didn't he do that to me or yammty/gerpit last game? Anyway, Eh, idk about Rels yet (i am bad at reading him for anything but scum) the STFU about slam when he has been talking about slam is a bit weird. 3 people btw now who has not posted anything. | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:33 sicklucker wrote: Ls saying its too early to vote his own scum read. Dandred having him at the top of his town list is something I know a mafia dandred would do regardless of Ls's role. ALso him not even mentioning me when me /ls.dandred were just mafia together and im so obviously different this game and town. Fair enough on the LS thingy, i think it is more of a playstyle choice since i think about shit like that for the longest time, even when i am getting lynched ) but i see where people are coming from with him.Damdred, eh. I think he did it in Nut (or reversed or something) as townie. That point is more of a associative read on Damdred that has margin for error, even if LS is scum and flips so. the last point is fair enough i guess. I mean they don't have too but it would be nice of them to do so. so @ them, would you do so? And gave a read on SL based off his content this game as well? Overall, i really do not like your reasons. Tad bit too weak for a lynch. | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:37 Damdred wrote: Your so boring SL I can't have a opinion that's decent Your boring! boring boring booooooooring! All you are doing is sparking him Damdred. I feel like you gave some what of a read on SL. | ||
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Was it Tictock? Who him? Couldn't be. 1 person stole from the posting jar! Was it Sandman? who him? couldn't be. .... I stole from the jar...Fuck off. | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote: badumdum! ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol >< prelim thoughts - foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP - damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?) - slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time! - rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything - kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before - gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai hnnnn ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ On March 24 2016 12:43 rsoultin wrote: -squints at- well then i don't remember at all lol so prob JOAT...JOAT treated me like scum jat and shot me in the face :/ no one's foil ^^ i was referencing a post of yours, obscurely, cause that's how i roll ![[image loading]](http://cde.3.depor.pe/ima/0/0/2/7/8/278151.gif) So painful.....I need a translator. i don't even understand what she was talking about with damdred read.... Like i think she had what? 3 nulls, plynch 2 townies? Am i correct? | ||
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I want to win this game and shitfighting is on the bottom of my list right now. | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:41 Alakaslam wrote: NO IN FACT THEY WONT LIKE I AM SO PROUD OF MY SHOT OR SOMETHING? WHAT THE FUCK MAN. TELL ME NOT TO SIGN UP GET THE HELL OUT WITH YOUR GUILT TRIP BULLSHIT NO ACTUALLY IA M OUT. I don't come here to read this kind of shit and run my blood up. well, slam...I am here, and willing to talk to you. Why don't you and me go get ice cream or something? | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:55 Stutters695 wrote: Did not realize this started already. Going to start reading now. Any thoughts yet Mr.Stutter? | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:50 Koshi wrote: Lynch Slam. I don't believe he had to shoot before the 24h mark. Why do it so fast? LYNCH SLAM. Why would Scum!Slam do it? too scummy to be scum? That is litteraly the dumbest play from a scum i ever heard from. And i am only 6 games into my mafia life. | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:51 VayneAuthority wrote: How likely does a "have to shoot day 1 vig" sound in a non experimental game to you just curious? very unlikely. palmar is a crazy payaso if it is legit. Which i kinda find highly likely | ||
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On March 25 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote: Shape, if you had to lynch someone right now, who would you go for? Hmm, Rsoul is kinda off a bit due to her reads. From what i understand (and i really do not) she had 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads? Still do not understand it. VA hasn't done much, and if he doesn't pick up i might lynch. I am guessing Tumble was here and choose to instead responded to things to defend himself from the JAT master. I am not sure really about him (as he needs to answer my questions) Rels is on the fence for me. Maybe one of Rsoul/VA/ and maybe Tumble off the top of my head. I am diving here and there | ||
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On March 25 2016 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: JAT, Koshi, and Shape can I have your reads atm please? It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list. Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread. Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie. SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days. Vivax -> Town lean Some Nulls/unsure: Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident. Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today. LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done. Sus. people IMO Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here. Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh. Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching. VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town" OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more. Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him. Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar. People i am currently investigating Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town. JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT. Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote: Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here  Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie. Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:16 Tubesock wrote: Shapes moved up my list. Also to clarify my earlier list had Jat and Rels just below Vivax. Probably should have used colons or something to make it more clear. Shape, can you elaborate on either/both of Superbia and Kurumi? Ah, it didn't read off like that. and sure. Super: He kinda has fizzled a bit. But early on he was pushing town development and even admitting to frabacating a reason to push Gum. idk what kind of scum admits to that. And although i found some of his Koshi agurement weird, i could understand it. It didn't rub me wrong while i was catching up. Kurumi: I admit the fishing treatment difference between Rik and Gum was off and some other points. But after rereading his last post, the aplogize tone there feels more townie than mafia. That really all that changed from: On March 25 2016 02:12 Shapelog wrote: Alright, Kurmini and Gumshow, I am debating rather or not this is actually town v town or Scum v town atm. Kumini thing about fishing is a tad bit weird when you consider his response to Riks. fishing. Vs this before the flip I wonder if Gum flipping town made Kuminini change face due to the fact that he tunneled onto the gum. Which goes along with how he phrased his last post. About being apologetic and stuff. His anger, to be fair, was brought on by the fact that Gum either dodge some questions (see 1st response from Gum, point 2,) and from the confusion it seems about SL. Kumini tone is a bit aggressive here though. Which is prob. the reason why i hate to call it town on town here. Points sounded at times like a attack than a questioning. But it was dropped as he flipped (not just on gum, but on others.) I would like to see Kumini expand a bit also on his reads. So far he really on has focused on SL, Gum, and rik. With a meta read on Koshi. I have been questioned by him also, and await a follow up from him. Something feels off with their interaction. idk, maybe it is just my gut fucking up again. His last post also felt townie minus the bold. I also do like this from Kuminini though upon looking in his filter: Tumble: Eh it was there but didn't do much despite (i am guessing here) getting town vibes from Gumshow being lynch bait and focused a tad bit on the wagon. I feel though, that i want him to come back and answer the 2 hour gap in posting and his thought process (as iirc, this is not the first time he has done this) Annoyingly his timezone is pacific and so i rarely get to interact with him. Super: Super was the main starter on the wagon (obv.) He done some weird things, but, he literally admitted to frabcating (I am using fracbacted because he littlearly said he made it up to push Gum) the troll thing on Gum. Why would scum ever do this? Other things. like driving discussion and such makes me think he is town. He is even going the extra mile and looking into the flip townies filter. Some reads a bit weak/off though. Still like him I have just realized though that he actually kinda called Rik scum their but kinda backtracked. I am still wanting him to flesh out his reads. Though, idk if i would lynch him this cycle though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:23 LightningStrike wrote: Oh I not going to question why you using a meta read I just wondering because I honestly can't read him for shit because Linux didn't do nice things to me regarding saltshaker :\ Oh yeah, i remember that. That is what you also said last game as scum with him I am actually quite surprise that you didn't catch it though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:32 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly had lost my ability to read him ask Tina when she is around because I did admit it to her in real life before this game. Jeez man, i joking. I can't read Rels for shit either (well sometimes, depends of if he is being hateful or not) Still didn't catch it thou.... Thought you knew me. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:43 LightningStrike wrote: No I don't + Show Spoiler + I actually know you but I went full retard on that. I am just going to drop it because it wasn't going to be useful On March 25 2016 05:43 sicklucker wrote: oh ya i remember this guy. hes vivax level scum player lets lynch him If he is not here, and it is like a few hours till deadline. I might vote, rather vote someone that is not Plynch basically thou. Also TT finally showed up. So sandman is last one. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:49 sicklucker wrote: holy shit you have a read on me for the first time in after 30 games played together? perhaps you should read further. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote: no I understand but he came out and basicly said "why is sl a town read for you?" Like why would he do this if he cant read me? It makes no sense. He would go "sure, ok, i Have no idea" that's what a town ls would do Hmmm. I really do not know if that is what a town Ls would do, so i might check data. | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote: Pretty sure I should make it to D4 or D5. Afk till then. This, kids, is what the deadly sin, sloth, looks like in a mafia game. ^^ I beening useless, so cut the useless chatter. I am starting to open a can of spam., | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:01 Tubesock wrote: Superbia seems pretty consistent to me. I don't see this fizzle out. What do you mean about his Koshi argument? Do you disagree that Koshi can't be mafia and do what he did in regards to his emotional burst? As far as Kurumi goes, I'd argue that mafia needs to act remorseful when they kill a towny. Maybe not needs but often does. Helps blending in and showing they care and are trying to reevaluate. I don't think that should be a towny point. I meant Fizzled like disappeard/slightly less interesting. I don't disagree with the chance that Koshi could be scum in regards to that. On March 24 2016 22:52 Superbia wrote: Actually my problem lies with Koshi's push, and it doesn't necessarily directly relates to Koshi's alignment, but more to the fact that I feel he may have been spewed by mafia (i.e. people are calling him town too quickly). I will elaborate. Koshi's "anger-push" on Ritoky was completely unfounded, as Ritoky had gum high in his town-list (a post that was posted pretty much before the shot), as a result of his post (and a small number of other circumstances), Ritoky would've never shot gum. This is somewhat obvious from first glace, and completely obvious after looking deeper into it (even without considering Slam's soft). I felt that the emotion behind Koshi's post was townie, but the content was absolutely not. It was undirected and based on nothing close to logic. I believe that this does not mean Koshi is mafia, but rather that the people who piled on to calling Koshi town that quickly are more suspect (i.e. I'm the first to bring this up). I actually misread this. I read the main paragraph on catching up. Eh you might be right about that. Actually come to think about it, i think iirc there was something about mafia apoloizing more in the XXX Analist. I relook into Kumuni. | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:11 Rels wrote: So ? I want to know what is going on with Slam role, and at the same time I don't want people to give him an easy fakeclaim is he's scum. But then why did you post this? On March 24 2016 22:57 Rels wrote: Slam might be town because of the way Palmar balances his games: Which is "regulate balance by giving guns to town". At the very least, he is very likely town if we find out later that there is no other town KP. It tech. gives him a out. I will admit that the irony thing was a semi-joke though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote: Good morning. Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky. Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending. I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked. As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean. Ritoky probably is in fact VT. Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...[/QUOTE] Since you are here, and been looking and surely have notied things. Do you have any new reads? | ||
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Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... Since you are here, and been looking and surely have notied things. Do you have any new reads? or thoughts? better | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote: So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it. So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers. ##Vote Alakaslam On March 25 2016 03:39 Alakaslam wrote: Cannot shoot after day1, Suspected one of either Gumshoe or Kurumi, Felt that Gumshoe was not adding useful talk and being distracted by my old meta. Who is crying so hard? "Slam shot wrong dude plynch him now" Vindictive AND an asshole, I see. Take a higher road than I take in every way or not at all. | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:40 Rels wrote: LOL shape you used the same word than I on VA. I like your read list. I am sueing for copyright in-figment. | ||
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Rik needs to come down here. CAPSLZ LOCK isn't helpful. I kinda agree with rik here. I liked the idea of the plan (like i said) but the execution was horrible. It made me think about suvs :/ Though this flip out is weird. | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:33 Kurumi wrote: Is it really that huge? 21 players total. 4 probably Mafia. 17 players left. 8 players believe that they are Town. You still have 9 Townies not sharing that sentiment. That's excluding possible 3rd party shenanigans and different Mafia size (I could see it being 5 even). It does not seem that huge. Because it is 8 players analysing 13 players, you are much more likely to down or out a blue. This would probably result in last minute switch shenanigans and disorder. This would lead to Mafia having even more information. In that 8, you could have three Mafia who figured out that it is a good idea to get on that Ford Wave and now you have 5 townies believing strongly that 3 players are Townie, but are actually Mafia. Mafia creates lynch after lynch, blue blood is the last sight of the day, blue blood is the first sight of the day and since this setup is about being careful, I don't see it being good. Wait hold on. I am going to use this 8 logic here because i am confused now. + Show Spoiler + So Best case would turn it into 8 v 13 right? Let say about 5 roles are 3rd party/mafia So 8 v 8 v 5..... Mafia would have some kinda of KP so they would shot into the 8 vt;s or whatever, let say 3rd is a kill role. So each night 2 of the confirm townies die, or they shot into the suspect pool. The 8 blue roles would then check eachother/use their power on the other people (assuming they have a power). Well, Instantly, a tracker/watcher would be fuck over because any person they check would go somewhere. The only way to get a good track is to track to a death. All the other ones are useless because they can't determine anything. They only have a 2/25 chance (N1) of catching scum. And they can still be vig technically. But lets say it was 10 or something 10 v 11 -> 10 vs 6 vs 5, Blue roles have to cover less people. But that is still 10 other people a invest blue role has to either check or track. Not to mention that any of the 10 vt's could be shot theoretically (scum/3rd party killer would pick high value targets) And this is not meationing if the roles are not trackable or watchable. Then Physiologically, some invest blue roles might check the vt to make sure they are vt's. thus wasting a check. I guess the protection and vet roles would be fine/in a better spot. idk about what would happen if you than make everyone out of the circle claim. Eh it not that great when i look at it like this. | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:50 Kurumi wrote: Jesus I've been leaving you and your "Kurumi is X." Some posts later "Kurumi is Y." later: "Hey Dude, do you think Kurumi is more of a X or more of a Z?", are you able to make your goddamn mind about anything without the help of others? It feels like you are trying the ground everytime you do post a read. You feel very insecure and for a person with such contrary opinion to the current state of the thread your defense of ritoky is very weak. What is good about the concept? You agree that execution was bad, but why and why would it point to ritoky Town? IIRC i didn't do the bolded. Tube questioned me about it and i said i would look back at your posts. I thought the concept was good because it would theoretically make a good town circle if it worked. I didn't take into the account of what happens to the blue roles and how it would play out (I should of). I think rik is town because he tried to make a play that would help town in his opinion. Why would scum put that much attention on themselves? to snag some blue roles? I admit the excuation was awful because of Calling Damdred blue/scum, thus giving away any benefits it might have. Also if it was a mafia play, i think it would of been thought out more and he wouldn't out it. I feel like he hasn't really plan for a response to this mess, which would make since if he is town. | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:59 justanothertownie wrote: Are you 2 seriously arguing over the completely irrelevant math of a number ritoky obviously just made up to prove his point? Wtf. I was trying to understand why it was bad to people. | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:08 Superbia wrote: All right, now that I have both your attention I want to continue the train of thought. Everyone kind of agrees that gumshoe's post was somewhat scummy, and that it was an easy scum-push regardless of alignment. So I'm inclined to believe that -a- scum would pile on the push. Agreed? Yes. | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:14 justanothertownie wrote: I think we can all agree that ritoky thought it would get him townread regardless of his alignment, no? On March 24 2016 18:58 ritoky wrote: DAT ANGLESHOOTING THO! CONF TOWN ME BAE. + Show Spoiler + ignore the part where mods may have distributed fake role pms to mafia that makes me not fully confirmed, altho the "you don't get unnecessary stuff bit" makes me doubt it a bit wow i am legit proud of myself right now for how i gamed dis bitch. i mean it crumbled in flames and didn't yield what i wanted but that's on other people not responding properly imo, the plan was solid in my head and in my heart. True. Moving on though. | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:23 Superbia wrote: I like shapelog's filter too kind of. But I don't know his meta. + Show Spoiler + I am changing my style. But there is one thing that all my past games (inculded scum) had, ![[image loading]](https://managewp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/spam.jpg) only scum game (XIX) i had 30 pages | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote: Tumblewood is like 80% scum. Wasn't he here a bit ago? He still needs to answer my question >_< | ||
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Public Security Announcement to TumbleDore You have been here and posted 5 posts, and apparently have either caught up with the JAT question post or just jumping to the last written page. PLEASE FOR THE ANERGYFISHMAN GOD Answer: Why was there a 2 hour gap from your sign off post with your last post and what were you doing. Plus any other question that i asked you. -Signed with love. Shapelog | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote: I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us? Thoughts anyone? lol i forgotten about Damdred. need to dive him. I want Tumble to answer my question. I still think Rsoul might be mafia. | ||
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On March 25 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote: Why on rso? Also did you think tumble was mafia the moment you finished the gumshoe timeline thingy? I have, a list you know, explaining my ideas. Page 4 of my filter. Should check it, maybe bring a gif or 2? Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free. She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic. Also add the afkness and just a fixation on the slam/rik lynch. She just seem to take the least path of resistance. About tumble. I before doing the timeline, gave him a same town lean because i thought he committed to a read on Gum. Which he didn't, so I placed him in null. I wanted him to answer the time gap and prehaps talk to him (or at least get him to comment) on gum. He has not done so. A course, i do not see both of them being scum. | ||
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Anyways, I still would lynch: VA- Mellow yellow, need more out of him Tumble/Rsoul- one of them. Want TUBMLE TO FUCKUONG RESPOND!@!!!! Mr.Stutter - Just disappeared after asking me a question OWS Sandman as a Plynch Still need to dive JAT, Kunimi, Someone i prob. forgetting. | ||
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On March 25 2016 12:22 Tumblewood wrote: I just got back. Shape, chill. I don't know what 2-hour gap you're talking about or why it matters, but if it was last night it was because I was lurking while doing calc homework and if it was today I was phoneposting between classes. Also, I committed to a read on gumshoe when I called him lynchbait. Lynchbait = Town that looks like obvious scum. Actually the timestamps are only a hour apart and when i was looking at it was 2 >_< On March 24 2016 12:29 Tumblewood wrote: Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more town-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum. You say you committed to a read, yet you do a hyperterical about him flipping town. Hmmm... Let me.... Change that and.... Alright it reads better. But now i actually have a question. So Vivax is the only one who did not jump on the wagon for that reason, but he is still in the same category as the others? On March 25 2016 12:54 Tumblewood wrote: Shape, what leads you to believe that I can't be scum with rsoul? I just don't think the way she read you would be scum v scum. Could be wrong, but it wasn't weak enough or overly strong. Something made me think of it like that. | ||
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On March 25 2016 22:30 LightningStrike wrote: ^ Slowly he joining the likes of Vivax and Shape on how to use tinfoil. Don't tempt me. I might or might not actually have one here. | ||
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On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote: quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^ and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of - her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game) and - she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?) like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either i'd prefer scum though can we lynch rit now? :/ So jumpy! I can't even follow this post. So: ShaSlam is scum Tumble is Scum I am scum Rik is scum Sandman is something. About half of these are OMGUS....... | ||
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On March 25 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote: The town circle (in order of confidence) Vivax Slam - I seriously doubt that he's a mafia day vig Kurumi - stepped up his play just now, but I'd like to see less reads on the basis of how your reads line up Rels - had a very insightful townread on Kurumi Superb - reason stated minutes ago; largely transparent ObiWan - insightful while he's been here, but hasn't posted enough to make me confident Woah...... On March 24 2016 12:29 Tumblewood wrote: Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more lynchbait-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum. So I am guessing you are scum reading SL here as well. Also, based on this post, why do you think they are town in relation to wagon? | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:15 Tumblewood wrote: Trying to catch up from my phone, but you're making a new post for every two I read. I think one of Kurumi and LS is scum, because they were the gumshoe wagon starters (I don't feel comfortable scumreading either of the other two) and he was the target for a mislynch. Also, all of you scumreading Slam for that shot are idiots. He was wrong, but he's obvious town because of it. So you Town read 1 of the people on the wagon that you felt was sus. Town read the others, and now SL is im guessing the scum on that wagon? | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: Townies push other townies, but for different reasons. Gumshoe posted really awkwardly (a la big ramble), and that paints a big target on his back that says, "Lynch me!" Townies look more at the people who aren't so obvious because the quality of the lynch actually matters to them. So Tumble has to be scum reading SL here. | ||
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On March 26 2016 00:26 rsoultin wrote: do you really? should i give you a quiz? there are several things that have been wrong in your posts about me ^^ maybe you should save yourself the humiliation of my pointing it out to you by actually giving enough of a fuck to read the posts of your own scumreads, and go point out your mistakes i'm waaaaiiiiting ^^ But i love humiliation >:/ But i love it when it is served both ways! idk, i never played with a "Good" Tina before (Still Crossed at you from Devial!!!! Made me claim and even RB me from seeing vig), I still find you off. I prob. relook into you. Speaking of looking, filter dive time. I F5 this here and there. | ||
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Does he really only have Kuru as a scum read? I know he was ok with the sandman Plynch, but is that really it? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/df/12/19/df1219eb8ec744f1c4f65b96bd158705.jpg) Why are you reading this, Read the results you Jihic! JAT, He seems to be aggressive, which i am guessing lines up with his meta nd what i saw from him in the obs qt in outlaw. He refused to give out reads, but given his overall tone and the way he goes though things, he is not someone i would lynch day 1. idk about necessary if i would call him town, but If i had to choose, i call him town. Kurumi, I am just going to bullet these, to lazy to do paragraph it. Off things
