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On March 29 2016 21:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT. Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that? Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway? SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately. Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe. Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill. Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this? I think you're super scummy now
If you are refering to this I chose to ignore it because it's dumb.
kurumi says he lost bullet. I have no opinion on that. I think it's plausible. He ask hosts - do i have bullet? - no. what opinion do i need on that?
rsoultin questioned - i did ask w/e happened to item, i commented that she didn't tell us shit. It's night, I can't persuade he to do anything.
I didn't say sl is vet, but i do think he is, what does that have to do with anything. He could be vet no? you were the one pulling stuff out of your ass saying one of the vigis is mafia, when it's more likely they are all town. sure maybe even the other 2 vigis are mafia, but I have no reason to believe so.
why koshi thing is the easiest explanation - Because it is
why anyone claim they saved koshi. dunno, the fact is, it is hard to imagine a town doc saving koshi, mafia shooting him, he surviving and mafia coming into the thread saying that the vig'd him and he didn't die, especially with only one flip which came from a town vigi.
I get that you don't think koshi is scum because he is spamming the thread, but there are only 3 options:
kurumi is mafia fake claiming - this would be pretty random, he had no pressure on him to claim anything, if we lynched koshi and he flipped town kurumi would prob be next
mafia roleblocked kurumi - maybe this is the case, I don't find it likely as I believe quite a bit of blues were a bit exposed (especially true if rsoul is town, mafia knew she was prob blue)
koshi is mafia and saved by mafia doc - makes sense, TT is flipped mafia doc and they didn't want to lynch each other. koshi was admitedly not behaving acording to his town meta.
Doesn't matter how much koshi spams the thread, facts are facts.
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On March 29 2016 23:51 Rels wrote:
sandroba have you played with Koshi before ?
Yes, last game he was town. Pobably a lot of games prior to that, but he changed quite a bit from what I remember.
And I do think that NOW his behavior looks like his behavior last game, but that wasn't true until eod.
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On March 30 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 23:48 sandroba wrote:On March 29 2016 21:38 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT. Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that? Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway? SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately. Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe. On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill. Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this? I think you're super scummy now If you are refering to this I chose to ignore it because it's dumb. kurumi says he lost bullet. I have no opinion on that. I think it's plausible. He ask hosts - do i have bullet? - no. what opinion do i need on that? rsoultin questioned - i did ask w/e happened to item, i commented that she didn't tell us shit. It's night, I can't persuade he to do anything. I didn't say sl is vet, but i do think he is, what does that have to do with anything. He could be vet no? you were the one pulling stuff out of your ass saying one of the vigis is mafia, when it's more likely they are all town. sure maybe even the other 2 vigis are mafia, but I have no reason to believe so. why koshi thing is the easiest explanation - Because it is why anyone claim they saved koshi. dunno, the fact is, it is hard to imagine a town doc saving koshi, mafia shooting him, he surviving and mafia coming into the thread saying that the vig'd him and he didn't die, especially with only one flip which came from a town vigi. I get that you don't think koshi is scum because he is spamming the thread, but there are only 3 options: kurumi is mafia fake claiming - this would be pretty random, he had no pressure on him to claim anything, if we lynched koshi and he flipped town kurumi would prob be next mafia roleblocked kurumi - maybe this is the case, I don't find it likely as I believe quite a bit of blues were a bit exposed (especially true if rsoul is town, mafia knew she was prob blue) koshi is mafia and saved by mafia doc - makes sense, TT is flipped mafia doc and they didn't want to lynch each other. koshi was admitedly not behaving acording to his town meta. Doesn't matter how much koshi spams the thread, facts are facts. You're dumb and bad and scummy. Now we're even and I can talk. Did you fact check if bullet gets refunded? No, scum points for you. You lack suspicion of the other vig and don''t for example go ask for yourself if bullet gets refunded, You.Just.Don't.Care. Well then if you did already ask everything and see nothing left why would you say "Yes yes rsoultin needs to be questioned". Clearly you had nothing concrete in mind and just talked out of your butt. Why do you think SL is vet without any evidence, without looking at how he plays? And why do you base your entire read on Koshi on his activity and Kurumi's alignment? All your reads are just from claims which is also scummy cause they're super easy to make,
Explain to me vivax, how can i fact check is bullets get refunded when my shot went through. Palmar does not offer information randomly to people just because they can shoot. You can yourself pm palmar and ask if vigi bullets are refunded?
sorry I don't understand the last point. I said in thread "rsoul never told us anything about item". rsoul responded "I'm not going to tonight. It's better that way". maybe you missed that. ofc i say she needs to be questioned tomorrow
I think SL is vet because he claimed vet in a day where all mafia kp was soaked. If he is mafia then how does he know other town vet(s) is not going to claim as well and throw suspicion on him. Mafia probably thinks there is a vet since their kp didn't go through, even so you go ahead and claim a role which prob is unique or there is only a few, knowing that one is prob present and has reason to cc you?
