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On March 25 2016 09:22 Shapelog wrote:
When was the last time i got deep sleep? Tuesday? Jeez.
Anyways,
I still would lynch:
VA- Mellow yellow, need more out of him
Tumble/Rsoul- one of them. Want TUBMLE TO FUCKUONG RESPOND!@!!!!
Mr.Stutter - Just disappeared after asking me a question
OWS
Sandman as a Plynch
Still need to dive JAT, Kunimi, Someone i prob. forgetting.
In other words your mafia list is a list of all the inactive people. Not very impressive.
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On March 25 2016 16:33 sandroba wrote:
Read up till gumshoe died so far. It looks like slam shot him adn koshi somehow arrives at the conclusion it was ritoky. Kinda weird from koshi, but it seems like an honest mistake, not a fake dumb tell. Ritoky btw looks like is very likely townie, not really because of his vt gambit (which could be done by mafia if they had the roles early), but because of how much he believes his plan was the shit. As town we tend to think our dumb plan is so great imo =P.
Weird that slam didn't make any coments after the shot if it was him (which I'm inclined to believe). If I had to decide right here I'd say slam is scum.
That's not a good point. He can be proud of his plan regardless of alignment.
On March 25 2016 21:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 21:43 Kurumi wrote:On March 25 2016 21:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sandroba is probably town.
Too much going on in his posts for him to be mafia. Is that what you'd say about everyone who does that or only sandroba? Just sandroba. I've got a bunch of experience with sandroba and iirc he's completely useless as mafia - he posts very little and the posts he does make are easily recognized as illogical and bad. He is far and away stronger as town.
Most of the times sandroba is completely useless as mafia, yes. But he can also play a fucking scary game. Just look at catastrophe mafia for prove.
I think sandros posts today were okay. But he needs to return and continue to play.
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On March 25 2016 22:21 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 22:08 Vivax wrote:On March 25 2016 21:55 Kurumi wrote:On March 25 2016 21:44 Superbia wrote:
Obi/Kurumi, your thoughts at this point in time? I have a feeling that Mafia is playing a Lurker city type of game so far. VA's post rubbed me totally the wrong way, given that he was in the thread and failed to make any contributions and now he declared he's afk till D2. He did not even vote.... Still don't like sicklucker (gut tells me so, he seems to be apathetic about the game) and Tubesock's gameplay so far has been iffy. I have a feeling you are mafia, this feels like one of the few games where I can say that I think VA is town cause he had the opportunity to talk about a lot of useless stuff that has been going on and he didn't, which I'm confident he would do as mafia. He pretty much only talked about what was important to him even though it would seem like it wasn't enough content and not ritokys plays or the shot on gum which are a great semi-usefulness generator for mafia. At the end of the day I might end up sheeping sandroba, dunno depends on me finding stuff that can actually get a mafia lynched. Kurumi Koshi seem like good places I will look at, and rsoultin cause my newly found townreads think shes mafia. All that is in VA's filter is that he will be voting for rso and that he did not read much of the thread. He brought nothing of substance concerning rso, he said his vote would be be "half policy, half read". So no, he wasn't useful, he did not talk only about things important to him - his entire filter is just fluff like "oh man blues be blues everytime I play a game". He actively avoided talking about anything at all in any way and you believe that's better than talking? Bogus Vivax, bogus. Why do you want to sheep sandroba? Why are you already agreeing that rso is a good lynch prior to having your own opinion?
Being like that is VAs usual townmeta though. If he talked about it at length trying to find a sensible reasoning for his read then that would scare me way more about him.
On March 26 2016 00:51 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 23:36 rsoultin wrote:On March 25 2016 23:34 Damdred wrote:On March 25 2016 23:31 rsoultin wrote:On March 25 2016 23:13 Damdred wrote:
Besides rit who RS ? i'd bother to answer this if i hadn't already ^^ You've ignored me all game which is troublesome to say the least especially since you light scum read me earlier << i still think you're probably 3p (was thinking maybe even scum earlier, but saw something that makes me think otherwise) and so i'm not terribly interested in you tbh lol >< i could say the same thing about you avoiding me how long are you planning on hiding your reads? I think the only people who would truly think someone is 3p is a mafia in an open setup. A town would just think they are mafia and asume there is no 3rd party. but a mafia would see dandred playing weird look at their qt and see hes not in said qt. Knowing dandreds not mafia that mafia would then know that said dandred is third party.
Then why aren't you calling superbia scum right now? You know the guy who said Rels/me were 3p?
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On March 25 2016 23:18 Tubesock wrote:
Rso, I'd liek to talk about Tumble.
His only real read is Vivax is town. Which I agree with. He also didn't like the pile on of Gumdrops and came out with 2 suspects for it, which I also agree one (well the one, Hi Kurumi!!!). He also thinks Slam is town, which I also agree with. His sin really is not putting out more reads but he has a few in there and I don't get the impression he's trying to be substantive.
So, why do you think he's scum?
Outside of Ritoky's "play" I think he's town. I don't think it's at all outside his mafia play to make a bold move like that, but I guess I think there are better people to lynch?
This post is all around terrible. Awful reasoning for the questionable tumbelwood townread. Vague ritoky defense without any meat behind it even though he admits that ritoky could make his gambit as mafia.
On March 26 2016 00:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:00 Tubesock wrote:
Gums had votes on him already and was in danger. Why would anyone need to go all super giant case on the guy with what like 36 hours left in the day? If you are looking for someone to just lynch, then sure, secure that shit right away. But if you're town, I'd think you'd want to find out more and gain truth. I like this post, its a good post. time to eat
No, it is really not. It is a very bad post actually. Noone is ever mafia for posting a giant case and you should know better, damdred.
On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post. this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_-
It is EXACTLY what tube said. Wtf are you doing?