However, overall i still like Kurumi. there are things about him that made me rethink from earlier (when i was sus. of him) he still is a bit iffy b/c of the things above. Still would like more divisty though from him. He kinda hasn't done that (kinda has tunneled on Tube and Gum) he kinda spreaded out into reads on VA and sand (both of which i agree with). I kinda now have him on a watch list. Koshi, I filter Koshi because i thought he went MIA short after being town read + difference in treatment of 100% mafia x (I was X last game in Noir, was fun ^^) Iz was wrong. Only complaint is that he drop the list thing. He is showing all signs of the rage Koshi i know. Nothing else really challenged that as well. So far everything checks out. Also in case you were wondering about the 100%mafia is X thing, Koshi tends to rage and call everything that person does scummy and bitches about them not getting lynched. I thought he was being mellow (for koshi) with his Rik thing, but it was fine after i look at it. Actually there is one thing that is kinda off. On March 25 2016 23:56 Koshi wrote: No wait. If ritoky isn't happening I will put in on tumble. He has given up early. Last game he fought until the deadline and only switched because it being PIMI or what ever the instant lynch thing was called. even though i kinda agree on tumble. Feels weird that dropped it so fast. Overall, i still would call him maybe a town lean. Would like for him to maybe explain a tad bit on tumble. + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote: You aren't 100% on ritoky. He fucking shot town over obvious mafia and you didn't see it and sucked up to him for 4 full days. I do'nt remember what game. But it happened. Lynch all liars. Stop lying or claim mafia. On March 25 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote: Pretty sure I should make it to D4 or D5. Afk till then. Doesn't afk. Totes lynch. (this is a joke btw) Rsoul, I have been told, that in order to understand if someone is scum, you must be in their shoes! I don't think she has shioes, maybe bear claws, but not shoes. She kinda jumped on the Kuru wagon a bit early. But i guess it looks fine from a read progression view. One thing i do not like however, is that she just seems ready to lynch everyone and everything. "look at this from Tumble" "Oh look at thiiiiiissssss from Rik ^^ Double 360 no shoot" "Oh look fake anger, vote vote vote! *flicks finger*" She also has what appears to be a cultiness ability on LS. Idk anything about her town playstyle. In devil she was more focused (aka on me) on one target. So maybe that would make her town? Just find it weird that she has so many posts pushing so many people. | ||
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On March 26 2016 03:10 Tumblewood wrote: @Shape There's nothing I can point to and say, "this is why I find SL scummy/townie," except for his vote on gumshoe, which I find a little scummy. I'm not confident in judging his alignment, especially because of what I know of his D1s (acting in a way that will get certain reactions so he can find scum?), so I'm not voting him. This prob. makes you town, as scum !tumble could of invented something to have a scum read to fall in line. You also kinda meet what i was looking for (I think Sl might be scummy because of ... and vote on gum) You have town read everyone though b/4 as scum. Idk, you starting to feel more like Town!Tumble i know. | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote: Good morning. Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky. Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending. I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked. As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean. Ritoky probably is in fact VT. Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. On March 25 2016 05:16 Tubesock wrote: Shapes moved up my list. Also to clarify my earlier list had Jat and Rels just below Vivax. Probably should have used colons or something to make it more clear. Shape, can you elaborate on either/both of Superbia and Kurumi? On March 26 2016 00:11 Tubesock wrote: Concerning Ritoky. I may have fell for the ole caps lock trick. I felt he was sincere, but I do know he's a good liar and not at all above doing something like this as mafia. Hmm. I agree with too much of Tumble's stuff (aside from Rels/Kurumi reads) so I can't vote him. I don't neccessarily think Rels is mafia just that he's null to me. Same with SL and LS and to some extent Rso. Mostly I don't bother trying to read them till later in the game (SL, LS, Rso). Anyway, Going to work, voting Kurumi. On March 25 2016 07:39 Tubesock wrote: Same same. You earlier town read Sicklucker. Can you elaborate? Maybe Obi also. I guess in one of your last lists you had SL above Vivax who fell for town reads (you didn't like his reads?) and then Obi as mid tier town. Anyway, taking away the blue hunting I think Ritoky is town. And I do believe him about his plan. This isn't to say I trust him, but he's not going to be on the D1 lynch list. I like the Sandroba plynch. ##Vote: Sandroba Using these as guides + Show Spoiler [read list from tube] + Town Super Vivax Jat Slam Damdred (lean) Shape? Tumble? (would not lynch) Null Rels: (what you read this guy as town b/4, now can't get a read on him?) Rsoul LS SL KOshi Scum: Sand (based off of Plynch) Maybe Rik Kuru So Rels moved from Town to Null for no obv reason. Perhaps thought it over off screen. Has 2 scum reads (P lynchs are different IMO, you don't actually have to find the person scummy to Plynch them) Plynch was also a bit weird. | ||
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On March 26 2016 04:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why do people not trust rso, exactly? Look at her filter, it is really nothing other than scum reads. And it not that but how she does with them. She Doesn't follow them up minus a few (and those few she usually scum reads) I mean a good chunk of her posts are just "Hey this person his scum of this, And while you think about that Y is scummy, Ohhh you know what i always wanted? Z's scummyiness ^^" And even though it was different in Devil, Devil was different since all i did was trip over myself and made myself more scummy. She blantly just scumming everyone she can get away with. I think she is a better lynch then Tube. Like i understand some of the points on the tube wagon, but it also could be hes town and he was investigating his top scum read more than others. His defenses and some of his read progression is terrible or unexplained but i would rather lynch Rsoul than him. Unless i being a crazy payaso. On March 26 2016 04:30 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote tubesock voting tubesock because rsoultin is the worst lynch I ever saw in my life. Not kidding. I am puking. ![[image loading]](http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Vomit.gif) | ||
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On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote: Guys who should I vote and why? You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why? | ||
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On March 26 2016 05:44 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked. Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching? Anything other than nulls or townreads? | ||
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On March 26 2016 05:57 LightningStrike wrote: Maybe Tubesock? Idk man I don't want to lynch Tina atm >.< To many inactives in the game some might be scum some might be town just wish they would post more for us to figure out their alignment On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote: List of Town that I got from my filter: Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him. Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game. JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart. Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him. Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows. Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone. Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent? Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role. List of Null: Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post. sicklucker: Rip ability to read him. roughly 6 of your town reads are "active people" Math states that at least 1 to 2 people. But lets ignore that. LS what from Tubesock do you read as scummy. And if you feel like it, what are your thoughts on tumble/Kuru? | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:03 justanothertownie wrote: The lynch is in less than an hour, yes? Where the fuck is everyone? Especially the two main wagons? Well Tube apperently has not interent serive at work, no clue when work ends for him. Rsoul i am guessing is MIA. As for the rest, idk. | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded. I was just using a 4 player mafia team because a 5 player mafia team was just a tad bit harsh for the point i was making. Perhaps a 4 and 1/2 scum team should suffice no?  Pretty much. Though i think the scum team number should be roughly 4-5 since for m18 it was 4. idk how Mr.PAL-mar balances though. | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:15 justanothertownie wrote: What's the point? Why are you even talking about this? I thought you wanted to reduce the amount of unnecessary spam you produce. Oh yeahhhhhhhhh, i forgot about that. :/ I was talking about this because you typed something about it. IF you are talking about the original post, i want to know what LS thinks about Tube or anyone for that matter that he finds sus. | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:18 LightningStrike wrote: His vote for sandroba rubbed me the wrong way. Like he was looking for a excuse to vote someone. Kuru I have as town I just forgot to include him in the list >.< Tumble null maybe leaning town he seemed like a Newbie as far I can tell based on post count but also he seemed to act like one too but some of his complaining seemed to be townie. How many games have i played? 7 i think? W/e it is tumble has played 1 minus my total games played (I also have played with him in all his games) so 6 for tumble IIRC. Meta says he town. Kuru i can understand. Eh i can understand your tube reasoning. Though overall your read is kinda lackluster on him. What do you think of him with his interaction with Kuru? | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:52 LightningStrike wrote: In this post he responded to kuru saying he should read not skim his post. What? Kuru acussed Tube for skimming, you got it backwords i think? | ||
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On March 26 2016 08:18 LightningStrike wrote: JAT, Superbia, and kuru, plus Koshi. I really hope Tina is town otherwise I will look terrible and might get lynched for defending her. What makes you think we are going to come at you LS with pitchforks and torches just because Rsoul flips scum? Sure, people are prob. going to be lazy and go "Top level associative read, LS is scum with Rsoul." But i feel people like JAT (def), Damdred (he prob. look into it), Me (take this as you want), and a few others will look and not just mob lynch you. Don't know why you are really worrying about it. | ||
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On March 26 2016 09:40 Tumblewood wrote: Hey, just got back, and I'll probably be more active this weekend because I don't have any big Easter plans. Even though rsoul wasn't even there, that lynch scenario makes her feel a lot more townie to me. I think that if it were scum v. town we would have seen a lot more animosity on the wagons than what happened-- the rsoul wagon seemed weirdly comfortable with not getting their lynch through, and no one was really questioning what other wagons would be viable. I still wanted Rsoul over Tube, but i really couldn't deny what people like Rels and others were saying about him. I feel more better about Rsoul over Tube though (which is why i stayed). In hindsight i might of been able to do more but blah. No since in dwindling in the past. But i didn't go screaming after Tube's flip about Rsoul scummyiness either so :/ I kinda want to look at the timing and the swings of votes at that time. I still have probs. with Rsoul's filter, but i will look into the timing of the votes and see if they swung at any point. | ||
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Lets say all claims are true, and that every action happen was legit. That would mean: Kuruvig shoots Koshi and Koshi was saved (1 vig, 1 protection role) Sand (vig cather or whatever it is called) shot Stutter the engi (1 Vig, (that can shoot more than once if I read his claim correct) and 1 Itemgiver) Rsoul Claim ( 1 Itemgiver) Sl claim (vet) Slam shot (dayvig day 1) + Tube being invest role most likely you can also go on record and say that a 9th blue role, doc or jk, would exist if mafia had 2 KP and did not shoot Stutter. Not including since we don't know where the shot landed from mafai So 3 different types of vigs, 2 itemgiver roles (who i am guessing knew each other because stutter giving Rsoul the item is really out of the blue), a protection role that is not a vet, vet, invest role (prob. tracker due to name and so many otehr active blue roles). All supposedly revealed by day 2... (not to mention a 3rd protection role possibility... -.-) Welp, guess i need to start today by looking into the claims more. 3 vigs, 2(3) protection, invest role, 2 itemgivers Vs i am only guessing a pimped out mafia team just seems laughably crazy. | ||
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On March 28 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote: Lol 9 blues sound absurd in a normal nom theme. Anyway aside from claims how about reads shape? ikr? anyways, I need to read some things for reads, but here some off the brain thoughts. I still do not really like Rsoul (4 reasons before), idk though with a itemgiver mason team role apparently. She promises to do stuff tomorrow too. I feel like the way she went around with the Rik case was off (haven't put on my analyze glasses, but riks follow up seems to be correct.) I still find her scummy. I would like to see what she does tomorrow though (b4 voting her) since she claimed something very weird. Koshi feels weird based off some tone things. Also in that last post he had Rsoul as confirm town, though a quick skim in his filter shows that actually lines up with his read progression thou. I remember yesterdayish that LS was very...Passive? With all the "I only have town reads lallalala" and me having to ask him the Who what when where why? questions to get him to vote someone with reasoning. Funny enough i think this is actually town because I think mafia wouldn't do the last thing. Will say that post about being so concern with looking bad after a rsoul flip if she is scum is off. Didn't see a reply, but i could of missed it. TT finillay posted and i had a beatific moment of tinfoil-preflipassocative-idea (though, i think i wait off till if he flips to say so as that will derail the thread more.) Wish he actually read into the claiming but w/e. He was kinda assocative with his reads IMO off of a quick glance. OWS btw i feel is townie due too not only the tad bit of looking at the wagons i did yesterday, but also overall tone. He seems a bit more lad back from Cell but could be explain by work like he posted. JAT found something off about him. But right now i have a town lean on him. | ||
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On March 28 2016 06:56 LightningStrike wrote: 8 in Storm 1 with 18 people in that game 9 in Storm 2 with 21 people if I counted correctly Well i think that eases a bit of the speculation i have, i still am pretty sure mafia has fake claimed some time today. really really off with this mass claiming shenanigans. | ||
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idk understand needless to say how you breaking meta from last game makes you auto lynch this game. I feel like with a broken meta players would look into the content in your posts, and since it is a tad bit lacking, they would assume that that + a portentinal scum burnout from playing scum last game, would = you as scum. I think this is what you meant to get across to me. If so i can understand it since it i just wrote why it would make sense. About blues Well it not so much the claiming (since only 3? was claimed today) as it is the infomation that is out there. Why would Kuru reveal the fact that he shot Koshi? obv you are going to say, "because Koshi didn't Die shape." Well in that action alone, if it is all true, mafia just got information about Kuru and know that their is a doc/jk. Sands claim gives them the infomation that they have to worry about a vig shot now if they ML (if he can shoot mutiple times, which sounds like so based on his role descp he gave) + the claims from Rsoul and SL (while they did not give a lot of information, they still told mafia they are blue. If SL is vet, then it was the right play thou.) And they know that there is a another active protection role if they did not shoot stutter. And they know that Slam Now, isn't that a lot of info magically out there? Yes, worse case we gave them 3 claimed blue roles and leaked 2 roles ifno. IT also seems easy for mafia to fake claim during this shit strom to not only get confirmed but also so spread lies. Hell if there is a 3rd party, they could also participate. TLDR all the info feels like mafia is planting seeds everyone to keep town guessing. Not sure, but that is what it feels like. | ||
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On March 28 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote: I think what I was trying to say was that with me having a broken meta and me defending Tina, I would get auto'd lynched if she flips scum. About blues it's true 3rd party could claim blue and scum could make it a big mess by claiming blue hence why idk which claim would be fake. That was what you said :/, i was trying to understand the logic on why you thought so. idk either about the claims and to how to go about them, I think i dive into that a bit tomorrow and tonight look more at content. since tonight =15 mins :/ Have questions too for: Sand-can u shot more than once? | ||
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On March 28 2016 08:56 sandroba wrote: Nope, only had 1 bullet. *faceplam* This is inrocic because i literally just got done talking about giving mafia info blah blah blah and then i just got sand to reveal he is one shot. I am such a moron well good to know for the future. | ||
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On March 28 2016 09:06 LightningStrike wrote: Last game I broke my meta and people would be more weakly of me and me hard defending Tina would in turn make me a auto lynch because of those reasons. Ok. | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:28 sicklucker wrote: Like if people think im mafia outside of my claim thats fine. But its acualy so fucking stupid that you and vivax are pushing worlds where im scummy because my claim is scummy WHEN THERE IS TWO MISSING MAFIA KP Catching up. Jeez calm down SL. The fact that you are shoving this "Im not mafia because cLAiM! shit is annoying. | ||
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On March 28 2016 18:46 rsoultin wrote: Town to Scum...think i've explained or at least talked about most of these but if i forgot i can address it after some sleep @.@ Damdred* Jat* LS sandy super rit koshi ows shape sl* slam viva tt _________________ va rels _________________ tumble kuru ye prob shouldn't townlean everyone there but whatevs @.@ one lynch at a time Interested how i went from one of her top scum reads to a town/null read. If I am reading this list right. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:37 Shapelog wrote: Interested how i went from one of her top scum reads to a town/null read. If I am reading this list right. Like i went from someone she was fine lynching D1 to ??? to Townlean/town side of null? With no explanation after writing 6 pages of filter since the last time she really mention me? Da fuq? Page 3 of her filter, On March 26 2016 00:26 rsoultin wrote: do you really? should i give you a quiz? there are several things that have been wrong in your posts about me ^^ maybe you should save yourself the humiliation of my pointing it out to you by actually giving enough of a fuck to read the posts of your own scumreads, and go point out your mistakes i'm waaaaiiiiting ^^ Really the last post that i found on a quick skim with her really taking to me. Idk how i went from like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam so every single one of you voting me i want a list of at least two other people you think are scum, and why you're reading ritoky/shape/tumble town (if you even are) And i know she town read rik, but at least she explained it. She just kinda backtracked on me for no reason. Need to look at her filter at her recent posts (The rsoul vs SL posts made it hard to read in thread) when i get time. Still don't like her either. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:46 Vivax wrote: So I'm trying to think if this rsoultin claim is legit, The one invents one receives part is really odd, and I have no idea how much role information scum got from Palmar, but I know that I'd feel really bad lynching a role that might do some good if actually town. So I'm back to the fence now that I'm not so worked up any more. Then I remember the flavour of this game. Some guys are expedition, Kurumi is a soldier, there's an engineer... WTF is a commissar doing in the game? It's like you are in the middle of the desert like in the OP pic with soldiers, engineers and some starving dudes of an expedition and suddenly a police chief shows up "HELLO IM THE COMMISSAR WELCOME TO THE DESERT MAY I HELP YOU CALL 911" ? Nah, it's kinda an odd thing to think about but makes the sandro claim look fake lol. Mission head quarters. Commander: Alright a UFO has landed down on the this earth. the public will not be nofited of this, but the extraction must be swirf and quick. While there, we want you to gather evidence and try to unearth any and al--- Commissar: DA comrade! Tis plan does not have enough comminusiom in it! I suggest you let me lead a batch of the most firetested soldiers the Union has to offer! Commander: You do realize that the USSR is no longer together right? Commissar: Da, why do you think i am signing up for this mission? Commander: Alright........... Anyways we also going to need engineers and scientist to analyze the craft. Mr. Tube will be in charge of forensics and Mr.Stutter will be chief engineer on this mission. Mr Stutter: I can Try to understand the way the craft was bui- Commissar: Are they each going to have weapons? Commander:No..... Commissar: Da, you must put me on this expatiation now comrade. Protection and all. Commander: fuck you So we are in the 1960s and the goverment is the USSR if Sand is actually a Commissar. Good to know. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote: I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile. 1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all. 2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it? 3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would. 4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game. Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated. 1) I played 3 games with a TownRels. His activity was lacking (though idk how easter was on him, shouldn't really matter though i guess) this game. HIs scum hunting is down too. 2) He kinda did that (bold) with tubesock, but it could of just been him looking good for a lynch. Agree 3)+4) i agree with it. Other points that idk if it is revelavent or not: His tone on some of his D1 posts (before going after Tube) was lax and humorous. This post feels off, really off... On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote: WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching Idk I was kinda waiting on Rels but i am getting tried of waiting. Annoying how many people are hard lurking this game. | ||
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On March 29 2016 01:30 Vivax wrote: I chuckled but the situation is serious, why is one a soldier and the other one a russian officer or whatever a commissar is (in german its some sort of police chief). Actually it is not really to inarticulate. A USSR commissar was, according to webster, "a Communist party official assigned to a military unit to teach party principles and policies and to ensure party loyalty" His role involves a ML to shoot so it makes some sense in a weird way... Idk about one being a soldier and one being a commissar though, unless we sent a unit to the UFO craft. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:57 Tumblewood wrote: I couldn't possibly lynch both wagons. I see a high probability of scum v. scum or svt. Scum can thank me for providing an alternative to lynching their scumbuddy. Da fuq? I was town reading Tumble a bit due to me knowing him and him feeling like town tumble, but he literally just claimed to giving mafia a alternative to lynching their scumbuddy... Wtf is even going on anymore... Idk though, i still really want to lynch Rsoul because i find Rsoul the most scummiest out of the 3. I quickly dive filters from the 3 to see after i catch up (dumb powerout). | ||
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idk the fuck really is going on here. But i know that shit like yelling at people won't help us. All your doing is making it easier for mafia to throw distrust into the thread. We do not need a shit/yell fight going on right now, especially with everyone being tense. Sure some people are being stubborn, but i feel people might be getting tilted here and there. And we might also have a scum in the top wagon (with it being close and basically the mass spreading mass chaos in the thread) Koshi was a bit off IIRC with a bit of his tone and his latest posts (from reading from the thread) really do not seem to actually help town much (I am town, fuck you sort of posts) I feel some of the questions rise against him are fair questions. I wish he would answer them a bit more. Rsoul seems interested in adding another fucking wagon to the fray. I feel this is actually scummy because now she is forcing a already slightly tilted town to look at some off wagon. I haven't really look much into what Kuru has done recently (Fucking blackout) but idk if i would, or anyone really would lynch him today. And i feel that she knows that and that is why she brought it up. idk about tumble, hes fumbleing hard here. Feels told me he could be town but his last feel posts are really off. Like in the one i quoted earlier, he fucking admitted to protentically causing a pro-mafia move to happen. Da fuq? I still don't feel certain on his aligment though. Now to dive. Also worth seeing who the main wagons are voting. See if any are survival. | ||
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On March 29 2016 05:52 ritoky wrote: ???????????????????????????? wtf is this post???????? I think he was refering to noir about how Vivax just flamed everyone and that got him lynched. Idk though. That is what pops into mind though. | ||
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I was actually listing all my complaints like Martian Luther. It is a way of scum hunting for me lol. Prob. won't vote for tumble because A) he is a easy wagon for mafia to push always. B) His early filter follows with how i think of him as town C) Even though i find his last posts weird, it kinda reminds me of devil were i was stepping all over myself in a way. I wouldn't lynch him today. Also @vivax, I got a hour dog. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote: Well yea, I want to wait till last min to vote Koshi. It would look weird if I vote my townread this early. I'd actually preffer to lynch Slam and maybe Kuru, but neither of those are gunna happen. So I'm debating between Tumble and Rsoul. Right now I'm not sure I see Tumble being scum, but I also gave him a pass way too easily last game so I want to get caught up and filter him before I vote. I'm also not sure why you are so tunneled on me, you just think I'm trying to mimic your afk style of scum play? Kus you know, I've seen that work WONDERS for you... What? You are waiting to vote to look more towny? Why the fuck would you do that? Tell me the mind set you have here TT. I find it hard for you to be doing something like this as a town. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everyone piles onto my lynch again... Now I'm paranoid. D: lol I still find Rsoul scummy for the reasons before (her D1 reads, off wagon starter to distract town etc.). Idk even if letting you get a pass today will actually help. like rik said in a earlier post, she (if she really is a engi) has a 50% chance not to even use the item. Not to mention another 25% chance of her not admitting or anything if she is mafia and it works. I personally think she is scum and should be the lynch today. Am i just batshit crazy? | ||
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##Vote: Rsoultin Tumble is ML bait here (and easy one at that) and idk if i want to lynch koshi b/c of this as this seems like something he would do. I will admit it is a bit off, but i feel like it not too bad + plus some other stuff. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote: Why is tumble ml bait? Answer me that why he just isn't scummy? He always is fucking ML bait due to his low post county (6 games played on Tl, roughly 250 posts in total, so about 41 posts per game and he usually is alive at least till D3) His low post count really just makes it easy. Plus i feel like he is tripping like how i did in devil. Plus his case on me. Why would scum delete a case like that? They would of still posted it and see if it gets traction. While i admit the pro-mafia move confession is a bit weird, i feel like this is the town tumble i know. Hope to god i didn't get pocketed but w/e. | ||
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Literally said he would wait to seem more towny in that post about voting koshi. Might be able to read him betterish later on, but TT seems different. Though i never seen a VT TT so idk. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote: She claimed engineer and breadcrumbed in her opening post and her talk with slam asking him if he was her buddy, Why would that even make sense? I just thought of that. Someone, who you think is suppose to be your engi buddy and is the one who MAKES the item, has a gun and shot? Actually i might stand corrected if that is before the shot. I can't IIRC about it. | ||
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Literally just said you might be scum coasting by and here you are appearently lurking. I guess i stubbornly give up a day to see this claim from rsoul out. Voting TT | ||
