TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 6

sandroba

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March 30 2016 00:26 GMT

#3271

Like tumble made an extremelly confident va and tt mafia read based on very little time invested as well. Same as his rels read is extremelly confident based on something dumb rels said about kurumi.
Tumble attacking me when I was attacking the person he said was mafia and the case against her he said "was too perfect to be true" is exactly the kind of hypocrisy he pulled off last game, which he quickly back pedaled when I called him out on it.
I'm thinking scum team went into full bus mode ytd.

sandroba

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March 30 2016 00:31 GMT

#3275

Rels I think is also trying to call me mafia for quite some time, but never grew the balls to actually do it.
besides the assossiation shit, these 3 also fit the mode of not doing anything, just like TT and rsoul.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 00:34 GMT

#3278

okay how likely it is that both scummers just delurk at the same time when called out. maybe one of you is town?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 00:41 GMT

#3284

meh i might be wrong about va upon rereading his filter. prob just rels and tumble.

sandroba

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March 30 2016 00:42 GMT

#3285

yo ls + sl let's lynch rels with me without posting any case whatsoever

sandroba

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March 30 2016 00:54 GMT

#3289

On March 30 2016 09:49 Tumblewood wrote:

[*] asking a lot of meaningless questions (actually a pretty good reason)

?
I would think a townie would argue here that his questions were not useless?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 01:02 GMT

#3292

@va why isn't tumble scum anymore?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 01:05 GMT

#3293

@tumble please explain and exemplify your strong town read on rels.
Also when you asked those questions didn't you have any intent behind them? Why do you think your questions were subpar?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 01:08 GMT

#3294

On March 30 2016 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
just seems like an OMGUS disguised as a case tbh. I don't really have anything to say beyond that since I dont think you're scum anymore.

I think you said came to the realisation assossiation reads were bad this game twice by now. I'm hoping there is something of substance behind your change of read.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 01:12 GMT

#3298

On March 30 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
sandroba do you accept my apology for calling you a stupid ass monkey?

lol i do, i didn't take any offense on it, just found it random.

sandroba

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March 30 2016 01:17 GMT

#3299

On March 30 2016 10:10 sicklucker wrote:

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i like obi alot better .they basicly played the same but rels voted TT alot earlier

nah, i got a tone read on obi that says he is prob town.

sandroba

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March 30 2016 01:27 GMT

#3300

On March 30 2016 10:17 sandroba wrote:

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nah, i got a tone read on obi that says he is prob town.

really, why do you even think ows is mafa? did you even read his filter?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 03:01 GMT

#3309

On March 30 2016 11:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred Sand got a question for you.

i do?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 03:06 GMT

#3312

i do
and on tumble and on vayne.
damdy is almost confirmed town in my mind though, so only for imput.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 03:20 GMT

#3314

On March 30 2016 12:14 ritoky wrote:
idk about rels being mafia....i mean i read him mafia and my reads have been pretty good so far.....but like half the mafia team going all-in on just spamming "ritoky is mafia" and not much else doesn't seem like a winning strat....

wtf ritoky, worst reasoning ever. do you honestly think how a group of people read you in particular has any importance on wether someone is mafia on not.
come on

sandroba

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March 30 2016 04:29 GMT

#3329

On March 30 2016 12:23 ritoky wrote:
i mean you're calling tumble mafia, but not koshi after how the vote went last phase which don't make much sense to me. we are both using questionable metrics here.

pretty sure every dead mafia has called me mafia, so it seems like its not the worst.

well vivax was pretty sure koshi was town, as most people are. Maybe he roleblocked kurumi or something?
and yes, every mafia also typed words in the thread, I don't think that should be a metric for anything. Also if it is a metric that should make you question rels even more not go "every dead mafia called me scum -> probably not every mafia is calling me scum -> rels prob town". See how stupid this sounds?

sandroba

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March 30 2016 04:30 GMT

#3330

On March 30 2016 12:28 ritoky wrote:
i am still stuck on what the hell rsoul's plan was supposed to be.......i mean it is entirely possible she just lied about her role and how it works.....but what's her plan there.

if damdred is mafia with her -> gives explanation why damdred keeps living through phases, since "mafia is afraid to shoot the vest"

if damdred is town -> "i gave damdred a vest" -> "uhhh, no you didn't" -> "guess i was roleblocked guys!" -> get lynched

it is very confusing to me right now.

possible. but damdred claimed medic, so he will get shot in the night if he town. if he is still alive 2 days from now prob lynch. 'till then treat him as town.

sandroba

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March 30 2016 04:38 GMT

#3331

On March 30 2016 13:15 Tumblewood wrote:

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On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:

On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:

On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is).

The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias?

On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:

On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.

I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting.

Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in.

On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.

Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.

Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.

I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...

For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...

WOW
This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT
Never lynching

This is the quote for which I originally read him town. The tone felt off but I liked the content enough to townread him for it, and I believe it still stands.
I was looking for more evidence of him being townie but holy shit look at this

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If I see one more post this bad I'm reconsidering.

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Tone still off but content still great. He's also asking questions trying to get people to clarify their positions (e.g., "Is this a current read?"), which comes off as town trying to make sure scum can't weasel out of their stances.
2. They were too arbitrary-- I wasn't considering the possible responses as much as the questions, so I wouldn't know why the information would be helpful.

I mean dude, he was right on top of your list because of that random comment about kurumi, which isn't even particularly accurate or good. I don't buy your reads, and you seem to admit you didn't put much thought into them either. That quote from rels is from day1 and I even pointed out how bad it was, but I don't think you would know that because I don't think you are reading the thread closely, you are just grabbing tidbits here and there and making up shallow reads. Not like a townie plays.
Rels is indeed asking some questions but he never follows up. He asked me a couple and never followed up or derived any conclusions from them.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 04:40 GMT

#3332

On March 30 2016 13:14 ritoky wrote:

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mafia had to save rsoul to some degree on this day; there's no way they just let a red PR go down for free on d1 when there is reasonable doubt being shown. we have 2 confirmed red and neither was a vote to save rsoul.

the living people who voted to save her are OWS, kuru, koshi, rels, LS, and damd

damd claimed doctor and since no1 else has said shit i am just assuming kurumi had shot refunded and shot rsoul. making them both extremely likely town.

that list becomes OWS, LS, rels, koshi. probably 2 mafia in that list of 4.

out of those 4 I think only rels is mafia currently. 1 mafia prob bussed d1 and there is prob more in the group of non voters.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 04:45 GMT

#3333

Basically if people are right on ls and koshi being town those 3 I mentioned are the best fit. And @ritoky okay we will wait for allergies, but you are popping in quickly and fucking off quite a lot this game. At some point people will start to suspect it.

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