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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 13:00 GMT
#2815
Votes recap colored with flips

Use these if you need to check stuff on votes.

Day 1 final vote
+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final vote] +

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood


Day 2 final vote
+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final vote] +

Tictock (9): Vivax, LightningStrike, Shapelog, Rels, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood
Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood, sicklucker
rsoultin (2): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog, Tumblewood, Vivax
Tumblewood (2): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, Tictock, rsoultin
Kurumi (0): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
Tictock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 13:00 GMT
#2816
On March 29 2016 21:59 Damdred wrote:
Your reads were really bare bones that seemed like they came from nothing.


So you don't know why they were in the town category ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 13:40 GMT
#2824
What you're saying makes a lot of sense. But I have a very hard time seeing Koshi as scum with all the posts he made since deadline, especially since lots of people, me included, were starting to consider him a kinda auto lynch the day after. It's quantity and it's also his implication to solve the game and its humour.
Like, he kinda rolled over and die in star wars when several players started to consider him a likely scum. It's 100% the opposite here.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:01 GMT
#2834
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

Reading Koshi's filter before EOD2, do you think think JAT pushing him makes sense or not ?
JAT changed his mind after EOD2. Do you see a difference between Koshi's posting before EOD2 and after it ? Do you think JAT changing his mind is logical ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:13 GMT
#2843
On March 29 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

Reading Koshi's filter before EOD2, do you think think JAT pushing him makes sense or not ?
JAT changed his mind after EOD2. Do you see a difference between Koshi's posting before EOD2 and after it ? Do you think JAT changing his mind is logical ?


it's really his only option, after that flip koshi as mafia makes zero sense especially considering his posting after deadline.

Multiple people tried to get him to explain how this was anywhere near his mafia meta but he couldn't. So it's just was he super butthurt or genuinely trying to shit up the thread arguing with koshi.

Do you still want to lynch rsoultin for circlejerk & info ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:31 GMT
#2859
About sandroba:
On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do?

This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game.
He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.

This post + his claim on shooting someone scum would like to keep to mislynch makes him 99% town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:35 GMT
#2863
On March 29 2016 23:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:
About sandroba:
On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:
On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do?

This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game.
He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.

This post + his claim on shooting someone scum would like to keep to mislynch makes him 99% town.


I call bull. It's a super easy post to make as mafia, why are you so gullible?

No. Sandroba sees Kuru claiming a vig shot and instead of attacking him with like "CANT BE TRUE THAT WOULD MEAN TWO VIGS ARE IN THE GAME" like he could do easily, he's trying to trap him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:36 GMT
#2865
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:37 GMT
#2868
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:38 GMT
#2871
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:42 GMT
#2876
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:47 GMT
#2879
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:50 GMT
#2886
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:51 GMT
#2888
sandroba have you played with Koshi before ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:52 GMT
#2892
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

This is not a reason p: can you quote your reasons for thinking Tumble is scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 15:00 GMT
#2904
On March 29 2016 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:51 Vivax wrote:
JAT is completely avoiding TT cause he wants to lynch Koshi so badly.
Superbia is avoiding TT.
Rels is avoiding TT.
Kurumi is avoiding TT.

...I think.


And btw these are guys who were rather silent while the shenannies started building up. I was actively looking for people not really commenting on me and Damdred trying to move people to TT. Rels voted at some point but I think afterwards.

I came back to the thread 1 hour before deadline. TT was the last of my 3 filter reads and I voted him after I finished it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 15:01 GMT
#2905
On March 29 2016 23:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
[quote]
How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
[quote]
If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

This is not a reason p: can you quote your reasons for thinking Tumble is scum


It's somewhere. Something gut with some logic attached.

OK then from the top of your head why is Tumble scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 15:08 GMT
#2912
On March 30 2016 00:05 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 00:01 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:58 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Seems like OMGUS to me then.
[quote]
OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

This is not a reason p: can you quote your reasons for thinking Tumble is scum


It's somewhere. Something gut with some logic attached.

OK then from the top of your head why is Tumble scum ?


- Passive bystander on gumshoe train.
- Posted some things d1 but nothing worth remembering (a trend throughout the game, doesn't seem to want anything to happen).
- Scum-claim ~30m pre-game. Then doesn't show up at start of day. When he does show up he is instantly serious.