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i think this is the first time as town, other than nut where i tracked TT to a death, that i actually really feel certain someone will flip red. More so even then Rsoul this game. Also sorry, that Ahahaha was uncalled for. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:57 Tictock wrote: Nah, I've read the game and shared my thoughts. Not like you guys even have a case on me or anything, just attacking me kus I'm underwhelming. Your coasting. 99.99% sure now. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:59 Vivax wrote: Shape, your vote on TT please. I did | ||
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Hold on let me get my victory gif out.... ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/QBjH0bEtlZheg/giphy.gif) | ||
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#swag. Anyways, going to now look a bit into TT filter and see some stuff and follow up on tinfoil idea. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote: Humm, this makes me thing Rsoul is town. Making an effort to start a new wagon (and on someone who I also think is scum) when she is in real danger of being lynched here. Much easier for scum!Rsoul to go, "Yea that koshi/tumble fellow sure is off, lets lynch him" Fuck it, I think her claim is good and now I'm starting to consider her town for other reasons. Koshi is still a terrible lynch, I'm gunna vote Tumble. Never explains Koshi reasoning i think funny enough. | ||
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Then i agree with people with the likelyhood of scum having that. Plus, TT's role wasn't flavored in a way i would expect a CPR to be flavored, but this is WIFOM kind of stuff so meh. | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:49 Vivax wrote: Im pretty sure koshi is town just for the fact he hasnt given up and the turn of events clearly piked his interest. Whereas superbia and rsoultin more or less hrmpfd and fucked off. idk about that, i feel like there is more too that than that. Though them fucking off is also strange. idk Koshi got pretty lazy last game and he was blue. | ||
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On March 28 2016 13:41 Tictock wrote: Wtf is this? Also excuses and apologies... Could lynch Torn between Slam and Kuru, Sand seems so towny and his claim was upfront and simple. Though it might be quick to call it though. | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote: Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood like these were some pretty sick panic votes. maybe it was mafia/mafia/mafia/mafia wagon lolz you never know Sadly, about 3 of those you can (badly) associative read together as a mafia team lol. Catching up, thought of something last night about SL and want to read the post from TT about waiting to vote koshi last min to look townie. Would think it was a QT slip if it wasn't so long. | ||
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Now that i have your attention, i want to say something. I do not find the claim to heal koshi really legit (I.E i do not understand it. If someone wants to explain it to me they can.), but i have a prob. with calling koshi town yet based off this one post from TT. On March 29 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote: Well yea, I want to wait till last min to vote Koshi. It would look weird if I vote my townread this early. I'd actually preffer to lynch Slam and maybe Kuru, but neither of those are gunna happen. So I'm debating between Tumble and Rsoul. Right now I'm not sure I see Tumble being scum, but I also gave him a pass way too easily last game so I want to get caught up and filter him before I vote. I'm also not sure why you are so tunneled on me, you just think I'm trying to mimic your afk style of scum play? Kus you know, I've seen that work WONDERS for you... In this post, scum TT says he will most likely vote Koshi, at hammer time. This is bullshit if you actually consider the fact that TT was calling the Koshi wagon shit. Just moments later. On March 29 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote: Humm, this makes me thing Rsoul is town. Making an effort to start a new wagon (and on someone who I also think is scum) when she is in real danger of being lynched here. Much easier for scum!Rsoul to go, "Yea that koshi/tumble fellow sure is off, lets lynch him" Fuck it, I think her claim is good and now I'm starting to consider her town for other reasons. Koshi is still a terrible lynch, I'm gunna vote Tumble. The wagons at that time 4 koshi/4 rsoul/4 tumble. TT casted his vote AFTER Vivax unvoted (and voted tumble.) I voted rsoul and the wagons looked like this (minus the [s]'s). Tumblewood (6): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, Tictock Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood rsoultin (4): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog So my problem with Koshi is the fact that Scum TT was all ready to basically bus him last minute if necessary, but when the wagons started to favor Tumble, TT voted tumble. Thus helping koshi to live through the lynching. It also does not make sense for TT to say that the Koshi lynch is garbage, and then the next post say he would vote the koshi wagon last min. That post from TT just doesn't make sense at all. I prob. look at SL -> Koshi filters next. See if i find anything wrong with koshi by himself (since i like looking at everything) I remember someone said something about wanting to keep TT alive D1 because if he was town he is a good player and that seems a bit fishy now that he flip. Though i can't remember who said it. | ||
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Anyways, That really is my only complaint so far with Koshi from TT filter. The doc/vig (or doc claim before lynch) thing seems risky for mafia to do. Not out of the question, but i do not find it really concrete. It seems like a questionable play, both ways of the coin. | ||
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On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote: TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic. I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD. Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night. Last mafia can also be shape or Rels. That could actually be the case tbh. Mainly just because the post itself seems super weird. I still find it weird though from a read progression point of view but maybe i am not taking into consideration of something like this. Eh, i think i am just going to move on from it for now and read filters. Class is about to come up though so idk when i get to post anything about it. | ||
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On March 29 2016 22:46 Koshi wrote: So you are saying that TT saved me over tumble right? So it is EXTREMELY unlikely tumble and TT are mafia together? I think it is weird how he went from Rsoul claim looks legit, -> "koshi wagon bad, tumble is bad, rsoul my vote" -> "will vote koshi last min." -> ""i think rsoul is a bit townie, won't lynch. Koshi wagon bad, Rsoul bad, Tumbe has my vote" I think that is the order of his lynch progression. Actually when i look at that, his progression on tumble looks slightly weird as well (Bad, good, lynch) Actually they all look weird. Only one i can maybe understand is the Rsoul one. I think Tumble is still town though just because of my reasons before. (Tone, being lynchbait wagon, etc.) But I actually not sure if the point i made before is valid now just looking how much TT actaully changed his mind on his vote. That post from him holding off still feels off in my mind though. But it might of been just mafia WIFOM shit. | ||
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i think rsoul is a bit townie, -> "koshi wagon bad, tumble is bad, rsoul my vote" -> "will vote koshi last min." -> ""Rsoul claim looks legit actaully, won't lynch. Koshi wagon bad, Rsoul bad, Tumbe has my vote" | ||
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On March 29 2016 23:07 Koshi wrote: What is this emoticon? rsoultin used it in every post going into the lynch. Even after the lynch. lol really? i did not notice that lol. >_< for me means that i am annoyed at something. For example (in that post), i was annoyied that i fucked up the progression after spending 5 mins or so trying to get it right the 1st time. idk what Rsoul uses it for, but it is prob. the same thing if it was around a lynch i guess. Depends on the post. | ||
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On March 29 2016 23:20 Koshi wrote: 100% town. I don't even understand how you think she is a little bit suspicious. I think she is scum because of how day 1 she litterly just scum read everyone for little or no reasoning and when she did give reasoning it was a bit lackluster IMO. She also is trolling us IMO with her role at this point. On March 29 2016 07:30 rsoultin wrote: yup, he invents i receive and no i haven't got a response yet -_- On March 29 2016 07:39 rsoultin wrote: mhm lol...think it's best to just afk this phase actually On March 29 2016 10:14 rsoultin wrote: ye i'm around lol it worked or maybe it didn't? just carry on ^^ I guess i have to now wait till day time to see anything about a item too. Idk maybe i am tunneled vision. But she really does seem scummy as hell to me. | ||
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On October 13 2015 09:06 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote ObviousOne] just for tiebreak reasons to save moosy im not sure yet which is what he did this game as well. Thought it was interesting since if IIRC someone posted something about it a while back. Thing that is bugging me from XV to this game is how he approach someone sus. D1, most notably Gumdrop in XV. Editers note: this became much more than a filter compersion. On October 11 2015 06:00 sicklucker wrote: I agreed this opening was scummy like who apologizes for being a few hours late? hell im 11 hours "late" NO FUCKS GIVEN scummy eversince kinda hada bad reaction to to vivax angle shoot where he literately mmade it look like he shot him (that was dirty asfaik) seems in too cheerful of a mood eversince what alignment did you want to play? Onegu town ( still would prop lynch him tho) Moosy town since when? scummy On October 11 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote: ##vote Gumdrop no follow follow up posts in two hours meh In XV he waited for 2 hours to see if Gum posted any follow up posts. He wanted to see Gumdrops reaction and his respond to it. I.E. He found someone scummy, and wanted to see more posts from them (this is where i am trying to get at) Now look at how he Handles Gumshow: On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote: I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote. On March 24 2016 08:00 sicklucker wrote: sure why not On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote: I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! So he has his reason right? But when gumshow starts posting and stuff he does not look and comment on them. Despite being in the thread for sometime. Even took the time to go after LS instead of listing and responding to Gumshow (as far as we know.) Then when someone comments about his read on Gumshow: On March 24 2016 12:12 sicklucker wrote: i found him pretty scummy because he choose to focus on slam. I think thats very scummy. I have played like 20 games with slam and stopped trying to figure him out in like the second one. He claimed to have played with him quite a bit. Also it was like 1 hour in and i like da presure! His scum read was the same. Gumshow had posted much more than that at that time and he should have had something else (a comment or anything) if he was paying attention to the thread right? And pressure? How can you be pressure voting someone if you do not even respond to or even show that you are following their posts? it just doesn't line up. Not only that, he ignore Gumshow further after that point as well. Guess what the next post that mention Gum was... On March 25 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote: oh someones dead rip. That was a pretty early shot who took it So SL really did not care at all for his read on Gum. He infact just went after LS (but never voted LS) Why do i meation this? because it is also different from XV. On October 11 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote: ##vote ##vivax On October 11 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote: i thought that was in crossfire mafia? w/e ##unvote #vote vivax I really do think hes scum here. like hes not saying why im not reading the thread hes just putting scum on me for no reason with no reason. He was willing to change his vote at the slightest change in wind. Hell really the reasoning wasn't cocreate in that game. Someone rub him the wrong way and it made him sus. so vote. I Will say that SL seemed slightly disinterested in XV about Gumdrop but might be because he was interested on voting vivax. Still was a difference thou. in my mind. So either,
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Because you died N1. So i compared your D1s. Other than that i found your filter fine. Even saw a how you tie your votes. On March 30 2016 04:48 sicklucker wrote: i opened up with gumdrop posts in both gmes thats hillarious. But the situition is not the same so I kind of stoped reading your post after that because the angel your going for is dumb atho townie as hell. IN game 1 I initiated it. in game 2 I was not the one who started it but simply voted because its a really easy thing to do to apply presure. + Show Spoiler [SL racist!] + Ah so you are racist huh? you find it fucking funny to bully Gum named people? WHAT DID GUM EVER DO TO YOU HUH HUH!?!?!?! Yeah, maybe that one time it almost killed you because you were choking on it, but that is your fcuking fault. Not gums. SL is racist 100% confirmed. All jokes aside, I still find it hard you wanted to apply pressure and never followed up. | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:00 sicklucker wrote: also I didnt even really scumread gumdrop this game. I just felt like randomly voting him for pressure to start discussion the other game I probably believed it which is why I did more with it. Like holy crap shapelog you have to think about the whole game not just one random piece of useless information. Dropping knowledge here Wait are Gumdrop and GumShoe the same person? Thought they were distant cousins at best. Like this is the problum i have with the pressure thing. You pressure vote. He posts Damdred asks you why do you think he is scum a hourish later You say same reasons Bugger off Oh he flipped. Like your reasoning did not change at all when Damdred asked you why you were currently scum reading him. That is the part i hate with the progression. | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:07 sicklucker wrote: you guys are ungreatful swine for calling me scum when I stopped mafia kp 99% of the time .Basicly your all terrible koshi level really ![[image loading]](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/4744798-0338549220-tumbl.gif) Like first off, we do not know if you blocked it, so stop saying we should TR you because you think you fucking blocked a shot. Maybe you did, or maybe you didn't idk. But just because you claimed something does not mean you should get insta town read for it. Especially when we do not even know who was shot that night or if you were indeed shot. Like the level you are trying to stick this down our throats is over the thresh hole of reason. We get it, you think you blocked a shot, you don't have to remind us every 2 secs and especially when someone is sus. of you. And you are not achiving anything by it either. No one is going to go "Oh he keeps saying he blocked a shot, obv vet." i don't even understand how it is productive. All you had to do was say your reasoning on why you thought my point was wrong. Yet, even when it has nothing to do with your claim, you throw the shot excuse into the discussion. It is almost as bad as Rel's "I am confirm town because i wouldn't be that dumb" idea last game. it could be right, but there is no way of confirming it. But at last i am not going to get into a shit fight with you SL because i prob. get pissed and spam the thread into a pointless discussion with you. Maybe i was wrong with a few things in that post, but it still seems off for a pressure vote and this "TR for BULLET SHEILD" crap is getting old. Well, that was my anger reducing moment of the day. I prob. going to look at super and Sand now becuase Koshi and Rels (?) was talking about them and i haven't really look at their filter's in a while. | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:18 sicklucker wrote: my reasons were posted I forget what they were because they were probably made up. you just missed them but I know I posted them It was Kuru instead of Damdred btw. My fault. But this is litterally your reasoning for voting him SL. On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote: I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! On March 24 2016 12:12 sicklucker wrote: i found him pretty scummy because he choose to focus on slam. I think thats very scummy. I have played like 20 games with slam and stopped trying to figure him out in like the second one. He claimed to have played with him quite a bit. Also it was like 1 hour in and i like da presure! I am not saying you didn't have a reason, I am saying you didn't change anything about it which should happen because you wanted to pressure vote him and see what happens. There was no visable follow up or comment on a gum post or read afterwards till he died. You basically ignore him and that is why i was sus, But for realizes time for me to actually read filters. | ||
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Yeah it was (you should know Mr. IAmCurrentlyReadingShapelogsMafiaFilter,StrachThatIAmLazy (this is from Cell btw) but i wasn't getting at him being scum. More so on how in that game i spammed like the dickiens and joked 24/7 minus the times i spent making cases. I am still reading Super's filter too btw. | ||
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Oh Thought you were going to try to discuss with me about comparing filters or something along those lines. | ||
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On March 26 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote: At least I'm just flipping VT tonight and I can brag in the obs chat about my ~75% (probably) accurate reads. Does anyone recall if he ever xplain this? I can't find it in his filter so far. | ||
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On March 30 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote: Does anyone recall if he ever xplain this? I can't find it in his filter so far. | ||
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On March 30 2016 00:06 Superbia wrote: I had no strong opinion on TT so I wasn't going to vote on TT. He was just as likely to flip something else in my eyes. Besides, both active wagons (excepting rso) were absolutely fine in my eyes, both were my top 2 scum at the time. Why would I switch or be interested? O rly? On March 28 2016 22:37 Superbia wrote: I would lynch into: - Koshi - Tumblewood - Rels - VA - TT So said you could lynch him a bit b/4 EoD (after TT read list btw) but did not have strong opionon on him? Maybe because it was due to his lurking, but you still had him down for a lynch (with no real interaction on that i found.) That is weird. Also seemed to attack people after Rsoul claimed, belevieing that breadcrumbs = blue. eh i do not like him as much as i did on D1. | ||
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On March 30 2016 06:54 LightningStrike wrote: But last minute shannies are the best :o Even has it's own theme song "We're going on a trip on our favorite wagon ship. Littleeeee townies, lynching through the days. Little townies." ![[image loading]](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5465/7387436520_bc1d766aa6.jpg) + Show Spoiler + And yes i know that possible scummer could had buss. did it for the song (looks at JAT) | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:11 Superbia wrote: This # of KP is actually kind of confusing. If there is no vig shots then yeah it is pretty off when you compare it from yesterday. Wonder if the vest was actually legit or not. | ||
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YEAH! FUCK THEM ALL RASICT ONE! | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:39 Superbia wrote: I want to know who shot her though. That would make the game even more easy. ^Me too. | ||
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On March 30 2016 06:59 Vivax wrote: Doctor roleblocks, he doesnt heal I think So you are thinking he is hinting at that right with this post? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Would lynch Palmar 10/10 for making a Role name that confusing. Like wowie. | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:52 sandroba wrote: fuck it I'm killing LS. This is random. Why is this random. | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote: The only thing I am bothered with is that we are missing 1 kp during n1. And that is taking into account that sicklucker got shot. hmm. Strange. Maybe another doc? But Doc/Doc/Vet/Vig/Vig/Vig/Cop/Engi is like a shitstorm waiting to happen. | ||
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Maybe i am over thinking this though. | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:58 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly lost all my motivation to play seeing that flip and your stupid as fuck OMGUS on me. Really -_- I'll listen if that will help you. | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:52 sandroba wrote: fuck it I'm killing LS. On March 30 2016 08:03 LightningStrike wrote: Go eat sandroba big ass gun VA. 2 random posts about shooting people with guns doing the Daytime lolwut? | ||
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Take some time off and post your new scum reads or something in a few. You aren't helping town by yelling at them, | ||
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On March 30 2016 08:16 LightningStrike wrote: I just leaving everything up in the air. I just going to just do votes and not talk in the thread at all for the rest of the game. -.- Whats down in RL LS, or is it something with this game? Idk which one, but something has been obv. bothering you while you been playing this game since Mid D1-ish. | ||
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never since him roll over and die though b4. That's new for me. Anyways, I am going to get off (7:30 PM here) and eat dinner and sleep. Read in the morning. | ||
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On March 30 2016 22:17 Rels wrote: Wow WAIT A SECOND. This might be true. AND ACTUALLY THAT IS PROBABLY HIM SLIPPING THAT HE S TOWN DOC Like: Vivax doc - TT Rebel doc Stutters engi - rsoul rebel engi So if we go that way: Sandroba commisionner - Kurumi soldier <= one of them is scum Damdred medic confirmed town unless his counterpart counterclaims SL vet confirmed town 'cause his counterpart didn't claim Slam day vig confirmed town 'cause his counterpart didn't claim Catching up, but the slam day vig does not make anysince because if this theory is true, why wouldn't mafia quickdraw (name for scotts role) shoot D1? | ||
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NVM being dumb. | ||
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The thing that is bothering me is his role powers. He said it was like a nerf TOS vet minus shooting anyone who vists them. And we know he has multiple vests because last night cycle he said he had one (or implied that he had one by saying he wouldn't put up a shield.) so it for sure sounds like the 3 vest TOS vet. My prob. with that is that mafia had no way other than a RB (which kinda fits with the Vivax was RB -> TT was RB) but we have no major way of confirming that other than Vivax's word (which is most likely the case, but we do not know if their roles was = to each other.) So if mafia losses a RB like role, they have to deal with someone who is immune till D4 if they vest each night + 1 confirm Doc/TownRb + a potential normal Doc. That just seems off for me. But this is a tad bit WIFOM and i have filters to read so i move on for right now. | ||
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What was JAT pushing btw before he died? I know that Vivax last thing was about docs and rbing and stuff, but I can't remember what JAT was doing. I am spec. because JAT had some sus. on him (and could possibly be MLed) and it makes him a unlikely hit for mafia meaning that he might been on someone's trail. I remember he was going after Koshi, but other than that i can't remember | ||
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Click on the third page of VA's filter and he was sus. of the same thing about JAT NK. Maybe i missed it, let me skim back a few to see if i did. | ||
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Guessing also that he was sus. of kuru because of the 1st sentence. Hmm i look more into it a bit later when i have time due to I having class in a few after lunch. | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote: I wouldnt really believe what sl says. His claim doesnt make sense in this setup. So there are 3 ways mafia kp can get stopped? Never ever. Yeah i know it doesn't (check my posts about if he is the TOS's nerf vet that would mean he can be immune to at least D4) Just want to see if he says ya or not. | ||
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That said, if there was 2 mafia teams, and they both have 2 KP's, that is 4 Kp's shared bewteen them. Plus Any vigs and shit thrown in. Idk, for me it is a bunch of WIFOMy like things. | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:55 Kurumi wrote: I have a feeling that Mafia is playing a Lurker city type of game so far. VA's post rubbed me totally the wrong way, given that he was in the thread and failed to make any contributions and now he declared he's afk till D2. He did not even vote.... Still don't like sicklucker (gut tells me so, he seems to be apathetic about the game) and Tubesock's gameplay so far has been iffy. Noting that since TT died and was a lurker. | ||
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Mafia mafia mafia. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://images.says.com/processor/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fscreencrush.com%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F08%2Farmyofdarkness-quotes-buckle-up.gif&size=800x%3E) A ride to tinfoil Town that is. I have reason to believe that Kuru is mafia based off TT's filter and how Kuru responded to some things. This is not for the faint of heart, As i just had a stroke of Brilliance! Brilliance I say! First off lets look at this post, i felt that this was a bit off considering how it nailed TT and Rsoul to a extent (on how she played D1) with the inactivity. On March 25 2016 21:55 Kurumi wrote: I have a feeling that Mafia is playing a Lurker city type of game so far. VA's post rubbed me totally the wrong way, given that he was in the thread and failed to make any contributions and now he declared he's afk till D2. He did not even vote.... Still don't like sicklucker (gut tells me so, he seems to be apathetic about the game) and Tubesock's gameplay so far has been iffy. "Alright, so what?" I hear you people asking. He could of just been true and that should be no reason to scum read him shape. Well, i say to you, STFU and wait for the presentation to be over. Ok so that shows that Kuru thinks that lurking people are scummy. Can't get much simpler then that. A idea reinforce via his vote on tube. But guess who else were Lurking at that time, TT. TT was lurking so hard that he didn't even vote. More on that later though because there is another thing i want to look at from D1 first, Rsoul vote on Kuru. On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote: okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol >< really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing ##vote kurumi We know that Rsoul is: A) She was Scum, Why is this important here? Becuase that means as scum and being sus. already, a counter wagon survival vote would of raise red flags for her. She had to find someone else to vote for. Here comes Kuru, her partner, who is in no danger of being lynched that day. So, because of that and because of him posting and being in her mind + she thinking that he would be a safe vote to waste on. Voted him so if she flipped (which was likely going through her mind too btw) Kuru would at least look towny. B) It doesn't add up. Think about it, Kuru wasn't really even a lynch for her. Rsoul was wanting to lynch what, me, tumble rik and someone else and about in that order (rik tumble me.) Random vote on Kuru doesn't make since. So it really feels to me that her vote was a vote trying to get cred for Scum!Kuru. Moving on to N1. The fact that he shot. Why is this relevant you ask? Well first off, STFU like i told you, the presention is not done yet. But here is why. Someone is going to come up to me and say, "But shape what about this vig thing with Kuru. do you blah blah blah" Well I really can not believe i am dumb and miss this. But it does not make sense for Kuru to shoot, AT ALL that night. On March 24 2016 23:02 Kurumi wrote: Oh and hold your KP horses, because hard setups mean lots of KP flying around. Or just any ways for a single player to kill someone else. We have our double lynch D1 alright... So I am to believe that Town!Vigkuru, wanted to shoot Koshi after posting this bit of info about how we need to limit our KP?