On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post. this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_-
No, he is not. His anger is absolutely understandable.
Not liking rsoultins recent posts at all. Tubesock is probably one of the best lynch targets right now.
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On March 26 2016 04:45 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote:
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up. we can probably let him get mod killed...
He won't be modkilled for inactivity in this game.
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For some reason the rsoultin quote went into my post twice. Replace it with the other post where she talked about Kurumis reaction to tubesock.
This one:
On March 26 2016 00:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:30 Kurumi wrote:On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post. this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_- He said my post was too big for the time of the game and that only scum would push gumshoe, because he was so obviously scummy that it was obvious that he was town PRETTY EASY TO SAY THAT WE HAS TOWNIE AFTER HE ALREADY FLIPPED, HUH? hyperbole much? like, you're right, these reads came later cause he entered the thread later, which is why i questioned him on gum to begin with since gum was doing the same thing he's accusing you of doing, yet you're completely misrepresenting what he's scumreading you for which just makes me twitch ><
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On March 26 2016 04:57 Damdred wrote:
I could lynch tube though he's on my list
I thought you liked his post very much just now?
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On March 26 2016 04:30 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote tubesock
voting tubesock because rsoultin is the worst lynch I ever saw in my life. Not kidding. I am puking.
Can you elaborate why it is THAT bad? Her recent posting was pretty disappointing and she lacks any town presence. I understand wanting to lynch other people before her but this post seems quite overboard.
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The lynch is in less than an hour, yes?
Where the fuck is everyone? Especially the two main wagons?
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On March 26 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her. The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia : On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.
it's pretty simple about rsoul though:
1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.
2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.
3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.
4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles. On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.
"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really? Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing. My vote stays. You quoted a post explaining how rsoul is scum and another one explaining why LS, who rsoul townreads, might be scum. Why should rsoul read these posts and be like "I was wrong rit could be town" ?
The main problem I have with this is that all sandro ever says about why rsoul is scum is that he disagrees with her scumreads. Which I find pretty unconvincing alone. Especially since ritoky has completely disappeared since his ridiculous fit about his stupid plan yesterday.
I think rsouls play is lacking severely by now and it's not a bad thing that she is a wagon at all but I would expect sandro to present more convincing arguments than this.
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On March 26 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team.
I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded.
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On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.
Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.
We are not lynching VA. Stutters is pure policy and maybe we have a vig for him or something.
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On March 26 2016 06:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.
Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.
We are not lynching VA. Stutters is pure policy and maybe we have a vig for him or something. Stutters is actually the ideal person for a Slam shot. Hopefully he's dealt with by a vig. You towread VA ?
I wouldn't call it a townread. But I have played with him countless times and know better than to lynch him day1 for being useless. The only time he ever isn't useless on day1 is if he is mafia.
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On March 26 2016 06:12 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 26 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team. I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded. I was just using a 4 player mafia team because a 5 player mafia team was just a tad bit harsh for the point i was making. Perhaps a 4 and 1/2 scum team should suffice no?  Pretty much. Though i think the scum team number should be roughly 4-5 since for m18 it was 4. idk how Mr.PAL-mar balances though.
What's the point? Why are you even talking about this?
I thought you wanted to reduce the amount of unnecessary spam you produce.
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On March 26 2016 06:19 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 06:15 justanothertownie wrote:On March 26 2016 06:12 Shapelog wrote:On March 26 2016 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 26 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team. I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded. I was just using a 4 player mafia team because a 5 player mafia team was just a tad bit harsh for the point i was making. Perhaps a 4 and 1/2 scum team should suffice no? Pretty much. Though i think the scum team number should be roughly 4-5 since for m18 it was 4. idk how Mr.PAL-mar balances though. What's the point? Why are you even talking about this? I thought you wanted to reduce the amount of unnecessary spam you produce. Oh yeahhhhhhhhh, i forgot about that. :/ I was talking about this because you typed something about it. IF you are talking about the original post, i want to know what LS thinks about Tube or anyone for that matter that he finds sus.
Fair enough. You could have done that without the random irrelevant number comment though.
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On March 26 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:00 Tubesock wrote:
Gums had votes on him already and was in danger. Why would anyone need to go all super giant case on the guy with what like 36 hours left in the day? If you are looking for someone to just lynch, then sure, secure that shit right away. But if you're town, I'd think you'd want to find out more and gain truth. The biggest thing for him being scum is this post. A lot of hours after its first reason to scumread Kurumi, tube is still stuck with the same reasonning. His scumread is not evolving with the thread. Futhermore, there is also the fact that he is so focused on only a couple people. Plus the read switch on me. Plus the "I would have scumread gumshoe if Kurumi didn't jump on him" sentence with doens't make sense.
Yes. I just read his filter again and stopped at the same post. It is very weird that he jumps on kurumi for overexplained/longish posts defending gumshoe when gumshoe was the worst offender in that regard and I don't think I buy his explanation.
I don't see the train of thought here.
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On March 26 2016 06:34 Superbia wrote:
RSO stop lurking right now.
+1
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On March 26 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:
Actually yeah That post from tube is a bit off. Thought i feel like rsoul is still mafia so i am sticking to my guns.
Idk about tube anymore tbh. Felt at first like a town tunneling onto someone but these points you are making Rels. I can't really deny it doesn't make much sense.
Still annoyed that wagons are not here.
The problem is I don't think Tube will return. He said he was going to work and that he can't post from there. Which is indeed annoying.
No idea what's going on with rsoultin.
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On March 26 2016 06:40 sicklucker wrote:
I think I want to vote rstoulin even tho tube is also mafia just because I think its easy to kill tube tormorow and get two mafia if that makes any sense. But hum
It doesn't.
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