My read on koshi wasn't because of activity at first, it was because of random reads and him not being pushy/obnoxious/agressive so far. I voted him ytd based on that.
If reads based on claims are super easy to make why would I throw away the opportunity to get an easy read on someone? And if they are easy to make why are yours mostly opposite from mine?
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Fact is 95% claims made without any pressure come from town. You didn't see TT claiming anything randomly did you?
Only claim I think is probably false is rsoul's, cause it was stalled like shit and was made because of pressure. Breadcrumbs make it more beliavable, but there is also possible scenarios where she breadcrumbs this as mafia (either knowing about the engineer role, or being mafia engineer) . But it was worth a shot keeping her alive since she claimed to have an invention made by stutters, which could have an obvious or verifiable effect which would help us sort it out.
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On March 30 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
so rsoultin was mafia. That is bad for me again. Good for town though :/
well vivax was medic and that's points in your favor.
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On March 29 2016 21:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT. Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that? Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway? SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately. Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe. Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill. Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this?I think you're super scummy now
I'm guessing vivax saved koshi lol
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koshi you are forgeting rels. His play is not the same as last game where he was obvious town d1 and plenty of the "oh this shit is so towny" stuff he's said looks fake as shit.
Also I don't see a way around at least one of LS and him being mafia due to d1 votes.
On March 26 2016 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Night 1
Votecount for D1
Tubesock (7): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike
rsoultin (5): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Damdred (1): sicklucker
Tumblewood (0): Superbia, sicklucker, Vivax, Kurumi, Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (5): Stutters695, Damdred, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
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honestly damdred, is LS this low impact when no one is trying to lynch him? I can even see the rsoul town read thing, but he is doing absolutely jack shit.
ytd he voted TT while saying this and nothing else about him
On March 28 2016 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly think TT could be town based on the fact that in Season of the Witch he called me scum when he was town and I was town that game and in Nutcracker he called me town when I was town while he was scum. I know it might be a bit faulty but it just a meta I remember about TT.
He never said anything else about TT.
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On March 30 2016 07:53 LightningStrike wrote:
I will make it easier for you guys if you to lynch me
##vote: LightningStrike
you said you are going to go full denfense mode,
that's the quickest switch to full martyr mode.
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On March 30 2016 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly lost all my motivation to play seeing that flip and your stupid as fuck OMGUS on me.
that's not what omgus is, nor it's stupid as fuck. Fact is that if somehow you are town you've been mafia siding all game hard defending rsoul and soft defending TT. So I would say it's not that stupid to think you are mafia. I'm baffled as to why you even stuck with your rsoul read and was concerned for being killed for it for so long. If you were so damn sure she was town, her flipping mafia and how that would make you look like should have been the last thought in head, yet is something mentioned 5 or more times in your filter.
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On March 30 2016 08:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 08:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
here comes the fake LS baby rage he used in cell, not falling for it again btw I am sitting here expecting great things from you. Coming in with drowing some dirt on LS is not really what I expected.
the rage does look fake koshi.
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I fucking guarantee one or both of ls and rels is mafia.
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On March 30 2016 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 08:04 sandroba wrote:On March 30 2016 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly lost all my motivation to play seeing that flip and your stupid as fuck OMGUS on me. that's not what omgus is, nor it's stupid as fuck. Fact is that if somehow you are town you've been mafia siding all game hard defending rsoul and soft defending TT. So I would say it's not that stupid to think you are mafia. I'm baffled as to why you even stuck with your rsoul read and was concerned for being killed for it for so long. If you were so damn sure she was town, her flipping mafia and how that would make you look like should have been the last thought in head, yet is something mentioned 5 or more times in your filter. i DIDN'T REALLY DEFEND TT MUCH YOU STUPID ASS MONKEY IDC EVEN CARE IF THIS GETS ME MODKILLED.
why are you so mad at me ls and calling me names?
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On March 30 2016 08:22 Damdred wrote:
Because jat was shot n1.
I'm guessing you are not claiming medic, but something else right?
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@tumble can you explain to me your rels town read?
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yeah i know, it was pretty obvious and pretty surprising you didn't get shot and they went for jat again.
this game not only mafia needs info on your role, town also does since no flips. i'm not telling you to tell us if you can save yourself, nor if you saves are limited. Just that the prior medic said that medic = rb and now you are saying you are medic and you targeted jat so you can see where the confusion comes from. just explain how it works
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On March 30 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Vivax was a doctor I'm a combat medic I heal he blocks apparently
I see thank you.
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maybe va, he is being very precise with apparently so little time invested in the game. I'm kinda thinking tumble is still mafia lol. some combination of tumble rels va if ls is town, which maybe he is.
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