It does not make sense at all. Period. He shouldn't have shot if he was actually town here. No way in hell he should. I can not believe we fucking have been talking like idiots about which claim is legit and NO ONE, Even I, Saw this. Wow. Wow. Lets move on to D2. Remember TT and what i said about him? Him lurking and therefore should be a number one candidate for Kuru? Now I ask you, who the fuck did he vote for Day 2 hmm? Koshi. Read this: On March 29 2016 05:08 Kurumi wrote: Okay, so obviously I voted Koshi. I guess no additional comments are needed from me on this topic. I hated the sicklucker/rsoultin exchange and sicklucker spam, jesus christ, what was that? I think JAT, Superbia, Dam, Shape, LS and sandroba are OK. Ticktock has said he believes rso on the basis of crumbs, but has for some reason not seen me crumbing Koshi as someone I want dead since the very first post (also, the rendez-vous part...) so I have no idea what the hell happened there. I have no idea why VA pops in just to propose Tumble as a lynch without pushing him hard enough given the time we have left. OBS is sceptic enough for me to believe he is on the town side. Scum list: Koshi rsoultin ritoky VA/Ticktock Ritoky is too apathetic and my old reasons still are here, as for his question: you'd like to know what happened to my bullet, friend. You'd like to. I believe sandroba's claim, I believe that Slam is Town, rso could be a fifth party planar dragon for all I care. Any questions? On March 29 2016 05:33 Kurumi wrote: I have played a scum game where there was agreed that two players are going to go against each other's throats from the get go. Don't remember which, but I think it had geript it in. It's not unusual for scum to pick two players to have polarizing plays. It is not unusual for the third member to sling some shit at one of them, especially so effortlessly (Koshi). The common thing between my suspects is: - No cases being done - Reasoning weak, wrong or invalid - Bad thread presence - When they have time they waste it on squabbles and pushing reads contrary to everything is happening Tick made no case, says rso is town based on crumbs but misses my crumbs, came late to the thread, has no thread presence, RSO made no cases, bar maybe ritoky, where she says that he is scum because HE BOTCHES HIS OWN PLAN not because the plan is better for scum than for town, she disappeared for D1, not really active now, her vote is on me, AGAIN, rit himself made the shitty plan and then disappeared and made no contributions and now you're here for no cases, for a contrary opinion and instead of pushing it hard, you are here to discuss my scum list somehow not being good enough. Come on. And when the seeds of a Lurkerish lynch (tumble) and ideas of shenngians onto TT arise. What does he say? On March 29 2016 06:28 Kurumi wrote: The fact the guy I shot, losing my bullet, is slowly not getting lynched starts to question my ability to understand human behaviour. WHY? WHY does he have a fucking prob. with the Tumble lynch? Hell why does he have a prob. with any of the lurker wagons is crazy to me becuase it goes against his logic. Hell, He should of been fucking fine with ALL The lynches D2 due to his scum list INCULDING all of them. He should of been "well 2 of them are my mafia team and one is lurkish, i am fine with this lynch and i think we going to strike mafia here." Instead he is against anything other than a KOSHI wagon. That alone is sus. Now lets look at TT. Now look at TT reads. On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote: Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler + Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus; WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter) Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler + #966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny; Feels alot like sandroba from last game ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler + Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch; I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler + The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here. #798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all. Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler + #162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote; So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler + I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game. #137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had? It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler + #278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta #329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler + #181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond? Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things. Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler + I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me. #262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ; I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler + #135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game Hmm, doesn't it seems a tad odd, that Rsoul and Kuru are scum in his book, AND Kuru mentions something about Scum trying to throw shit on one of them? Not only that but TT later on drops his sus. on fucking Rsoul and picks on Kuru.
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On March 31 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote: and if I am allowed to continue the tinfoil. (the above is not tinfoil but actually possible but therefore not the truth, however, I will predict it as the truth and believe it as if God himself would have told me) Maybe there are indeed 2 mafia teams. a "rebel" team and an unknown team, each 3 people strong. The team who lost 2 members for sure don't have kurumi in it. That's why he got pushed SO FUCKING HARD before he even claimed the shot. If I had to guess either Rels or VA is in the other team. Superbia might have bussed. Well I am not completely out of that yet. I wonder if the rebel team got an avenger like Sandroba, and shot 2 townies while the unknown team shot rsoultin. ahhh. pretty cool stuff. Probably fiction. But how cool does it sound? Didn't you read where Kuru laid out how he thinks mafia would do things. They scum read him He scum read them back Rsoul focused on throwing dirt on Kuru while doing things that would lead to him being town once she flipped. Pure brillance. | ||
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On March 31 2016 07:03 Koshi wrote: Oh tumble. tumble is mafia and slipped. That guy actually made 2 fucking mafia teams in 1 post. Holy shit, You may be onto something if these team things are true. Thing is I still think tumble is town, but you could be right. Idk, until we get some hard confirm that Teams are in here, it seems a bit WIFOMy | ||
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On March 31 2016 07:19 ritoky wrote: i don't understand that case. How? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! | ||
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On March 31 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote: Congratz Shapelog. That is the best case I read in 2015 and 2016. I will nominate it later. That is actually a piece of pure brilliance. It has everything. ... why am i getting the vibes that this is a secret attempt to buddy me even though i TR you.... On March 31 2016 07:35 ritoky wrote: re point 1: how exactly does mafia rsoul electing to not vote on her counter-wagon but instead vote on a completely different person equate to kurumi is scum partners? if anything it just shows that rsoul learned 1 of my tactics as scum. i guess she afk'd immediately after rather than push it, but i'll take her word (even as flipped scum) that irl got in the way and made her miss the deadline. so point 1 makes no sense to me because i just don't see how you get from a to b. re point 2: firstly "hold your kp horses" reads more as "get ready everyone, there's about to be tons of kp" more than "ppl shouldn't use their kp. i think you misread. and i believe he had 3 strong mafia reads: me, rsoul, and koshi; and he shot 1...why is this mafia? he shot the person he thought was mafia over a lurker he didn't feel as strongly about, therefore mafia? don't get it either. re point 3: this point is okay, i can somewhat understand it; but i think the more important thing you didn't talk about is that he wants to lynch koshi because he shot koshi, koshi didn't die, and he does not believe koshi was doc saved; which isn't unreasonable (also has it been explained how koshi didn't die?), but then doesn't push incredibly hard for the lynch and then whines when it doesn't materialize. that's the better point imo. re point 4: this one i get the least....that reads more as TT wanting to have kuru as a ML candidate than anything to do with partners. you're gonna have to try and explain that one way more clearly. i mean i know i shouldn't respond to this before kuru, but that case really doesn't make much sense to me at all. 1: She wouldn't want to vote her counter wagon because that would look like a survival vote. Hell ion devil she went after me after i voted for the counterwagon as town so i am sure she knows that it looks sus. Plus, the vote was in her favor at the time IIRC (4 vs 1) so why not get the extra cred for your teammate, which is a easy thing to do when you know/think A) the general population of voters would not vote Kuru due to them townreading him and B) because that push was easy to play and leave at the time. Idk understand why you are trusting a scummers word about it (and in fact i forgot about that and that is even more sus.) at all. 2. I find that hard to believe (and think i read that correctly) since that post was made in responds to the D1 shot from Slam. The idea is that if he was town vig! not only would that post be weird but also contradicting. As for the Target, look at Sand, he was as we know a vig. He had sus. on Rsoul and who did he shoot? a lurker. Kuru should of not only done the same because he said scum was playing the lurking game, but also because (And i just now getting this) that that is the best play for town, to elemate a heavy lurker like TT/Stutter/VA. 3. Yeah, I should of put the last line in as well. 4. TT had Kuru as scum and Koshi as town. Wagons then are 4-4-4 each, TT, who scummed Kuru and Town read Koshi goes "going to wait last min to vote Koshi due to it looking weird for me to vote my earliest town read" And then TT votes for tumble (a person he had as town side of null). He backtracked and was willing to vote Kuru wagon and be the hammer vote if necessary. | ||
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On March 31 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote: It's an energy shield LIKE THIS? ![[image loading]](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/6/6f/Halo_Reach_Elite_Energy_Shield.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100607114554) OR THIS? ![[image loading]](http://www.devilsmmo.com/sites/default/files/uploads/images/firefall/battleframes/firefall-mammoth-06.jpg) HOW HAS THIS NOT STUCKED ANYONE YET? Holy shit SL is a Alien Think about it. If Sand is actually a Commissar that dates this to the 1960s. And if ignore that, it sounds like we are from before we go ham into space travel. We know because we are on a fucking expedition for the GOVERNMENT investigation a UFO CRASH SITE: On March 24 2016 07:11 Palmar wrote: Welcome to Storm Mafia: Day 1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0ZSQYMb.png) Expedition Log: Day 21 We're still investigating the unidentified spaceship. It seems to us beyond all reasonable doubt that this ship extraterrestrial. We mostly do not understand the technology at all. There are no signs of life. The current theory is the ship is entirely robotic in nature. Much more technical detail can be found in the attached science and engineering report. The reason we're logging this instead of transmitting directly to control center is because our communication seems to have cut off since yesterday. We're still unable to determine the cause of the loss of communication but there is no visible sign of a storm like the one that hit the twin cities. Despite the lack of evidence for a storm the decision has been made to turn back for security reasons. As planned a complete loss of communication is reason enough to cancel the expedition. We expect to be back to the border of the sealed off zone in three days. This will be the last log report from the site of the crash. It is now Day 1. Day ends Friday, Mar 25 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) or in I want to remind everyone to not ask questions in the thread and follow the rules. SO WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE FUCKING ENERGY SHIELDS. So SL IS a motherfucking Alien using advance motherfucking Energy shields and claiming so and no one realize that energy shields have not even been invented yet. SL HAS SLIPPED ALIEN Or we are in fucking Halo right now. Jesus chirst i am smart this game. ![[image loading]](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzs1pr4ohs1r6frako1_500.gif) | ||
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On March 28 2016 15:53 sicklucker wrote: I knew ive seen it somewhere. http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Veteran This is basicly my power except I dont kill people who are shoot into my protection .And I have scientist making energy shields flavor On March 30 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote: God plz kill me mafia im dropping the sheild 3rd party too off of that last post as well. I mean litterally, we do not even have fucking force fields yet. We just got to the ship and just got our hands on alien tech. And here is SL, who less then a day, fucking made a working force field. Yeah right. Fucking alien. | ||
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On March 31 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote: Eeeuhm. I was the one who said he was a fucking alien first. Dafuq are you stealing my credit?????????? Oh, well obv. you did not do a good enough job stating that. On March 31 2016 07:01 Koshi wrote: the third team are actually alliens. And the forensic expert could see if somebody was killed by rebels or alliens. Should of stated that he was in your fansty alien soccer team, Now i picked him so you can't now. No backies. + Show Spoiler [Read this Koshi] + Good job then, i just forgot about it prob. | ||
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On March 31 2016 09:17 sicklucker wrote: Shapelog lets just forget for a second that you used terrible unconfirmed logic (sandro could be lying) to use useless flavor to think im an alien which is also flavor (also the flavor mentions robots not aliens) Your not even considering that completely lying about my role is completely in my town play book to wifmo mafia. like do I really have 3 shields? probably not that would be pretty clever to lie about dont you think? Maybe I had to lie about my flavor as well to fit my powers. maybe im jsut a soilder? im not going to confirm or denie any of this but its a stupid thing to think like why the fuck would I ever tell mafia my complete role Still going to go XCOM on you and call you a alien. ![[image loading]](http://www.matchstickeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/XCOM-Thin-Man.jpg) And yeah it is not great logic, but by your own standards, your fucking over us by making you think that you are a vet and that you stopped a KP. Sounds 3rdpartyish move. | ||
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On March 31 2016 12:43 sicklucker wrote: I actually think there is a small chance hes lying here to throw us off.. A small chance.. I think the tell is when he claimed mafia. idk let me read all he has to say, but i feel shaky even trusting a single damm word coming from him. | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:16 Rels wrote: Making it look like he crumbled under the pressure of an amazing case so the author of said case have massive towncred but is actually his partner. /tinfoil (= haha, god that would be amazing if i set that up. Can't wait till i role scum again because XIX was fun as shit as scum. good times, good times from XIX But back to this game. Kuru is acting cocky as hell, and that in itself is weird (at page 195). So either he has something that he is enjoying, or he is actually hiding something/trolling us with WIFOM. At least that what i am feeling. | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:41 Kurumi wrote: I don't want the other team to win, I'd rather be defeated by Town than to be the worse Mafia team  Well considering you fucking claimed scum idk how you can be "better" then the other team. So that is really not a reason here. | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:49 Koshi wrote: lol Kurumi ignore Rels. He is French. So about this 3p guy. Does his name start with an S? I mean, Like i am part french. I am also part native american. Bit of polish. Maybe 1% Spanish. | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:57 Rels wrote: He's jaleous 'cause Belgium is like France but worse. ![[image loading]](http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn445/Azooka/Gifs/OHHHH.gif) Shots fired. Funny enough you said "is like France but worst" so i am more to argue that Belgium can use better Grammar than you. Which is sad because I would support my inheritance of cultural history. | ||
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On March 31 2016 23:20 Shapelog wrote: Eh i need to look at tumble again. Has he even posted this cycle? He has. | ||
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On March 22 2016 12:57 ritoky wrote: pre-game excuse: gonna do my best koshi impression and try to only post like 10 times per phase, but then after ~40 hours get really pissed off and just spam like normal. Failed IMO. At least i followed mine. | ||
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On April 01 2016 03:12 Kurumi wrote: Do numbers exist in reality or are they mere mind-constructs? In this case, it exists. In your case, it does not. In the Hosts case, numbers are balacing tools. In the other players case, 3 + 7 / 10 = 2. ... Do you know what the number 2 and a fertilizer bag have in common? | ||
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On April 01 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote: I kinda expected Shape to comment on Koshi saying his ridiculous setup/role spec is correct and smart. The setup tinfoiling is stupid right now-- no one's even flipped as anything but rebel and town. We probably don't even know all of the blue roles yet, why would we know the scum / 3p roles? Let me have my aliens. Let me have my alien SL. | ||
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On April 01 2016 03:45 Kurumi wrote: btw guys I am going to flip town I mean, kind of This goes against where you say you aren't "playing your toll meta and therefore won't dissect the bullet to try to get another one." Actually everything goes against that so another contraction. You really are good at those aren't you? | ||
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On April 01 2016 05:50 sicklucker wrote: just got my yelawolf tickets this thread cant possibly make me mad. Easy mafia lynch claiming for no reason too here i go I am jelly. The Alien/robot thingy gets better fucking things then me -_- | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote: so im mafia with kurimi so im going ot let people know about are plan and put the idea in your heads that im lying? and im with rstoulin? Ya ok bud insert tinfoil hat gif No i didn't call you mafia i was calling kuru mafia and said the tell to not trust him is when he claimed scum. I am calling you a 3rd party Robot/alien thingy with my tinfoil hat. | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote: Even if theres only one mafia team this game acualy feels like that PYP game. Koshi yelling at me the whole time trying to lynch me when everyone knows im town. Rels playing good mafia . super being my best allie. Oh god this is actually PYP mafia again /replace kinda hated that i didn't /in but i couldn't due toRL | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:43 scott31337 wrote: I haven't seen a whole lot to go on - ie. beyond Kurumi - not a whole lot else has changed for me. Ritoky/Rels/LS are my top picks I'm leaning Koshi more town now than 3rd party Shapelog's been awfully right this game so far... I know... Its scary to me. | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:54 Kurumi wrote: Ya'll should switch to sicklucker off me, 'cos I am not scum. I just wanted your attention. I swear to god... Just die. | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:13 LightningStrike wrote: also I been mafia siding very hard this game sigh. Did I turn into a really shit player after a while? Remember me in Nut lol. TT as top town read. Tube as a lean. Pushed a case for them. and i was fucking blue, | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:27 Koshi wrote: And everybody has a better vote record than I have. Lol. Anyways. going to write a paper for school then come back either tonight or in the morning. | ||
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On March 31 2016 13:03 Kurumi wrote: Also, sicklucker, why have you not voted me? Are you afraid of someone who could make it all in vain? On March 31 2016 13:06 Kurumi wrote: You should all unvote me and kill someone else I survive the night, I spill some beans and you're all good. How about that? On March 31 2016 13:49 Kurumi wrote: Well, I am obv not gonna let myself die if thats what you getting at + Show Spoiler + On March 31 2016 13:59 Kurumi wrote: It doesn't matter who you want to lynch, it's my responsibility to lynch those, who deserve the gallows! On March 31 2016 21:11 Kurumi wrote: Yeah I like killing sicklucker. On March 31 2016 21:12 Kurumi wrote: How about today? On April 01 2016 06:10 Kurumi wrote: Sicklucker, don't brood too much on Superbia's idea, it might give bad results!!! On April 01 2016 06:54 Kurumi wrote: Ya'll should switch to sicklucker off me, 'cos I am not scum. I just wanted your attention. On April 01 2016 06:57 Kurumi wrote: You really should kill sicklucker. Trust me. Kinda odd how he has a focused/vendetta(?) towards SL. It went from "Kill anyone but me heheheheh" to "Kill SL, hehe" Hmmm. No other person really came that close to how much attention he shown on SL. Kuru wanted/has something from SL, more than anyone else. I mean he claims scum, and then spends time making comments about SL. But why? I know this is obv. but Kuru obv. had a hidden agenda to push. No way a fucking scum claims and dies and is the last of his kin. no way in hell. So what is the agenda? And why is he making comments about SL all the time when he claims? I mean compare the quotes above to what he said about someone like Tumble after he claims. On March 31 2016 11:21 Kurumi wrote: You can ask me directly, Tumblewood, the Castaway.  On April 01 2016 03:32 Kurumi wrote: Sure it is weird, you have done pretty much nothing. Don't worry, you are not the only one! 2 vs 10 or so. Whatever Kuru secret agenda was, it involved SL. So if we can solve how the agenda and SL are connected, i feel like we can solve this game. The things that come to my mind are:
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On April 01 2016 23:19 Koshi wrote: better to use posts from before he started trolling though. :/ now it is100% wifom. Yeah ik, just something that i saw after the claim that was weird IMO. Later today i look back through his filter and see if anything stands out. | ||
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On April 02 2016 04:22 Koshi wrote: pinkie promise. You know you reached the top tier of Mafia games when players are Pinkie promising. | ||
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On April 02 2016 04:20 ritoky wrote: pretty sure rels confirmed me as town with his case thanks budYou know I was waiting for your respond to his case and i was going to look at it and deeply consider your alignment. Then you do this shit. Like you responded to my case on Kuru much more better than this. | ||
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On April 02 2016 05:25 ritoky wrote: it doesn't matter that much though cuz i got a plan for tomorrow that i hope doesn't get fucked up. Are you going to angle shoot the mafia members? Cuz I do not think that would work. | ||
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Been awhile since i done a read list. Kinda lazy right now so. Half ass read list that i cba to filter dive to refresh my mind on people. The people I trust: I trust damdred because it makes sense for Town to actually have a normal doc blah blah blah. sand looks pretty nice to tbh So i trust him, his claim also makes sense. Outside of that, his play seems fine (I am half arseing this one) Slam/Scott, Weird role, Slam claimed it so i think it is pretty townie role. Koshi?: I feel, like he is trying to buddy me. that said he seems like normal Koshi which I've not yet seen fail. Also picked up steam when theoretically mafia should of been sadden by lost of TT doc. Tumble (very weak): I "Trust" tumble as in i think he is town. Most of this comes from a meta point of view and the Day 2 lynches. He has dropped off though a heavy bit. i would like to see him increase activity but that is just the type of player tumble is. If at any point another team comes into play, look at him. Everyone else I am kinda meh on and will need to look at (If i do not for some reason die tonight) | ||
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On April 02 2016 06:14 Superbia wrote: I checked shapelog last night: mafia. Well this contradicts my role PM and the fact that TS flipped a investy role | ||
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On April 02 2016 06:26 Superbia wrote: Such a dank april fools joke. I have fallen for the Bibbybit, SC2 AI, And IdrA dying threads all today. On TL alone. Fun fact, My dads parents got married on this day. | ||
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On April 04 2016 00:40 LightningStrike wrote: I already have him in my anti-town list I probably will vote with you. I also forgot about Shapelog being in the game T_T Probably town because during the afk lynch of Kurumi he was trying to make sense of everything. Don't do it again! I'm narcissistic | ||
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On April 04 2016 02:15 Damdred wrote: Honestly I'd rather just tr super for filter length and for being a dick for no reason. Would you be interested in buying my scum filter from XIX? 30 pages? lol. Anyways, Idk about a super lynch today, i need to reread his filter, but there are some things i semi like. Though i won't lie that OMGUS type respond last page kinda killed my townie vibes from him (also lazyiness) | ||