What do you mean "passive bystander" ? He's been scumread for the exact opposite by rsoul actually. He commited to "gumshoe is lynchbait, one of the guy pushing him is scum":
On March 24 2016 12:29 Tumblewood wrote:
Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more lynchbait-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 15:46 GMT
#2924
On March 30 2016 00:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:
On March 30 2016 00:05 Superbia wrote:
On March 30 2016 00:01 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:58 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

This is not a reason p: can you quote your reasons for thinking Tumble is scum


It's somewhere. Something gut with some logic attached.

OK then from the top of your head why is Tumble scum ?


- Passive bystander on gumshoe train.
- Posted some things d1 but nothing worth remembering (a trend throughout the game, doesn't seem to want anything to happen).
- Scum-claim ~30m pre-game. Then doesn't show up at start of day. When he does show up he is instantly serious.

What do you mean "passive bystander" ? He's been scumread for the exact opposite by rsoul actually. He commited to "gumshoe is lynchbait, one of the guy pushing him is scum":
On March 24 2016 12:29 Tumblewood wrote:
Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more lynchbait-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum.



"superbia pls gif reason from top of your head"
->
"WOW REASON 4c IS SHIT BECAUSE OF THIS EXACT QUOTE"

In my mind he was not actively participating in the argument with, and surrounding gumshoe. He did not seem to want to head in any direction. Hence I have him mentally noted down as passive bystander.

Well either you have reasons to scumread him or you have not. So since I can safely ignore the first reason since it's false, the last 2 are old and not getting into account what he did since EOD1. In fact here is where you explain your reasons to scumread Tumble in your fitler:
On March 24 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Forgot about tumblewood guy so let's give him a scum-lean as well.

On March 25 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 22:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 25 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
Everyone sticks around to see their role PM if you're around at that point, and if you roll town I expect you to make a witty remark after your pre-game scum claim.


And what would you expect from him as mafia?


Something like this? :p

Like what is your mindset before you start the game? Especially if you post a pre-game mafia claim? It's the mindset of fucking around, right? But tumblewood just vanishes and then starts off straight up serious.

Early D1 and late D1. Since then, there is no other reason to scumread Tumble, there is only the fact that Tumble is in your lynch list several times. And you just said you were OK with a Tumble lynch but you interacted with him that way EOD2:
On March 29 2016 06:20 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:17 ritoky wrote:
On March 29 2016 06:02 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky wutu think bout these wagons?


i think my opinion on rsoul has been pretty clear. it has softened a bit....not sure if to the point where she's anywhere near my town, but to the point where i am willing to consider seeing what she does/claims to do with the item and re-assess again after.

koshi i said was my yolo lynch, but that's like 30% omgus, 70% when he started yelling at me it didn't feel like full fledged town koshi rage. but i think those are pretty bad reasons tbh.

tumblewood....does anyone think he is town? i don't. he is kinda LHF, but i don't think there's particularly anything in his filter that makes me think he is town.

i think looking at the votes currently, i am vastly more comfortable with the people on tumble and koshi than on rsoul...i only think me and sl are town on rsoul which is pretty sketch....i also am not enthralled by the non-voters. i might move my vote, not exactly sure where yet......

as a side note, rels having a case against him and being afk the entire phase but getting 0 lynch traction reinforces my belief that there is a strong likelihood he is mafia.


I think rels is likely never VT. But I'm not entirely sure, usually his mafia game is pretty strong.

The fact that the tumblewood wagon formed so quickly despite the fact that multiple people soft defended him d1 makes me meh. I'd rather lynch koshi and see where his flip leads us.

On March 29 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:39 Tumblewood wrote:
I can be on from now until a minute before deadline. I didn't vote Koshi, so the vote count is wrong. I will answer anything that I can do on a phone.


Who is mafia on your wagon?

Also vote Koshi.

So:
He answered that last question of yours and you didn't react to his answer. Apparently it was scummy since he's your most likely scum besides Koshi ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 17:09 GMT
#2945
I don't think JAT is scum. OK he didn't listen to your read on Superbia but I agree with him finding you scummy D2. I would have voted you if TT wasn't there. And I could be wrong but I think he's OK lynching ritoky. We'll see how he handles Superbia once he comes back now that he thinks you're town.
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