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On April 04 2016 03:16 Damdred wrote: Shape opinions? Currently reading Super's and tumble's filters. with the 3 KP, i kinda am getting more sus. of tumble plus i feel like he should be doing more than what he has done so far. this cycle has been 1 post about why VA is scum (or counter to Rik claim of VA being town) and 1 post defending himself. On April 02 2016 14:46 Tumblewood wrote: 1. and 2. Both things I just thought were funny. I was not trying to apply pressure, nor was I scared (if I were scared, I would actually justify my absence). 3. Scum because bad reads? In hindsight, yeah, there were some pretty bad ones in there. 4. Here's a neat trick I learned for this one: Try to imagine what someone else might be thinking. I think that someone else could have reasonably considered some of my posts scummy. IMAGINE THAT The bolded also rubbed me wrong. He is overly cocky IMO, moreso than normal. Though, Rik's points 1 and 2 i disagree with. the first one feels to me like a joke, and the second one was because i sent out a PSA question to tumble because i needed him to responded to it and he didn't see it over and over. | ||
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On April 04 2016 03:44 Koshi wrote: Lynching tumble is the most retarded thing ever. 2 mafia joined his wagon superlate. And I think I was the counterwagon? Oh well. Maybe they wanted to kill him. Yeah i know. What gives me pause. Only could be scum there if there is 2 teams. I wouldn't mind super but i am being naive and not done reading his filter so... | ||
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On April 04 2016 04:18 Damdred wrote: What I was thinking was that mafia has a rc and they knew tumble was sk/poisoner and wanted him dead still do which is why tumble is in almost everyone's scum list but people are scared to push scum on him. Which is total wifom and conjecture. Feel like that they might of claimed cop to get that lynch. Especially if there really is one team and how kuru and Rsoul claimed. | ||
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I explained mine (I think....) | ||
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On April 04 2016 04:28 Tumblewood wrote: Reads today? Top scum, in order: VA for reasons detailed earlier + several posts since that case that I will pull up I swear Ritoky because his cases suck and there are a ton of flipped town against him Superbia because his filter is 20 pages of nothing at all Tumble i will teach you art of pushing for a lynch. *cough cough* it goes like this: "AHSDIUAGHSUDGAIUWGDUI HES SCUM!!!!" "What the fuck is wrong with you? I am not Scum" "LOOK OMGUS LOOK! SCUM SCUM" "Hey that kid there has a point. Scum" "wtf is wrong with you guys, im town." "Nah your scum, Capslock guy said so." "fuck caps lock guy, i am town i am telling you." [lynch] "...Has flipped town/scum." "OMG LOOK GUYS CONFIM TOWN MEH ON DA SPOOOOOOT" or "You are a dumbass caplock guy, i will be lynching you!" "LOOK OMGUS LOOK! SCUM SCUM" "Hey that kid there has a point. Scum" "wtf is wrong with you guys, im town." | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:20 Superbia wrote: I'm gonna go off a bit of a rant here. Mostly because I want to chill with my gf tonight so I won't be around to play. It's pretty simple: Anyone who wants to lynch me is a fucking idiot. I have fucked confirmed mafia in the ass throughout the game. And possibly fucked a town (Koshi), who has been mafia-siding throughout the game. So you have to believe I am 3rd party. Yet I openly discuss 3rd party KP previous day and was the one who brought it up. Actively promoting the fact that rso was shot by third party to deny kurumi his claim. Which is pretty much the dumbest play ever as 3rd party. Like what would be my plan there? Put me on the map to take down a mafia? Who just got fucked in the ass the previous day/night? nice_play.exe I played a lazy town game. I'm continuing to playing an even lazier towngame. That's it. I want to lynch: - Tumblewood (everyone seems to want to lynch this guy but no one actually seems to want to lynch this guy). - Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason) - VA (meh). - One between: --- Ritoky (maybe 3rd party) --- Koshi (if Ritoky ends up being town/more town, for mafia siding so hard/being so wrong throughout the game) - Maybe lightningstrike (but probably can't). So, you know. Probably follow my reads if you want to win the game as town. Fun fact, Super's second lynch target is a OMGUS because OWS "tunneled onto me for no good reason" | ||
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On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote: 2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible. Why can't that be possible.... Unless... I solve the game. Super is mafia, and there is a second mafia team. The above was a slip, it SHOULD be possible, with 3 kp, and 2 on the medic target, that a second mafia team exists. In fact he lists the reasons on how it could of happen but yet turns around and says it is not possible. Therefore, Super is mafia on a second team. | ||
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There is only one view point where that makes sense at all. It does not make sense as town due to us having limited info. It does not make sense as 3rd party SK due to him knowing weather or not it was a stack or not. It does not make sense as a 3rd party survior or roles like that since he would be in the dark. It does MAKE SENSE as a mafia who sees 3 flipped scum with different flavor text then them. | ||
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On April 04 2016 04:51 Damdred wrote: I think super is the correct lynch Yes it is. | ||
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On April 04 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote: i don't agree with this at all....like wat? the kp suggests 3kp or 2kp + prot bypass. i can understand the case for 2 mafia if you believe 2kp + prot bypass, but 3kp -> 2 mafia? no comprendo. i don't think superbia is an awful lynch though, i haven't touched his filter, but he has been around and not doing a whole lot recently. On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote: 2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible. Ik, and he said that RB was a possiblity. Therefore, he should beleive that second mafia could be possible, even in his mind if it is like .00001% | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:01 Superbia wrote: + Show Spoiler + Look at night actions n1 to see why 2nd mafia team is impossible I don't even know why I came back. Becuz you love us. | ||
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Know why. + Show Spoiler + Your freaking out. I mean you can sit there, yell into the thread. It will not help anyone if you are town or scum for that matter. Instead maybe, maybe, stop calling people dumb, blah blah blah, and relax. | ||
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you got 1 and a half hours, Convince me why i shouldn't vote you and do so in a manner that I can take you serious. Not this stupid "shit players" thing either. Like your happy and free when no one is going after you, yet the moment someone wants to vote you fly off the handle. | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote: Then tell me why I am scum + Show Spoiler + Cuz i am a cop and i checked your ass last night. ... April foolz No there is mutiple things i find wrong with you. First: I find that after D1 and 2 your not so much trying to get town to figure out the major stuff. Sure you have speculated about KP, roles, what you have done, but it really is WIFOM. It is what i would think a mafia member would do to look like they are contributing. I mean the way you were on D1 feels very very different than now. You went from trying to get info, making traps etc. to, well this. You dropped and basically been coasting IMO. Second: I kinda refreshed the page so On April 04 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote: I am not relaxed. I have not been relaxed since EoD1. I feel like town has been made out of donkeys. I am actually extremely annoyed. From the way I see it, I should be on one of the very last spots in the lynch list. Primarily from the fact that when I was active, I have been mainly pressuring and voting mafia. O Rly? Tell me than, if you are so concern about the town being made of "Donkeys" then why the fuck have you spent time talking about MTG (good game) and other shit? Shouldn't you be trying to be a savior of the town? And if you are annoyied, since EoD1 then why have you been shitting jokes like nagging falls? I mean this ties into number one, you see a problem, but instead of fixing it or trying to convert people(?) you just have been sitting back and joking around till someone pokes you. I am claiming mystery role 'y'. Third Your not actually solving the game since Rsoul flipped. And if you are counting your KP discussion, then you should remember that your buddy talking to you about it was IIRC Kuru. The guy who claimed scum. On April 04 2016 01:20 Superbia wrote: I'm gonna go off a bit of a rant here. Mostly because I want to chill with my gf tonight so I won't be around to play. It's pretty simple: Anyone who wants to lynch me is a fucking idiot. I have fucked confirmed mafia in the ass throughout the game. And possibly fucked a town (Koshi), who has been mafia-siding throughout the game. So you have to believe I am 3rd party. Yet I openly discuss 3rd party KP previous day and was the one who brought it up. Actively promoting the fact that rso was shot by third party to deny kurumi his claim. Which is pretty much the dumbest play ever as 3rd party. Like what would be my plan there? Put me on the map to take down a mafia? Who just got fucked in the ass the previous day/night? nice_play.exe I played a lazy town game. I'm continuing to playing an even lazier towngame. That's it. I want to lynch: - Tumblewood (everyone seems to want to lynch this guy but no one actually seems to want to lynch this guy). - Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason) - VA (meh). - One between: --- Ritoky (maybe 3rd party) --- Koshi (if Ritoky ends up being town/more town, for mafia siding so hard/being so wrong throughout the game) - Maybe lightningstrike (but probably can't). So, you know. Probably follow my reads if you want to win the game as town. Ok so page 21, a list of reads. the 1st few paragraphs are defense from you. 2 out of the 3 are omnithought of as lynch targets, minus a person or so that might think different. the one that is not super popular is one based on OMGUS located in the post the next page over. Not only that, but your reasoning to wanting to vote VA in tis post was "meh" to say the least. Your last page of content not revoving around KP discussion or popular thread ideas are this from page 20: On March 31 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote: I have overlapped my current townreads with the votes (underlined = flipped, italics = read): Which leaves me with the following lynches: - VayneAuthority - ObiWanShinobi - LightningStrike - Tumblewood - Kurumi Of these, I do not want to lynch Kurumi today. Some notes: - Sicklucker's vote timing on rso makes it so he's pretty much never with rso. - I had no initial read on shapelog, but his interactions on the rso train d2 are pretty damn town (was adamant on rso, then switched to TT quite naturally). - Koshi's wagon on d2 actually looks almost completely town. Especially if Kurumi (and to an extend TW) ends up being town. This definitely needs some looking into when more flips are known. KEEP THIS IN MIND. I am likely wrong on either someone voting on Koshi or on Koshi. - VA has been voting superearly on scummy people (one confirmed in RSO), but I generally cannot remember the explanation. Could be some soft distance. Would like to know from people who usually play with VA. - I don't think TumbleWood is in the rso/TT team. But I do think he could be independently mafia (3rd party/whatever). - Obi was teaming up with Koshi and Vivax during n2 to pressure me. While Koshi's read has progressed naturally, Obi's pressure is nowhere to be seen. - LS is mainly POE. I don't actually have a good read on him this game. - Sleeper mafia/third party would likely be either Rels or Ritoky. But this is tinfoil for later. Whats actually funny here is that you seemed to forgot the reason why obi looked sus to you in favor for a OMGUS read. Like you could of gone, "ok i find this sus, let me check his filter. Check filter. Here are X, Y, And Z posts that support A" But you didn't you have just degrade into this: - Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason) On April 04 2016 01:44 Superbia wrote: Oh I don't care. You're probably one of them. Your presence has involved siding with a PR on a town (me). Then afking through yesterday (don't even recall what you were doing). Then continuing the push today. Tumblewood is nowhere to be found which indicates he's not interested in the game anymore. Which is pretty shit play if you're one of the last left. Either way he's playing a losing game. But you know, he has to be flipped at some point. like who goes "I think you are scum, but I ain't going to case you." Like you can't even stay on that topic of OWS being scum in that post, you redirect it into tumble. You even frenking contricit yourself by saying tumble's activity would make for a shit mafia play. And that hes got to be flipped. Its not like Rik's or anyone elses who actually have a nice text body on the guy. You basically, again, coasting. [b]Third and a half[b] You slipped sson. On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote: 2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible. Even if you take into account the N1 actions (which really do not matter in the end here) Damdred supposedly stopped a shot on JAT? Sl supposedly stopped a mafia KP? Sand Shot. Kuru carried Kp that got stoped. Even if you did not believe the claim from SL, that is still 2 KP. If you beleive all claims, then it is actually 3. N2, Jat and Vivax died, rsoul died. 2 kp, with something happening with Rsoul dieing either by invention or kp or whatever, Last night. 3 Kp or 2 kp and RB. IT LINES UP unless Jat was not shot by mafia and saved by damdred. So that is a moot defense. But really, you go "Hmmm, here are possible things that could happen that could happen" -> "would mean we have 2 teams" -> "impossible for 2 teams" in one post. Only POV that works in is as a second mafia team. Which means. [spoiler=off topic but important] which means, if you are actually 2nd team, then where in the hell did that shot/rb come from. Obv it was not from your team (yes i am making that assumption.) so somewhere a person rbed or shot at Rels. hmm. [/spoiler] I think your scum because of this. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote: I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/ Da fuq? | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:10 Superbia wrote: I understand that you may be coming off on a high on your kurumi case. But you just gave mafia a reason to vote. =/ Wait wait wait, you haven't read it, annoyied with it. and are going to turn around and say it is wrong and that mafia is going to sheep me. ok,. wait, let me bus this out. ![[image loading]](http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/90362c305d24bea2d97d8dc61462a40f1364598004_full.gif) oops wrong one Eh i find it later. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote: I will say it's possible only two kp happened n2. I don't think it's worth talking about yet and only conjection but possible Yeah ik, but something had to happen to kill Rsoul. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:14 Superbia wrote: Sorry. I understand you expect some great rebutal or some victory for nailing scum, but I poured all my thoughts/energy into my "wall" already. I'm not going to be able to fully respond to your case nor do I really want to. I wanted to go to sleep 15m ago. Dank prank making me explain my sus on you just for you to leave me like that. How could you bae? | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote: Then tell me why I am scum On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote: ^ to shape. On April 04 2016 06:14 Superbia wrote: Sorry. I understand you expect some great rebutal or some victory for nailing scum, but I poured all my thoughts/energy into my "wall" already. I'm not going to be able to fully respond to your case nor do I really want to. I wanted to go to sleep 15m ago. ![[image loading]](https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cj-watson-miss-dunk1.gif) | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:23 Superbia wrote: I think I covered a fair amount in your case in my "wall". I just read it over and here are some general points of rebuttal from what I recall: - n1 wouldn't have been 1 town KP (now confirmed town KP) if there are 2 mafia teams. Ever. - Trailing off is not alignment indicative of me. - I loathe filters and huge posts. I have said this before and will continue saying this. I started off my mafia career checking all filters all the time but have grown more lazy over time. This is mostly due to the fact that my gut-reads are almost always correct. What ends up happening is the following: - I usually recall things from the top of my head, and I don't end up double checking them in thread. The inconsistencies you point out on my read on obi are minor and due to this- The mindset behind it stays the same, but the textual explanation is a little different. - I always have to reverse-logic together why that person is scum to convince town. Usually this is not that hard to do when I have the energy, but when I'm lazy/tired, I just prefer to call them scum. Sometimes with a shitty/lazy reason. Sometimes with none. points 1, 3, 4, 5 were not covered or did not meet shapelog standards. And those are low standards. anyways, Yes ever, theoretically if both SL and Damdred and vivax did their jobs, Kuru carried to koshi and was rbed by vivax, Sl taking a shot, damdred healing Jat who got hit. If all those are true (or even 2/3s), then it IS possible for that senerio to do that. Sadly lost the ability to argue that meta does not matter this game b/c tumble. And your point is fair here. following what? anyways, i do not understand how reading has to do with providing content. If you do have gut reads, you should be like a koshisus and shoved it down peoples throats. It might explain a bit, but you should IMO have more. So it is minor that you went from "Obi is sus. due to this voting thing i found." -> "obi is sus. because he tunneled onto me" -> "Obi is sus. due to OMGUS reasons?" Maybe this is a playstyle choice though so i let it slide. I mean, i also have crazy wackworld convincing methods. And i do not mind it. What i do mind however is if your lazy/tired for multiple cycles and pages of filter. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:34 Superbia wrote: Where the hell is Obi? Where the fuck did he go after "that wall wasn't too bad". He was tired and wanted to go to bed. Nah, IIRC it was something to do with your read on him or he was sus. of it or something. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:41 scott31337 wrote: I'm consolidating, sheeping my bud Shapelog. At page 224 had a lot of drinky fun last night CTS here, also since when was i your buddy? and if i am, Why did you not invite me to to drinky fun! | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote: Shape your wrong about super I think Well you better change my faith in the next 15 mins buddy because apparently i have 2 votes due to scott. | ||
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This wallowing is extectly what i did in XIX lylo to avoid scott sus. he is doing a poor pitful me. | ||
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It is because i am right. Caught you fucking slipping sson. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:53 Damdred wrote: Tumble isn't interested in finding scum only saving himself again. Oh man oh man. I noticed. Prob. is is that he has done that before as town. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote: Go to tumble look at him justifying jumping off a town flip in super, only to say he will vote ls to save himself. He doesn't think anyone is scum vote him. Didn't he go, "what possible shenngins are there. Can we do VA?" which in lines with his scum reads/? | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote: And if he flips town shape? What Va? You arugement was that he was not pushing a scum read but then he wanted to shengins onto VA | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why Did we do that because in the heat you forgot all that you knew about him and tunneled him and killed him. nice to see though that i was correct with meta, sadly.Actually, this is the 1st time he rolled blue so eh. | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote: You people are extremely bad at the game. Extremely bad. I will now actively vote bad town. Damdred first. ![[image loading]](http://media3.giphy.com/media/OvpBpU8u10vSw/giphy.gif) | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:22 Koshi wrote: I cannot believe this shit. I can't either, you find it justified to BM everyone in the god damm thread because you disagreed with the lynch, EVEN though you cbarse to do anything to stop it. I was there, i fought for him and what did you do? Diablo, fucking Satan in Spanish. So if you want to be hypocritical and call other players dumb and think you are jesus or something then go fucking ahead. I don't fucking care anymore, I might just sheep Rik and OWS on the train out of TLmafiaville. | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote: I posted the entire phase reasoning to vote ritoky. I didn't know you could only turn on your brain on the last 1 hour of the fucking 48 hour cycle. My bad. gtfo W/e all you going to do is be a dick and bm everyone. Hell it shows that you just want to argue b/c you are raging that tumble got lynch and now going after me who fucking defended him. w/e just w/e | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote: then why did he lead a lynch on the basically game confirmed tumblewood Why did you wait till last min to make a comment about tumble? | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:36 VayneAuthority wrote: hm? ive said hes town for a while now. ever since the tictock lynch Me too, in fact i TR him before 1st flip due to meta. You post 1 min, "There are many reasons why tumble are town but w/e" Me: fucking defend the guy for 30 mins | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:38 VayneAuthority wrote: I assume shapelog and one of koshi/damdred dies tonight depending on wifom I really hope it is me. On April 04 2016 07:39 ritoky wrote: done with this toxic thread. ^ seconded. | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote: Scott even th tough claimed vig did something super interesting with his vote. What do you think shape. idk he went from i am your buddy and likeing my case to wanting to lynch tumble on the fly. But so did what like 4 people? Went from liking the wagon to voting tumble. On April 04 2016 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote: somewhere superbia is laughing behind his computer and he somehow escaped another lynch because somehow teamliquid still thinks writing words and having a big filter = auto town. lol wont ever change. 30 page filter form XIX, telling you, you learn alot from the game and how people TR people. But that was not why super got away, he got away due to his poor pitiful me routine. | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:55 Damdred wrote: It's a bit troubling to me tbh shape he was so into the case then hopped off onto tumble for no reasons it's really strange tbh. Yeah it kinda does, thou IIRC he did scum read tumble/ was ok with lynching. Got to look back. On April 04 2016 07:55 sicklucker wrote: ............................................................................. your right but you just voted a confirmed town with them Why are you quoting a post about 5 and a half hours before deadline and before the tumble wagon witch hunt happen? | ||
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we are diverging into groups vs working together as one unit of awesomeness. ![[image loading]](http://divergentfactions.weebly.com/uploads/4/0/1/3/40130851/1937908_orig.jpg) We got: SL, Koshi, VA as: the rikitoy lynchers and porno gif givers. Damdred and LS as: BFF's the musical Shapelog and scott? as: Good smartiain assisting a drunken/hangover person to play. Riktoy and OWS as: the people who want to leave TL mafia. And i am prob. missing one. Anyways, These groups might interact with each other, but mostly all we do is bm each other about who is badder. Meanwhile, mafia gets to sit back and just laugh at how dumb we are and enjoy their free win as we have our heads too far up our arses and are going around spite lynching people. Don't get me wrong, maybe one group is right, and we should be lynching them. But people aren't actively discussion enough about their lynch target most of the time. And sometimes they change their minds and switch people from "100% confirm scum to sk to scum again" (not saying names thou) and that prob influences the other groups that it is dumb and move on. I am also concern because last game (noir) that i played in, town had a shitty atmosphere which allowed mafia to tilt everyone's views and almost win the game (Saint Yammty saved us in lylo.) and i am starting to see that happen here with how people are getting. We can win this game, we prob. got all the info we need to win this game, and i will not allow dumbass agurements and BM to fuck over town. I mean we have 3 fucking flipped scum and most of us are in agreement or share simular reads, but yet we do not actually get anywhere with it. ![[image loading]](http://mezzic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dsc_0965.jpg) ""A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Good ole Abe lincoin. ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e3/ac/f7/e3acf7e5d03660a004f0778d3e124144.jpg) So let us get our heads out of the gutter (including myself), stop bming each other, and actually discuss things rationally (also a short coming in my play). We can win this. And before one of you goes (and i am not naming anyone) "BAD PLAYER, BAD PLAYER! I ALREADY CAUGHT SCUM IT IS So, in good faith, i will relook at all of the rik case this morning/afternoon. | ||
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We prob. do, we got 2 innocent (3 if you count the lynches before TT shenngions) lynches and 1 flipped scum lynched + 2 flipped scum filters. I am just lazy right now at school + off and on to do anything right now later tonight maybe.On April 05 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote: I'm not even in a team. Prob. are. Prob the one i am missing too. prob. | ||
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On April 05 2016 01:03 Superbia wrote: Give me a team name. S.C.U.M supercalifragilisticexpialidocious cumumber of ununderwhelming mendaciloquence | ||
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On April 05 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote: Meh. Kinda hope you die. Eh, ask your QT about it. + Show Spoiler + TBF I have admitted that i might be tunneling you. | ||
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On April 05 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote: It's about Koshi sicklucker and reactions I found their reaction to the lynch very strange. They wanted a different lynch yet they didn't try to stop the lynch on Tumblewood. Do you think any of them are scum for their reaction to Tumblewood's lynch and lack of attempt to stop his lynch? Eh, Well Koshi was weireding me out about pushing after Rels died (the manner he did it) but i had to realize that it was Koshi we were talking about, and once he started talking about Sk = Riks i kinda ignore it. The Yelling and screaming thing he did after Tumble's lynch was something i could see him doing as town and therefore will always be WIFOM to discuss, since we cannot actually determine anything from it, and is mostly based on bias rather than fact. About SL, he didn't really complain much about the lynch. Like he had 3 posts even talking about the lynch. On April 04 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote: I gave you fucking 48 hour warning that I wouldnt be here my plans acualy feel through but my sleep scedule was fucked and jetalgged. then you all didnt vote till 6 hours left. not my fault On April 04 2016 08:14 sicklucker wrote: we are one all of a sudden (minus are targets) On April 04 2016 08:19 sicklucker wrote: to be fair lynching ritoky made a hell of alot more sense then lynching tumbleweed the only thing that i notice quote on quote weird was that he was "mad" about the lynch, but yet wasn't focused enough to it to only do that. He was jumpy a bit. Other than that i do not find it sus, and what i did find could be explain either way. | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:04 Palmar wrote: Day 5 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aZ5ZkMU.png) Superbia the Tentacled Monster is dead It is now Day 5. Night falls in . As much as i like seeing my scum read flip 3rd party. Who shot him? | ||
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Tentacles implies contracting, so it sounds Rbish in nature. But, if he is mafia (and that post i called a slip was correct), who shot 2nd mafia then. Like: 2 teams of 3 + 3rd party 7 intotal..... Seems unlikely Thou, 1 team of 4-5 + 3rd party = 5- 6 people to kill. But then how has 3 KP been happening? | ||
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Why would mafia X shot into who they would think is third party? I mean if he was SK or a killing role, most time those are immune and would waste a shot. Also, were did super's hit land? | ||
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That would mean that there is another team party due to name... Nothing is making sense. 3 Kp after Kuru dies. 3 Kp during n2. A team of 4 + SK. That would mean that team of 4 should be around 1 kp (either by the 2 Kp for 2 nights rule or total players/2 rule) and Sk should equal one. But yet we have 3 KP night after kuru dies. 2 teams of mafia, each with 1 Kp Plus something like a vig role that adds 1 KP would make sense with the KP. At least IMO | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:54 Koshi wrote: the sk had a kp. And mafia has +1 kp when mafia gets lynched. They got sandroba his role on mafia. There is no kp missing like that. That means 5 Kp koshi.... 3 flipped Scum... = 3 KP + Sk's Kp Assuming that they have 1 fractional KP. Which seems likely as a fucking mafia team that can't NK n1 makes no sense. | ||
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On April 05 2016 08:24 Koshi wrote: N1 there was at least 2 anti town kp, 1 was saved on JAT, and 1 was rb'ed by Vivax on Kurumi. Maybe there was antitown kp on sicklucker, maybe mafia roleblocked the sk or shot the sk. Or w.e. Easy way for 3 kp which would be 1 factional mafia kp, 1 vigi mafia kp and sk shot. N2 there was 3 anti town kp. My guess is from mafia factional kp, revenge mafia kp and sk. N3 there was 3 anti town kp. My guess is from mafia factional kp, revenge mafia kp and sk. (I think they stacked on Rels or mafia shot superbia once. Or there was a rb from sk on mafia. N4 there was 1 antitown kp. Mafia shot sk. I don't know what the sk did. Was he rb'ed? tldr: I don't know. Yeah i went to bed and realized what you meant, i was being dumb. Also yeah, supers shot was missing as well (which was prob. was what was throwing me off.) Though there can be only 3 possibilities: 1) Damdred target was healed (which IIRC was me), but while super was in danger of dying, killing me would make him more sus. so that does not seem likely. 2) SL vested (still do not know if i think he is actually blue or not) 3) RBed on him, which would mean TT is reg. doc. Catching up | ||
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On April 05 2016 08:49 Koshi wrote: Well it is only not so bad because you have people like ritoky/LS/Koshi/OWS in this game as well. The towns out of those 4 should be really ashamed of themselves. That being said. That Koshi guy was the first to keep repeating Superbia was mafia. He had him lock down mafia on D1. I don't understand why I am alive. Really good reason to think I was protected by mafia medic on N1 tbh. Seriously. What did Superbia do N1? Probably mafia blocked sk and town blocked mafia or something. Then I was the first to crack the code on Kurumi. Rels was actually the first vote but w.e. I had the reasoning. Well VA as well. But less written out with the kp missing and shit. Then I was not part of the TW lynch. Which in theory is common sense and nothing special, but for some reason 5-6 people were on that lynch so I guess I am fucking brilliant compared to those. So tldr: I am actually pretty good. rsoultin was a bit unlucky. tldr: I am actually pretty confirmed town because Kurumi went after me pretty hard. And not the bussy way. very unlikely we are scum together. Very likely I will get lynched by OWS, Damdred, LS, and Shape now though. Yes koshi, totes going to lynch you b/c your one of my highest town reads *rolls eyes* | ||
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On April 05 2016 10:53 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I will make it easier you are either voting me or you voting ritoky. One of us is scum and one of us is town. No and nor buts about it. ##Vote: ritoky What the fuck is this shit? Ls Wtf? First off, how do you know that one of you are town and the other is scum? actually not that but also why the fuck do you think that? I mean what townie (or scum) goes "Alright X and me are town or mafia, one each. Guess which one hehe." mode. Not only do you focus all attention onto this but you also fuck over town here. If your wrong, and both of you are town, then you basically have caused the game to go to Lylo with 2 mafia players alive in a 5 mafia team vs sk situation (or how many scums there are.) Not only that, but this feels really off in terms of timing as well. | ||
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Best case (where both of you are town) you get us into 4/1 situation. Best case you are right and we lynch a scum. | ||
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On April 05 2016 14:32 Damdred wrote: Though SL immediately thought I blocked a shot so he didn't use a shield probably.... I think its super likely that shape is a rb rb super so he isn't shot and rides it home. Also explains why rels died with a protect on him. Also just so va can concentrate. I'm a combat medic, I protect someone they get shot in told they get shot. I then have to decide to stay with that person and keep them alive or protect someone else and let them auto die. So i rbed the person who i would think would never shoot me due to him being even more sus. since he killed someone who was sus. on him? Versus rbing you to stop you from even healing anyone? Hmm, i don't even if mafia is allowed to use a role and dish out KP at the same time. I know it differences from host to host and game to game so idk. Anyways, Your role sounds like a very weird and augmented version of the CPR doc. But I am confused about one thing, If the target gets shot, they get told or do you get told? | ||
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On April 05 2016 17:05 Koshi wrote: Ok so if logic is allowed to be used. Shape can be killed if we let Damdred pick another target tonight. I wonder what happens when Damdred picks a target at night and the same night gets shot. Or when he is sitting on somebody and gets shot. Let me know Damdred. Do not lie. You can be VT from now on. You do not have to use your power. Actually i do not think that is correct, since i was not apparently shot at last night. I think it only works if I got shot last night. If i read his description of his role correctly. I still think Damdred is doc here, just i do not fully understand his role yet. | ||
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LS posts about "me or rik" rubbed me wrong. I really do not understand the mindset that he has here. Idk about him, I felt like he was town before, but hes been slowing deteriorating that read on him. Like one of the things i remember from N1 about LS was that he was already at that time hyperventilating about being auto-lynched after Rsoul flipped. Which felt off at the time a bit, but i thought it would be weird for scum to post in the thread that they had no scum reads 2 hours before the lynch and then stress out in thread about being auto-lynch vs venting in a qt, sheeping instead of me having to literally posting basic stuff just ask Who/what/when where type of questions to him to make him read someone. And he picked Tube so :/ His filter has a a lot of self defending. And his votes have really been bad. But what is also weird, is that he is not acting like he was in cell. In cell he had a target, he had a agenda. Here? not so much. idk, like he has tunneled into "Everyone is sus. of me" mode" and is now trying to commit Sudoku. If he flips scum, then obv. someone who is not sus. at all TODAY (as they prob. thought of about it today) is prob the scum buddy. Idk, i feel like he will flip town though, as a martyr play as scum really do not make sense as it would put mafia in a bad situation. | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:17 Koshi wrote: ah does it work like that. that's why he gets a noticifaction. Now it makes sense. Not sure how you figured that out. Can you show the posts? So he protects a target and if the target is targetted with kp during the night, if Damdred ever leaves that target the target dies. but If he protects a target and if the target is not targetted with kp during the night, Damdred can leave that person without the target dieing? Idk if that is how its works, i just inferred it. On April 05 2016 14:32 Damdred wrote: I'm a combat medic, I protect someone, if they get shot im told they get shot. I then have to decide to stay with that person and keep them alive or protect someone else and let them auto die. Read the bold only. Added if to it cause it would make sense. And changed the in to I'm as it read as a spelling mistake. That is how i read it. I'm guessing if they are not shot, they do not get on life support. Cause otherwise, Damdred gets punished by healing someone he thinks might get shot (medic dodges) | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:18 Koshi wrote: Good post. I had the same ideas over the game. Damdred saying you could be scum is the dumbest thing after the Tumble lynch. I mean he is wrong, but at least he is considering all options koshi. I rather have someone in my town who considers everything vs. someone who puts something down and just hopes to get lucky, instead of questioning everything and seeing if they are right. *cough cough NSM XIX cough* | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:34 Koshi wrote: What if Damdred protected rsoultin twice and the sk shot her twice? That would mean Damdred had to protect her N1 and N2 instead of JAT(who also died n2). also i think she would auto die according to Damdred description. As he said anyone who is hit again on life support would auto die. | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:46 sicklucker wrote: we dont know TT was a roleblocker man. You think palmar wouldnt mindgame us on that? You think thats below him? are you following this games mechanics? TT could be a Rb (with all that vivax hinting) and mafia lost a rb. That is why i said could Saltshaker........... Va or someone mention TT and i remember about it. Also yeah i know a person cannot find every possible angle, but what i was getting at was basically pondering things that do not seem obv. | ||
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Rik's plan took 17 mins (from game start) to be thought of and pushed out of rik's mind. But we have to consider that he had to think about it before due to him saying somewhere about how in close set ups you can do that to get it and blah blah blah. Scum!Rik not killing bluedamdred! seems weird to me. That might be because if damdred flipped blue it would bad on rik. But i just thought of something... Why would Rik. end the plan without trying to gain more information as scum? That kinda is a burning question to me. He could of keep quiet and allow scum to find more and more blues WHILE achiveivng the whole confirm angle he was going for. Outside of that, Rik. hasn't done much that was huge IMO. | ||
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On April 06 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote: Damdred not getting killed has nothing to do with ritoky his alignment. 1) ritoky blue read on Damdred was explained fully in the thread. Any mafia could pick that up. 2) Damdred claimed blue N2? Or even faster. Ik, but what i am getting at is why did he not wait and try to get more blues for his team if he was mafia? | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fixed. Meant to say scott, not ritoky. I don't think ritoky was there at the end anyway but that's what I meant to say lmao. Fun fact about OWS. Read the quote hidden too. Found this actually strange now after i look at OWS filter. Since later he throws sus. on scott, who earlier had this. | ||
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On April 06 2016 02:53 scott31337 wrote: I think LS is the better lynch - If my top town has a better read to sheep - I might be down for that. Fun fact, I called LS most likely to flip town, and scott goes for the vote. | ||
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If we do not win this phase (I.E. there are 4 scums and 1 sk and we lynch scum and win) we would have nk's with KP. That, In tell, would tell us more information about what is left in the game. I think. | ||
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On April 06 2016 09:16 Shapelog wrote: Just got home so going to catch up but i heard something about Mafia KP or whatever. If we do not win this phase (I.E. there are 4 scums and 1 sk and we lynch scum and win) we would have nk's with KP. That, In tell, would tell us more information about what is left in the game. I think. Yeah this isn't happening, I been interrupted a bit, plus I am tired since i had a seminar today after college. Tomorrow morning i read better. | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not really big on role speculation: that's VA's gig. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that scum gets an extra KP role due to the sk just existing and plausibly mucking up their plans at any point. Did you think the shot was towny or is the fact that he has a role at all the thing holding you back? TBF, (and i might be wrong here cuz it is nearing 9 in the morning) your sus. has to do with his role. | ||
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On April 06 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote: So you finally accepted my challenge to a death match this phase. Brilliant. I hope you are not just going to sit there and post these posts all cycle. Eh, i mean this is your plan in a nut shell + Show Spoiler + If you are both town, and you get lynched this cycle (which is what? 3-3-3 when i looked at the vote count this morning.) you will cause a witch hunt from town onto rik. next cycle. If rik is scum and you are town, you are protientullary letting someone you find scummy live instead of making a case against him. Your whole reasoning behind this was that you both were ?'s marks for everyone and everyone found you 2 scummy. If you are scum and rik is town, then you would be lynched and town would get more info, unless you somehow argue against it and sway enough people (which enough people are towning read you so meh.) If both of you are scum, pretty ballsy play. Dumb as you cast sus. on yourself, and forced to heavily bussed rik. though it is not bad so to say, as you could get yourself town read and coast. But it would be hard for you. Tinfoil but Actually that could also explain why you are so dead set on this plan, as you are actually secretly scum with scum!rik here and you are using this to get the cred needed to win. You have kill the Sk, therefore, you would not need to worry about KP. and therefore coast, defend. win. Tinfoilily but true. If anyone else gets lynched, you are still a "?'s" marks. Nothing is gain here from this plan. Hmmm, overall, this actually benefits either a T Vs S situation here or a S vs S situation here..... At least benefits the most. Your not a hero (see what i did, PYP role that makes this happen ) | ||
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On April 06 2016 17:19 sicklucker wrote: OF course it is hes been defending him all game for no reason. Altho its unlikely dandred is mafia. Flip ls mafia and maybe you can consider it. I think hes mafia regardless of dandreds role tho. Dandred has a really soft spot for defending people he has close connections too I have noticed over the mafia games. Yeah i always have seen (when they play together) that they are buddies. And focus on reading each other a lot. I wouldn't really think much of it. | ||
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On April 06 2016 22:17 LightningStrike wrote: If he was 3rd Party he would of killed me already. Super would? Wait, do you think super isn't 3rd party? + Show Spoiler + So far with the information given I've gone with the Sk idea since it makes sense. | ||
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On April 06 2016 22:21 LightningStrike wrote: They were multiple 3rd parties in the last storm game granted they were ninja's. So you think rik. is 3rd party? Cuz i didn't say he was third party in that post. That why i am confused. | ||
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Yes.... I tinfoil moment that you and rik could be scum, for the reasons in the post. idk where you got the idea i was calling rik 3rd party. Maybe when i meation Sk? but i was talking about super. :/ Anyways, i am not a firm believer in that yet. I still think you are town(ish), even if your plan makes no sense what so ever. | ||
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On March 27 2016 13:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Can you explain Rels and Slam to me? I'm starting to come around on tumble possibly being scum and I'm already aware of the fact that TT needs to die regardless of what he is. On March 28 2016 03:07 Koshi wrote: Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + rsoultin Likely Town + Show Spoiler + Vivax Rels justanothertownie Maybe town + Show Spoiler + ObiWanShinobi Shapelog Damdred LightningStrike Not going to lynch Town + Show Spoiler + VayneAuthority Alakaslam Tictock (if he keeps playing, otherwise kill with no remorse) Null + Show Spoiler + sandroba Won't lynch right now Mafia + Show Spoiler + ritoky Maybe Mafia + Show Spoiler + Kurumi Likely Mafia + Show Spoiler + Tumblewood Confirmed Mafia + Show Spoiler + Superbia sicklucker Game is hard. On March 28 2016 03:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'd probably switch ritoky and TT. Otherwise I'm a fan of that list Koshi. On March 28 2016 23:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I started agreeing with it and then kind of axed that idea when I started moving people around. Tumble is probably my top scum along with Tt and I've got a few outliers that aren't concrete yet. On March 29 2016 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think we should lynch Ticktock for perpetually staying behind and doing whatever instead of being obnoxious and difficult like he usually is. On March 29 2016 04:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Koshi why was tumble in your mafia list? On March 29 2016 05:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already mentioned this but nobody else went for it. On March 29 2016 06:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everyone piles onto my lynch again... Now I'm paranoid. D: On March 29 2016 06:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And TT is also voting TW... I don't know what this means but it's scary, yo. On March 29 2016 06:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Idfk. Wat do. On March 29 2016 06:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fuck I don't know. There is some weird things (that i do not know if it has been mention) when i look back at Obi's filter. He had TT and Tw as top scum reads, pushed the TT lynch. Wanted a TT lynch, yet was not sure if the lynch on TT was a good idea. From a view point, Obi should of been fine with either lynch. And shouldn't be freaking out when confounded with the TT lynch. He also had TT in the same boat as tumble, yet he did not push nearly as hard as he did on Tumble (at least IMO.) This feels like soft pushing to me. I look at more when i get the time. | ||
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On April 07 2016 05:28 LightningStrike wrote: I thought that Koshi was town that why I didn't go on his wagon. I think he was talking about the scum team LS lol. Going to look into a few things. | ||
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On April 07 2016 03:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: TT was voting TW which messed up my reads, and nobody ever sheeps me on anything so me getting my lynch is weird. I explained both of these things already. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BBOg66l.gif) I just wanted to use this gif. found it like 2 mins ago. | ||
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A lot of things are flip floping my view on him rn. Anyways, rik, now knowing that basically sk and mafia pretty much had the role pm's, takes away 1 reason i did not like the lynch. His one post about lynching him to move the game along kinda felt townie (reminds me of MA in XIX.) A course if he flips scum, we auto know that there is a fifth scum in the game (well obv, we know since game wouldn't end) but because he was fine being lynch. God this really is lining up with the tinfoil idea i had with LS and Rik lol. + Show Spoiler + Why is Rik. always in a tinfoil theory when i play with him? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:34 Koshi wrote: scott really doesn't make sense for mafia. sicklucker? has saltshaker actually fully expainled his role and revealed everything yet? We did it do damdred, and the #'s of blue are a issue, yet we really haven't asked SL to fully tell us all the details. My prob. with his role has been the number of vests he has. idk if he can claim it, but if he can, he should IMO. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:38 Damdred wrote: I honestly don't know I feel like an idiot this game because I'm missing aomrthing ikr? I feel like something doesn't add up, yet i can't place my finger on it. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I still feel like it's a shot in the dark but I'll vote him to save myself if that's what's going to happen. Yeah, idk, the trend so far has it to where townies say they will save themselves with voting the counterwagon. But.... | ||
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Rik questioned my about my case on Kuru. Ok, he was unsure how he was mafia blah blah. No harm done. I responded and try to show him my points and IIRC he never responded to them. I could be wrong about the responding part but anyways, Then the next thing that happens is Kuru claims scum. And now we have a defeated tone rik here. Who Ls wants to go up against in a duel. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote: Maybe mafia together? If they are not, why are both ritoky and damdred not focussing on this? Would explain why a scum!rik hasn't kill damdred yet. But that is a bad assoactive read, let alone pre assoactive. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:56 LightningStrike wrote: Rolf I only been mislynched once past Day 2 as Town and that was in Metal Mini in LYLO. GL lynching me. suddenly cocky, Yeah i need to see this LS/rik as ows said. plus I feel most certain about him right now. | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:08 LightningStrike wrote: ............Well according to my thing I now Mafia. WHY WOULD PALMAR GIVE ME THE WRONG ROLE PM THEN IF I AM MAFIA LIKE WHY? Wtf are you trying to argue here? "welp, according to myself i am mafia. But, what if the host actually gave me a secret scum Pm? Totes town." I think this fits now: | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:12 LightningStrike wrote: I going to ruin the TL Scum claim now I guess just so we don't need them anymore: ![[image loading]](http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/files/2012/02/baby-seal.jpg) Ok..... You have gone into payaso town here. | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't think that scumclaim was serious. Payaso town translates into clown town. | ||
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Clowns are suppose to be funny. On April 07 2016 07:21 LightningStrike wrote: Why Palmar is scum this game: 1. First off he made the Storm Mafia series. 2. Must of given me the wrong role pm because apparently ritoky is town unless he gave ritoky the wrong role pm. 3. The modconfirming of Damdred which something I don't expect from a town Palmar to do. I rest my case here. Lol, Idk man Hapa was pretty sus. in Noir, but he ended up being town after endgame. Think you buying into this host WIFOM a bit too much. seems to be going around. | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:27 LightningStrike wrote: If I flip town what will you do? Because I going to flip VT unless Palmar corrects the role pm that I should of gotten at the start of the game. I might not even see the sun ls lol. Anyways, If you flip town, then you really should of really taken this time to prove to the thread (some are easier to others) that you are town instead of this. As much as i like jokes, I, and several other people have put effort into this and i actually want to win a town game, as a person who helped, without being blue or something dumb as that. Like this is your level i would say you are at right now: ![[image loading]](http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Wow_513cfa_1284455.gif) I still need to go back, but really, your play right now won't help town if you are town. I really do not want a nail bitter Lylo either, and we do not really right now know for certain how many we might have Ml's we have. Unless you are scum and flip and we win. | ||
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On April 07 2016 20:07 Koshi wrote: I cba to actually think about mafia anymore. Won't do it in this game. Won't do it in future games. 100% ingame observer from now on. I think I will sheep shape, sicklucker and VA. ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/4a/54/164a54bef42869d9352b6f0bf0d7edda.jpg) | ||
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On April 08 2016 03:49 LightningStrike wrote: I always wanted to case a host lol but seriously I will put some real content out soon. Pffff, chump. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504427-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-4?user=Shapelog&page=7 + Show Spoiler + On March 12 2016 08:10 Shapelog wrote: OH GOD I JUST FUCKING REALIZED WHAT THE DAY START GIF WAS. And I thought the story plot hole of me being one of Marvs most hated players was bad, because he never played with me therefore would not have a opinion on me. ##VOTE:Hapahauli, even fucking killed Sky Night 0 and literally claimed it. On March 12 2016 08:18 Shapelog wrote: I don't even have to continue the associative reads, Hapa is clearly the last scum mate. 1st claims to kill sky basically: 2nd, supported Flaming but when it got too hot in the kitction, he did a 180 filp and helped get vivax lynched. 3rd, Started the game early to take away curtical last min LYLO time time. Lol only if he played for what prob. was a medic save on me when he shot me. Lol he even knows TMI about what blues are in the game because of his scum role as Host. So Scummy, vote him off with me! On March 12 2016 08:19 Shapelog wrote: Now to finish paper and stop procrastinating by calling the host scum. WHICH HE IS TOTALLY IS AND YOU MUST VOTE HIM WITH ME IN THE VOTING THREAD, On March 12 2016 08:23 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote Hapa All that needs saying until I can get around to being serious later tonight. till then enjoy my Shaperape as Kura called it. On March 12 2016 10:15 Shapelog wrote: *Yawn* This excitement was killing me. Anyways, I might not be on tomorrow so I am going to do some digging dig digging. I am going to look into what Rels is talking about and go on from there. Also ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3C6VDpu.gif) At everyone who thought I was not serious about Lynching the Host. I am using the scientific method here people and I need experiment for data! I need your vote on Hapa to make this work. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PN0F6B3.png) All MS paint Baby! On March 12 2016 10:53 Shapelog wrote: So I have your Vote? Good good good. Just place your vote when your ready. I am what TL mafia needs. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/y6kgX.jpg) On March 15 2016 02:08 Shapelog wrote: AH IT IS SCUM KILL IT WITH FIRE. TAKING AWAY A HOUR OF GAME TIME!!!!!!! VOTE HAPA VOTE HAPA!!!! BLACK TOWNIE DOWN, BLACK TOWNIE DOWN!!!!!! GeTa to the WagoN!!!! Eh taking a break from diving, want to do at least Tumble (he needs a relook from me) and yammty if i feel/get time for it. On March 15 2016 02:27 Shapelog wrote: Can anyone tell me why Hapa is not scum? and @Rels, yeah claiming in this set up (with randomness too) is pretty great. On March 15 2016 02:30 Shapelog wrote: Like Hapa = ![[image loading]](http://www.garotasgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/monstro-cidade1.gif) With all these small but dramatic changes. There is more too. I am about to head home in a few. Then i look at some filters and post some reads in a bit. | ||
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On March 26 2016 07:06 sicklucker wrote: IF rsoul is mafia im getting nked anyway so we wont have to worry about that tinfoil I thought Comrade SL posted more of these kind of posts, yet he only posted the one. I felt it was strange, that on the night he was "shot", he had posted (remember I misremembered comrade) a lot of posts saying how mafia rsoul was going to shoot him. Which sounded like a play to me, since already 2 other scumlovishs claimed blue roles, and perhaps their idea was to swarm the thread to where one would be confirm town, which would explain also the weirdiness of someone like kuru's claiming time. Which actually, scumlovishs Rsoul and kuru doesn't actually fit with comrade SL, so idk why i thought of a crazy play they would do. Eh, maybe something to do with Sumlovish Kuru's "Big plays" death rant he was doing. I was going to look at those posts and his reactions towards it, yet comrade Saltshaker didn't do that much about that. (above type of post comrade) Eh. I look anyways at comrades SaltShakers reaction to getting shot again and see if it lines up with the above. Pretty sure it does. | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:18 LightningStrike wrote: What is the Glorious Idea my master? Where is your Glorious Content Comrade LS that you promised to do? | ||
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Goes way back when i said the scumblovish kuru had a secret agenda and that it involved Comrade SL somehow, whether it was to defend or to attack. Eh the way the Scumblovish attacked SL and voted for him felt weird, yet i really can't image a reason why he would do that. Wait, Comrades, didn't SL complain about not lynching rik and following his case about why rik was scum? | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:40 sicklucker wrote: OR MAYBE. JUST MAYBE. BEAR WITH ME WERE GOING TO CRAZY TOWN HERE SHPAE LOG ARE YOU READY? IS YOUR ANUS RDY? + Show Spoiler + rstoulin was mafia and she did shoot me No, no, no, no, no comrade your doing it wrong. First, you got to post a image. Follow comrade? good. Now, move your arms around. Good comrade! da getting the hang of this. Now you may enter meh crazy town. ![[image loading]](http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tng20.gif) Comrade must this crazy to enter. | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:43 sicklucker wrote: no I knew ritoky was town and said so all game because im not terrible and all my reads have been correct that fliped. Yes I did vote for him but only as the 7th vote and because koshi promised to sheep me on the obvious mafia :D Ah ok. I think you really have eased my sus.s on you. | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:52 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways VA is probably scum tryharding after he realized how much trouble his team was. Please go on comrade. | ||
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On April 08 2016 06:16 LightningStrike wrote: btw Damdred stay on Shape and save him. ![[image loading]](http://media.tumblr.com/c1e601f5f79d27970acd4ce3d7257ab6/tumblr_inline_mgbsk2YcX61rw7h68.gif) | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:10 Kurumi wrote: Sicklucker, don't brood too much on Superbia's idea, it might give bad results!!! I think mafia knew about SL role a long time ago. | ||
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On April 08 2016 07:41 VayneAuthority wrote: that is self explanatory from just the kill, you don't shoot into a potential vet and ignore the doctor without knowing what you are doing Well then the question to ask is why did they wait? Did they think he was immune or something? On April 08 2016 07:45 Damdred wrote: It messes with my head how shape finds that stuff so far. Me too, Been like a machince this game. (well minus a few things that i got wrong :/) But it feels nice to say that I actually am now better at town when i am town then when i am scum. | ||
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On April 08 2016 07:49 Koshi wrote: Well this last mafia has been destroying 3rd and 4th party but he is a rolecop so I guess he knows who to kill. Is it LS hunting down rsoultins killer? hahahahaha would be hilarious. that would be funny as hell if that is the case | ||
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On April 08 2016 22:20 Koshi wrote: I will feel bad if he is the doc but seriously. He is still alive. Come on.. At this rate the only one who would kill him is actually 3rd p. I understand that the set up suggests that there is a town medic. But does it? Where the fuck is all the kp?????????? Were is supers last KP too? It obv that he wasn't a poisoner (cuz no one other than SL died tonight) Unless if he poisoned SL/Rik. | ||
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On April 08 2016 22:48 LightningStrike wrote: Well I am town at least so at least 1+ BTW Town never won a Storm game yet to this date. It was 3rd Party and Scum winning the previous Storm games. AND DAMDRED WANTED TOWN TO WIN PREGAME. SO OBV HE IS THE LAST SCUM, KILLING ALL THE 3RD PARTY FOLK, AND FAKED CLAIM, SO AFTER EVERYTHING IS DONE AND OVER IT, TOWN WINS. AND THAT EXPLAINS WHY RSOUL AND KURU CLAIMED. AND TT POSTED PROB. THE MOST SCUMMIEST THING EVER POSSIBLE FOR A SCUMMY PERSON TO POST SO OBVAHSDOIHASDJASOIHDWOHDSOAIHDOIwhdois ^ This is a joke, i was stressed that someone IRL yelled at me for no reason. So i needed to troll to get it out of my system. | ||
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On April 08 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote: There has been no game ever that mafia leaves a medic this long alive. And Damdred can't even self protect. Or didn't try it ever. This is bullshit. ##unvote ##vote Damdred yolo. I can't vote with sicklucker on LS because sl is ded. So I am pretty sure the pinkie promise is absolved. If he self protects and gets shot koshi, then he can't heal anyone else without dieing. Since he would be lifesupporting himself (?) Also lol about the pinkie promise thing. | ||
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On April 08 2016 23:14 VayneAuthority wrote: Now if we lynch damdred: 1. We lynch mafia and it's really cool 2. we will have killed 4 blues as town, 3 through lynches. Which is probably unprecedented and would definitely be a new record we can proudly hold as part of this town seems like win/win Hmmmm, I already have a nomination apparently from Koshi for best case of the year. But 2 nominations.. That is pretty swag. Idk, i would like to look at his filter. If he is doc, then he gives us potentially another lynch (or can in certain senerios). | ||
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On April 09 2016 00:46 Damdred wrote: Hi, I know I've played badly but everyone who's alive minus shape has been kinda meh. I'm really sick right now and can't do anything eight now. See you guys later ![[image loading]](http://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mam446pJyZ1rxevt4o1_500.gif) | ||
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I am too lazy to pull it up, but ik at least he asked me to vote. And i was third | ||
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On April 09 2016 04:40 Damdred wrote: I sort of think it's Scott but if it is that means there is another mafia I think with him. Eh, I am kinda wary of scott, because in some ways, i see him trying to pocket me with all theses posts about me being so town and cratering to me, while not actually crating to me. | ||
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On April 09 2016 05:30 scott31337 wrote: You aren't dead yet either - should I not be a little suspicious? I remember our last game I know what you are capable of.Hehe, Kush still goes around (even off of TL) saying i am a scum god, even though i only played one game as scum . | ||
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On April 09 2016 08:36 Koshi wrote: Can I sheep somebody. Seems like people are just waiting. gogo shape. Go convince us all to lynch somebody. Meh, i do one tomorrowish hopefully, trying to do a paper right now. On April 09 2016 08:38 Koshi wrote: I am ok with ows ls and damdred tbh "make a case Shapelog." "Ok with these people Shapelog, just in case you know....want to case them." You know Koshi, it kinda is contradiction if you want me to make a case to convince someone, yet are ok with those 3, even though the case is to convince to lynch the casie. And might not be those 3. | ||
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On April 09 2016 15:24 scott31337 wrote: Shapelog showed info (with his fucking mental magic memory) Mafia knew SL was 3p. Damdred was amazed he remembered that quote - Is this TMI? Not really a magic memory, more like i was rereading Kuru's filter around the time i remembered about the whole secert agenda thing (about 1-2 hours before flip). I read that post and found the word brood weird but didn't think anything of it. Then SL flipped, and his role was "brood"mother. My brain just made the connection. | ||
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On April 09 2016 15:28 scott31337 wrote: We've been lynching into eehhh and getting town every time. Yeah. Personally, i feel like if there is 2 mafia, it is split between Ls/OWS and Koshi/VA/(just for good sportsmanship)Me I think (don't quote me) we prob. have maybe another lynch after this. We could prob. find the one in the LS/OWS pile since we have enough lynches. If one flips scum, then we could filter them and find a connection into the other group. A course, if one flips scum. The risk we are taking in that could undermine us and cause us to lose the game. The idea of reading in mind with 2 mafia could mess us up. Sure, if there is two people, and you lynch one and he flips scum and the game ends then no harm done. However, if it was reversed to where the town person in that group got lynched before the other, the actual scum could get away. Therefore, when i read this morning, i shall read with only one scum in mind. If we find a scum, and he gets lynched, then the game doesn't end, then we can worry about the second one. At least that is what I'm thinking. | ||
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On April 09 2016 15:01 scott31337 wrote: What about my meta case on LS, was it shit? On April 08 2016 06:59 scott31337 wrote: I've read LS's last game and I'm pretty confident he's the right lynch tomorrow. He was scum in this game. I'll bring up some comparisons - The fake angry rage - Millionaire - Here - Buddying up of mafia teammates - Millionaire - Scumdred and LS were scum together and hard defended each other. Tina and LS defend each other this game - etc. Used the same bullshit tinfoil meme to throw town off track- Millionaire - Here- Both Ritoky and Vivax were town. The one liner constistency and giving town as little information as needed - There's a lot of these here, so I'll just reference the filter above on this. The mafia QT from this game has some yummy tidbits too. "So I will try to play my town meta and have at least Damdred get a meta town read on me as he normally got a good way to read me." - Wow this sounds awfully familiar. TLDR - LS should be the lynch tomorrow. ![[image loading]](https://38.media.tumblr.com/69c99f30cb63988682bb0944adf86604/tumblr_nuovsubjdK1ry46hlo1_500.gif) Being in that game, and comparing it to here, LS was a lot least paranoid there he was here (IMO.) Trying to find fake anger for me is garbage due to me being in able to tell if it is fake or not (Team Melee) The Quote you picked for the defense wasn't really a defense post on tina (thought I know that those existed). It was him replying back to my post about his thought process on i think why he thought he would get auto lynched if rsoul dies. I mean the context of the 2 you picked are different, the one from millionaire (Still can't believe i cased the right person in that game :/) The first says "He reads me right, so you should sheep his read" while the one from here reads off as "I am afraid if tina flips scum, because i would be auto lynched." I am not denining the fact he defended tina, It's just not how he exploited the reads like he did last game. idk if he has used the meme as town. One liners: One liners are normal for LS as far as i can tell, but content wise he is lacking. really bad considering he said pre-game he was going to have a much more content rich game to were he would get town read for (Srsy, I am i the only one who followed through on those?) | ||
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On April 10 2016 05:03 scott31337 wrote: Uggg Koshi what do I doooo Shapelog where my homie at I have a show to go to in a little bit I'm not going to be around all day I said I had volunteer stuff today. Home now. | ||
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On April 10 2016 05:26 Koshi wrote: I wouldn't read them. Why not Koshi? Don't want me to find your secret prono stash? | ||
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"he doesn't care." "He is meh." "Pineapples are strange." I am going to look at peoples filters again. | ||
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On April 10 2016 05:47 Damdred wrote: I have been looking at posts and va basically said he doesn't care he's voting Obi. Oh i thought you meant like in general. | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:00 VayneAuthority wrote: tumble is town for a multitude of reasons but i stopped caring ^^ On April 04 2016 07:36 VayneAuthority wrote: hm? ive said hes town for a while now. ever since the tictock lynch On April 04 2016 07:40 VayneAuthority wrote: you also have a 19 page filter, I don't. And you won't find any game where I can be assed to convince borderline flowers I kinda let this slide at the time He also has repeatedly say damdred is scum due to being alive, and could explain why damdred is alive (ML) | ||
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On April 10 2016 06:21 Damdred wrote: Shape can you tell me why before making your case you thought kur was scum What time period? Early game i shared some of the sus. tube had on him and after some post, i town read or found it townyish. If you are talking about the "Kuru is scum scum scum." on D3 it was because i checked his filter and found the connect i later posted in my case. If i am missing something, tell meh. | ||
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there was also one post (posted during the night phase) where he had a list with one scum read on it (super) and a bunch of nulls and towns. He then says that null people prob. are mafia, but kinda rubbed me wrong as 1 of those people were Rsoul. He also pushed heavily for Rsoul = town the same night so meh. | ||
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On April 10 2016 06:38 Damdred wrote: Why? You think the people are town that jumped over right? Things of this nature just gets me worried after reading and rereading town guides and stuff like that. idk, the only person of being lynch when this started was OWS and he didn't really pushed it so actually it is fine. | ||
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On April 10 2016 06:42 LightningStrike wrote: Shape Goat me. I've seen a sheep shit today, I shall now use the term Goating to describe this action. | ||
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On April 11 2016 00:11 LightningStrike wrote: if it's shape it's because his filter is so fucking large like his last game that he might of slipped a few times that why he told me he had a big filter in his first scum game. It is not large considering my avergda post count as town, it actually is a tad smaller for reasons i said pregame. As for NSM XIX, yeah i slipped that i had a mafia agenda 3 posts inwards, and, that is why i spammed a lot. Also NSM XIX was done by day 5ish and we are at what? going into day 7? | ||
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On April 11 2016 06:42 Damdred wrote: Hmmm shape might of dumb telled or might of just miscounted. Or he's the last scum,and knows it's mylo tommorow. Isn't Mylo thou if it is 2 people? 4 v 2 right now, 3 v 2 in the morning. | ||
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What dumbass kills the guy who literally says "prob won't post anymore" than the 2 blue roles, or anyone else for that matter. | ||
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On April 11 2016 09:32 Damdred wrote: It's a what if scenario, it sounds bad when you read it. I should of expounded though. The only way either of us are mafia is if we are dealing with two mafia. Neither of us on our own can be scum because of the claimed powers and with the knowledge that someone is a rc, unless of course the engineer is a role cop which I hadn't thought of. Hrm that's probably not right we know that they probably role cop tumble with how kur told us he had an interesting role name and we know they role copped SL in any order. Past that I'm not sure. Hmmm, The only way that would be possible is if they checked SL night 1. I wouldn't think that Palmar would tell the living members the information if this is a HARD step up. | ||
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On April 11 2016 11:52 Damdred wrote: N1- JAT N2- Stay with JAT (jat does from second kp) N3- Rels N4- shape N5- Shape N6- Koshi Any particular reason you did not heal scott last night (other than the idea of 2 team, he has to be one idea)? | ||
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Underline the word Underline in this sentence. Which of our 3 hosts/cohosts have a name that is a name of a muscle in the human body? Did you get better? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a lollipop? What Alignment i'm I? What kind of shoe am I holding right now? | ||
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On April 11 2016 23:17 Damdred wrote: Well I'd the engineer is a rc type, could of went SL n1, tumble n2 and then super n3. Not sure if palmar would of given them the information on rs death or not tbh. It's a nice thought though I guess but not provable. Rsoul died n2. So no way for a check to happen n3 for a normal RC (unless this is a crazy role) | ||
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On April 11 2016 23:18 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure about the body part No I'll still be sick for some time I fear One two crack Leaning town still A loader. Palmar, Sorry to hear that. Get better soon! NO IT TAKES 3! I just remember that OWS has to post deem quotes about meh sometime today. You mean a loafer? | ||
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Shape bro, if you want to lynch Obi we probably will follow you. But I think it is better if we lynch Damdred. It's just better to lost the game and lynch the town doc in lylo.[/QUOTE] Didn't you just tell me not to trust anyone? Also, you just called Damdred the town doc, yet you are sus. of him enough to vote him off. | ||
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On April 12 2016 01:32 Koshi wrote: Shape bro, if you want to lynch Obi we probably will follow you. But I think it is better if we lynch Damdred. It's just better to lost the game and lynch the town doc in lylo. Didn't you just tell me not to trust anyone? Also, you just called Damdred the town doc, yet you are sus. of him enough to vote him off. | ||
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On April 12 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote: btw Shape, you are like the only one who doesn't "get it". Or better said "has it". Maybe OWS as well. I think everybody we lynched + everybody who died was demotivated as fuck. But don't worry. Not planning on lynching you. That actually is a good point... Tube Stutter, TT, Kuru to a degree, Rik, VA | ||
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On April 12 2016 02:48 Koshi wrote: And just lynch Damdred please. Do it just for the message "I think I am again the ml of choice" That post gave me cancer. I've had cancer. Think you did too IIRC Anyways, Can we concede as town? That would be a great cherry on top if we conceded. Don't even think that has been done before. | ||
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Why, because i'm looking at things as if there is one scum (and have said so?) On April 09 2016 20:56 Shapelog wrote: Yeah. Personally, i feel like if there is 2 mafia, it is split between Ls/OWS and Koshi/VA/(just for good sportsmanship)Me I think (don't quote me) we prob. have maybe another lynch after this. We could prob. find the one in the LS/OWS pile since we have enough lynches. If one flips scum, then we could filter them and find a connection into the other group. A course, if one flips scum. The risk we are taking in that could undermine us and cause us to lose the game. The idea of reading in mind with 2 mafia could mess us up. Sure, if there is two people, and you lynch one and he flips scum and the game ends then no harm done. However, if it was reversed to where the town person in that group got lynched before the other, the actual scum could get away. Therefore, when i read this morning, i shall read with only one scum in mind. If we find a scum, and he gets lynched, then the game doesn't end, then we can worry about the second one. At least that is what I'm thinking. The only reasons i have talked about 2 people as scum after that is to say we might be in MYLO/LYLO or to respond to someone else about a 2 team idea. Also, fun fact, SL claimed the roll (rolecop) that mafia 99% of the time has here. | ||
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On April 12 2016 06:22 Koshi wrote: You haven't really bm'ed at all and here you do it without giving conclusions. Might be because you are talking about yourself and having a laugh. Me? Yeah, I don't BM much, even if i am frustrated at a game most of a time. maybe here and there, but most of the time i try to keep a level head because I already spam like hell (which i fixed IMO so Yay!) A course if someone yells at me about how dumb that lynch was, when i wasn't even a part of it and was defended said person who was lynched, Yeah, i might have a thing or two to pick. If BM is what you are using now to read people, then just lynch me. | ||
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Mostly has to do with posts talking about me casing a fool. It started out innocently, you know. "Shape or scott, you should make cases blah blah blah." Then repeat about twice, then add "And VA." to it. Then, "Shape....Va...Scott?" to "Shape make a case, we sheep" to "Shape make a case, if it is X/Y/Z I sheep/push it", to "Shape Make a case, what about obi?" "Shape make a case, you can convince the thread." And whats weird, he did this I'm pretty sure while Rik was getting lynched, which IIRC he also thought at the time that rik was last scum and the game was going to end (I think, don't quote me on that) | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote: Don't lynch me due to cases like this. Holy fuck. Oh? So i can post cases on anyone, and you say you sheep it. Yet i bring up something that i find sus. of you (which 1st off isn't a case, and 2 is just something i find sus.), and you do this? | ||
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It wasn't even a case, nor did i check it (and even said i could be wrong about things) | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:42 Koshi wrote: oh wait this is his list post. Well it has obi and Shape... Didn't he the next post after this say something about me bein gin the not lynch list, due to the point you made? | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:50 Koshi wrote: The only one who would name himself pet monkey Bamboozled is Shape or Slam. I don't even..... | ||
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Go ahead lynch me, not fucking dealing with this dumbass thing. Like calling me mafia due to what a fucking flipped scum (who claimed scum) said? Which minus the Agenda with SL, prob. was just spewing wIfom? Like literally, he tried to make us think that 2 fucking scum team exist and other shit. and you are going to listen to him? Like if you honestly think i am scum (and if you think I am Sk, then you have not been paying attention. We know there is a RC), look at the Night kills (after Kuru, where I would be supposedly alone), look at them and tell me i would do something so fucking dumb as kill 3rd party roles such as SK, survivor, and LS vs the blue roles, Koshi, or anyone else for that matter. Like i am getting flash backs to my lynch in noir, where everyone is convinced (by some reason) that i am a scum god or w/e and would do the most craziest things ever. I might think outside the box, but i am not dumb. If i am by myself, i would 100% of the time shoot the doc here, even if i think he self heals, due to his role description. I would kill scott as well, because he has played with me as scum, and i can get away with it. If you want to lynch me for not being Emo and not BMing (which ironically, I am doing here) and supposedly because i would force my team mates to call me a "Monkey named Bombuzied" then go ahead. Cause us the game, or cause it to go into LYLO or whatever if there is one scum. I will continue rereading the game at my pace, and what not. I will fight to not potentially lose the game for town, but I am going to focus more on analyzing the last 7 days of in game content and give out my opinion then just failing around here. | ||
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Page 46 Also sorry for going preach mode here. Just tired of Koshi this game. Litteraly just said what i found sus. in him (which other people at the time were talking about, and i felt that i might just be paranoid, so i wanted to share it) and he goes OMGUS mode and just finds everything he can talk about to scum read me on. | ||
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On April 13 2016 00:03 Koshi wrote: I can also lynch Shape for that ridiculous post about him not being the monkey pet. ![[image loading]](https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6f14z5D5P1qcwic6.gif) | ||
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On April 13 2016 00:56 Koshi wrote: I might be a walrus. But I didn't type a 500 word essay on how unfair the world is when being called mafia for this joke post: Was it really 500 words? Damm. | ||
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On April 13 2016 02:03 Koshi wrote: Is there any chance we get access to the observer thread or something? Lol, How much do you wanna bet that Obs peeps got this shit figure out, and are yelling at us right now? | ||
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On April 13 2016 02:14 Koshi wrote: Real talk, best 3 reasons why somebody is mafia: Obi - For hesitating on the TT lynch - Grey during first days - PoE kinda Shape - Was only be really out there on the Kurumi lynch, other lynches way less vocal (I R sad that obi couldn't deliver proof) - Could be pet monkey - Said the nk was made by a dumbass. Damdred: - Should be RIP - Uninvolved a bit after the TT lynch for 2-3 days - Should be RIP Scott: - Should be RIP - I am not RIP? - I can't find a good 3rd reason is the last reason. On April 13 2016 03:30 scott31337 wrote: Real talk, best 3 reasons why somebody is mafia: Obi - Hasn't been helpful beyond a bit of a push on the TT lynch - Goes with thread sentiment instead of actual thinking Shape - Has had some towny thoughts - but his case on Kurumi has been his moment - Should be RIP over LS - Earlier d1/d2 dead townies had suspicions of him Damdred: - Should be RIP two days+ ago - His saves really do not add up, Mafia could have done 2kp on JAT and then say he saved JAT - Complicated role he didn't even give the name of, only did in parts - after n4 didn't bother announcing his save at the end of night, like it doesn't matter - stopped saving shapelog Koshi: - Voting has been really bad except for Kurumi - Pushed mislynches or yells about mislynches like TW, but not about VA To avoid beating of a dead horse, I am going to add on my opions. Obi: - Can't remember a single post from him that shows content at all. First thing that comes to mind is the: Woah, everyone is sheeping meh posts. *Off topic, but in cell, people called him hard to read, and he responded by doing posts. Should prob. check this. Koshi: -Only getting Townread from me cuz of Koshi Meta. -Over 40 pages of filter, Nothing really in partiuclar that I heavily like as far as content wise -Stop the Read lists, Sadly. really doesn't make him scum, just wished he didn't. Made it so much easier to find his train of thought. -My paranoid about him. Damdred: -Really do not understand why this guy hasn't been healing scott tbh. I also think (IIRC) that he was also one of the ones who jumped on the last mafia = RC first, so it should of been a save on scott. Maybe due to him being sus. for scott? But he also have argue all game that 7/8 blues make sense and that is the ball range we are in right now. -Rels had to be killed by both mafia and SK. Since Sk has been dead for some time, and only 1 KP exists. You could maybe tinfoil that he is scum, and did this to suggest a 2ndparty scum/2Kp scum, which fits into the crap of what Kuru was spewing. Scott: - Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote: I don't get how people can scum read me for being alive to long. I honestly have thought Scott's possible mafia for a long time so I should,never protect him. Its a fact kp is missing n1 no other way around it. We know vivax blocked leap where are the otgers? I claimed a protect on hat basically d2 anyone who reads my filtering see the softs If you think I'm scum you have to think that I somehow blackmailed palmar into posting in thread about a miscommunication around my power which I get notified of. Even though he could of just explained in scum at if I'm scum. I helped lead shenanigans onto Tt instead of just lynching tumble. If you think I'm scum you also have to say I killed every single person who was town reading me or didn't want to lynch me this game meh. Eh, your prob. right about that one line, and i am just being dumb about the whole "Should of healed X" thing. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:23 Damdred wrote: Like today is super important and idk Obi and shape both annoy me right now. Blah idk Scott annoys Mr less because palmar promised more big before game to and he's putting in some effort. Damdred, Where is my vote right now? | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:37 Koshi wrote: All town need to be on the same target. seconded | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:49 Damdred wrote: I think it's just Obi and if not and it's shape or koshi they played really well this game over all. And I deserve all the criticism I'm sure is in obs. So gl on making the right call shape if your town. Yes, Leave what protentically is the end to a game to someone who has anxiety disorder... | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:55 Koshi wrote: But if mafia is truly solo and knew about the sl his role, why did they wait so long to kill him? First Superbia and then sl. I can't see the logic. And then LS, who was going to be the lynch. So dumb... Especially after the claim from him.... I mean we did not know what Forensic Annalist was (we knew it was invest, but did not know what kind) and engi. was cast off as a random role. Mafia could of claim and prob. lynch SL, and have a bunch of cred. But yet they didn't | ||
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On April 13 2016 08:44 Damdred wrote: The forensic I bet was a coroner type role that showed what the flips actually were. Idk what a Coroner is, but maybe that is possible. | ||
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On April 14 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote: Okay, let's do this. Shapelog what do you think? Damdred? I'm pretty sure I know what's going to happen. Let us see. You will be missed koshi. Mafia (or w/e the fuck is in this game) the last few days, have littlerly pick the worse targets to kill. Now, instead of killing one of you 2 (which mafia has to be one of yall), they have killed LS, Koshi, etc. and not the other, in this case, legit blue. When, as long as the KP gets through to the other role, they would be the only blue role left, and could coast and win. Which one of yall, Really don't fucking have a clue. I know Koshi called you suppose 3rd party, so the NK also slightly suggests you. | ||
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On April 15 2016 03:57 scott31337 wrote: I was thinking about it last night - I'm still in Vegas, I should be driving home tonight. so I've been in two LYLO'S as town - Firefly and Guardians. Guardians was my first one, Damdred was in that game as well. I've never been in a LYLO as mafia. I have a strong feeling I'm going to the victim for the third time. + Show Spoiler [Don't read] + In the wise words of Palmar, this turns into - the puppet, the puppetmaster, and the victim. I got a Quickdraw PM in my replacement message I've learned a lot from those two games as town. The first thing would be that even if you are town and know who the mafia is since they go after you - acting 100% that you know the puppetmaster is mafia looks mafia sided to the puppet, because they'll be like "Why are you so sure? it could be me too if you're town, right?" but from your own point of view, it's obvious. I don't want to make that mistake again. The second thing would be is to just re-look over everything, including both filters from the others and re-read parts of the game and figure out intentions from days before - since this day is going to be a lot different. + Show Spoiler [Damdred's list] + On April 09 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote: Right now Ows look at this, why should I 100% know what to do? This game is incredibly hard Ows- weak town feels, technically is the hammer on Tt putting him one over Tt. On the verge of death didn't care about being,lynched. I don't think,he's scum. LS- been low impact, but does work when as scythe wouldn't. Dug through my filter to show how I was pushing Tt when people were starting to gain momentum. Scott- claimed blue, slam bread crumbed the shot very well. It is a poor shot, small activity but cent be the mafia in a solo situation. VA- super lackluster first 4 days didn't care. Suddenly cares after the tumble lynch hasn't done a lot since the Ritojy lynch. Kinda meh on him. Koshi- mafia were on him and tumble. Sudden swing on Tt makes it somewhat unlikely with how suddenly it was and how many town was on Tt that koshi was the scum. Plus his activity and craziness and bm make him town. Shaoe- early game was bad and missed a lot of what he was. Was super right after then and seems to be hyper focused on lynch bait ls. Its possible he was tmi, which is why I'm considering him. Damdred- claimed blue, can't be a single scum. Can't be scum with Scott, mod message infers he's town. Etc etc I'm a dayvig. Beyond Alakaslam's shot being townie, I'd have to be a rolecop and a dayvig in order to be mafia, which is basically impossible. The only other possibility is that the engineer had a role check night 1 and checked sicklucker. I could re-write others words but best explained as- On April 07 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote: scott is never mafia btw. I forgot about the fact it was a silent shot on D1. Imagine mafia shooting someone the first second of the game for lulz. Scot is setup wise confirmed town. HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT THINKING OF SHIT LIKE THIS And in your words - Scott: - Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia. I'll be back in a bit. What is the point of telling me to reread things, if you are just going to cite things to tell that I should trust you (both my words and others)? After ranting about a puppetmaster lol. | ||
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On April 15 2016 05:55 Damdred wrote: Hey first time I've been on in a day or so. Things went for the worst and well I'm sorry I didn't save koshi tbh. Anyway my first thought is that shape as town shouldn't need to ask me or Scott where we stand. Yesterday he said I'm 100% confirmed because of mod message and amount of blues etc. It seems like instead of reaching to find a reason to scum read us or one of us (by his past posts it should just be Scott here) he is waiting to see how the tide turns if we will turn on each other and he can just pick who he wants to lynch. That's ny first thought. As for Scott he is at least doing work so as of now I am not inclined to lynch him. Him digging through past games and his post with that quote really reminds me. Also just the sheer number of blues is pretty believable. As of now shape is my pick for scum and I'm voting him. I also said similar things about scott yesterday. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 2 3rd parties: SK(?), and Survivor (?) (using KP now as a guide, since we know that there is one scum) 4 mafia: we know that they had: Engi, goon, doc, RC (depending if RC was engi)/ X 6 blues, of those blues we got at least 1 invest role (engi/frosenics), the other. 1 doc, 1 vig (mutishot), W/e the fuck Drill Sargent was. And one of nerf Doc/day Vig 9 Vt's. That means there are 2 set ups here: Mafia: Engi (RC), goon, Doc, Day vig Blue: Forensics expert (?). Engi (rc), Doc, Vig (mutishoot), nerf doc, Drill Sergeant(?) or Mafia: engi, goon, doc, Rc Blue: Forensics Expert (?), Engi (?), Doc, Vig (mutishot), Day vig D1, Drill Sergeant (?) Engineer could actually be RC. hmmm. It is kinda ignoring that we cannot clarified anything. Day 1 KP: Vivax blocks Kuru (mafia KP) Stutter by Sand ??? By super (Sk kp.) Maybe another KP onto SL. JaT was to be hit, according to Damdred. Hmmm. Either can go either way. Day 2 KP: Vivax NK by ??? JAT NK by ??? Rsoul NK by ??? None of those make really any-sense tbh. Maybe there was a extra KP that i do not see here. Maybe mafia had 2 KP (3/2 Rounded up)? Rsoul had to die either by her role, or by Super. (unless, another 3rd party exists :0) hmmm... | ||
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So the reason I am town reading Damdred, is not even to do with what he has done, it is to do with Palmar. On April 03 2016 02:45 Palmar wrote: Announcement: Due to language barrier, Damdred had a misunderstanding with my co-host. I understand it sucks that this is part of the game, but the best solution I can think of is to announce it and simply carry on. which makes him 100% town IMO | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:41 Damdred wrote: No you agreed I was 100% mod confirmed yesterday, no way I should ever be scum yo you What was this too again? | ||
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On April 16 2016 00:04 Damdred wrote: You just said you said yesterday that Scott was confirmed. Scott makes way more sense as town with a day vig. Basically the scum team had a silent shot but decided to hard crumb it and get tons of attention? why is Scott scum shape Oh yeah! Sorry I am balancing This, work, and other things right now. So i lose my train of thought I think I brought up how that play could be made by scum, way back on D1. If not then it was later on. Early on, I fought on the other side though. But now I realize something. Basically, Knowing Slam (as a coach-student relationship) he could easily done that. I prob. would of done that too tbh. First off, if you do not claim then, you never can claim it later. Period. Town would jump onto the fact you didn't do so. So instead, You hard crumb it, you make it so obv. that it exists. And after the shoot, you basically just spew the role. And then that gets run into this, which is what you did. If you survive, then boom. You insistently get the cred from it. And all you have to do is coast and win. Also, remember that post about shooting Rsoul if he could change. We, unless we are missing something, he could of changed it. thinking back, (and now for sure, knowing that Rsoul was mafia), it was a distending move. It could even explain why Kuru felt so fine claiming scum and dieing. He also is activating differently then he did in XIX (he was vet that game, and confirmed). In that game he really didn't do all this effort or anything, even when the lynch target (PMT) was iffy between her and MA. This one feels way more active. A course, I don't know w/e the fuck is scott scum meta. Rels also had some sus. of him when he died as well. Which lines with your protection. (Yet also he did we me like you said) | ||
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On April 16 2016 01:00 Damdred wrote: While rels did suspect him he also suspected you as being a try hard scum herr meh I know, that is exactly what I just said. On April 16 2016 03:32 scott31337 wrote: Well if you are town, then this would be the case Or your scum. Am town though. Be pretty stupid if i am scum and decided to go into Lylo with 2 blue roles (from that POV) | ||
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On April 15 2016 03:57 scott31337 wrote: I was thinking about it last night - I'm still in Vegas, I should be driving home tonight. so I've been in two LYLO'S as town - Firefly and Guardians. Guardians was my first one, Damdred was in that game as well. I've never been in a LYLO as mafia. I have a strong feeling I'm going to the victim for the third time. + Show Spoiler [Don't read] + In the wise words of Palmar, this turns into - the puppet, the puppetmaster, and the victim. I got a Quickdraw PM in my replacement message I've learned a lot from those two games as town. The first thing would be that even if you are town and know who the mafia is since they go after you - acting 100% that you know the puppetmaster is mafia looks mafia sided to the puppet, because they'll be like "Why are you so sure? it could be me too if you're town, right?" but from your own point of view, it's obvious. I don't want to make that mistake again. The second thing would be is to just re-look over everything, including both filters from the others and re-read parts of the game and figure out intentions from days before - since this day is going to be a lot different. + Show Spoiler [Damdred's list] + On April 09 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote: Right now Ows look at this, why should I 100% know what to do? This game is incredibly hard Ows- weak town feels, technically is the hammer on Tt putting him one over Tt. On the verge of death didn't care about being,lynched. I don't think,he's scum. LS- been low impact, but does work when as scythe wouldn't. Dug through my filter to show how I was pushing Tt when people were starting to gain momentum. Scott- claimed blue, slam bread crumbed the shot very well. It is a poor shot, small activity but cent be the mafia in a solo situation. VA- super lackluster first 4 days didn't care. Suddenly cares after the tumble lynch hasn't done a lot since the Ritojy lynch. Kinda meh on him. Koshi- mafia were on him and tumble. Sudden swing on Tt makes it somewhat unlikely with how suddenly it was and how many town was on Tt that koshi was the scum. Plus his activity and craziness and bm make him town. Shaoe- early game was bad and missed a lot of what he was. Was super right after then and seems to be hyper focused on lynch bait ls. Its possible he was tmi, which is why I'm considering him. Damdred- claimed blue, can't be a single scum. Can't be scum with Scott, mod message infers he's town. Etc etc I'm a dayvig. Beyond Alakaslam's shot being townie, I'd have to be a rolecop and a dayvig in order to be mafia, which is basically impossible. The only other possibility is that the engineer had a role check night 1 and checked sicklucker. I could re-write others words but best explained as- And in your words - Scott: - Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia. I'll be back in a bit. On April 15 2016 04:24 scott31337 wrote: I'm re-reading those games for more clues and things I can work on. "damdred 06-14-2015 05:52 PM ET (US) Scott and oneg would of killed me and 've before now. Like it shows a complete lack of knowledge about us." You're right I mean just look from the posts earlier from this cycle. and half of the big post was just him telling me why i should trust him. A point I made that he just ignored here: On April 15 2016 23:08 Shapelog wrote: What is the point of telling me to reread things, if you are just going to cite things to tell that I should trust you (both my words and others)? After ranting about a puppetmaster lol. And now, instead of looking into things or anything: On April 16 2016 04:34 scott31337 wrote: I have to head to the store - I'm placing my vote on shape for now. | ||
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On April 15 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote: Before I continue much more, if Scott is mafia he really doesn't have many choices in this situation. If he's scum he kept someone in lylo who has said oh shitdamdred is confirmed town, so he has already lost one vote to him. He knows I'm super suspicious of him already and am always semi scum reading him so leaves him in a super precarious situation where his only solution is to go after Damdred hard and convince shape I'm not confirmed. Or he has to shred days of work and go after shape and try to convince me who has been super suspicious of him so much so I haven't even protected him at all all game. Just doesn't seem like a winning solution to me. But I'm back to shapes filter and then to Scott's to see what's there If shapelog is scum, he doesn't have much choices either. But scum shape would also be: | ||
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On April 16 2016 05:35 Damdred wrote: I'm here don't worry. Scott really need you to take me through switching your vote. Also Scott why was my posting better than obis? Shape you were casing super right when we lynched tumble right Yes, Tumble did nothing In my opinion at the time that change my read on him. (Meta) | ||
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On April 16 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: God though if you got me after a scummy vote from Scott I'm go I mg n to,be salty I will display to you, just how town I am. ![[image loading]](http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnm2quJy8w1qj724n.gif) I swear that I am town. #Inthistogether | ||
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On April 16 2016 06:41 scott31337 wrote: Damdred bought it - I knew he'd get me to be the victim after a while I am every time. I just wish I could've put it in a spoiler I could point out later.... Shape was scaring me when he wasn't doing any posting until later today. I had it all thought up in Vegas sitting on my bed.You ready to win this Shape? I was at the doctors for my last post op. appointment yesterday.... and here you are again, 's everywhere. | ||
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On April 16 2016 06:47 scott31337 wrote: Back from the store, $300 later. I had to pull out enough to get you to scumread Shape instead of me with that magic post. It worked. Now you are just trying to find the weakest reason to switch your vote. I didn't vote first, you did. <3 Shape you still here? Yes..... Are you done admitting to being scum? | ||
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United States5184 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
The lone survivor of the expedition was found wandering through the desert. Shapelog will definitely be the hero this country needs to rally around in face of an open rebellion and supernatural threats. He will be of course be promoted to an important advisory role within the military. Our hearts and thoughts are with the families of those who died in the third storm. This could of only have ended one way..... What the government never realized is that Shapelog was himself a member of the rebellion. Having set himself up in a high ranking position within the military he immediately started sabotaging the government and spying for the rebels. The government fell only a month after Shapelog's arrival from the desert. He was some kind of a hero, but not for the good citizens of the country... Yup... Saw that coming. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
Tis hope that Comrade Palmar will post the links to the QT's And answer my fucking question about what rank damdred is. Literally been asking him for like 2 days now. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
I don't blame damdred for it. Lylo are hectic enough, and when someone does that, it really gets confusing. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On April 16 2016 07:32 ritoky wrote: idk i am more results oriented than most so i can't necessarily call what shape did in lylo bad, but i really think he could have steamrolled the phase. literally nothing was posted for the first 24ish hours of the phase. if shape had just spamlorded fake work into that i think he rolls the phase. Yeah I could of. That is also my jam hehe. Dumb doctor appointments. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
I checked Jat n2, VT I checked Super n3, Tentacle. Koshi OWS Scott Damdred. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
http://quicktopic.com/52/H/HDGBMg456EPjp Some really cool stuff in there. Good laughs too. Like the time i forgot TT was on our team and might or might not lynched him. + Show Spoiler [Onto other things] + Can I get my nomination (s) now? Hate to be that person, but that case was cool. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On April 16 2016 08:06 sicklucker wrote: shape you certainly killed me one cycle too early. It was very obvious I was mafia siding and you didnt know I even had kp after supers flip. For all you knew I was a solo survivor and thats the story I was going with so you wasted your kp there and ended up in lylo with two confirmed towns. Gj tho All According to plan. | ||
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you are going to make not breaking the rules really damned hard. ![[image loading]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/20/...4759375624.jpg)
