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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 24 2016 21:29 GMT
#781
On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 24 2016 21:30 GMT
#782
Oh you just didn't see he that he had claimed he can't shoot past Day 1 no wonder you were voting him lol....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:30 GMT
#783
On March 25 2016 06:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.

This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 24 2016 21:33 GMT
#784
On March 25 2016 06:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.

This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum.

Because shooting a inactive would give 0 information except their alignment that is it. Like you probably didn't see this but when I was a Gunsmith I gave Marv a gun I told him not to shoot scott because he was a inactive and he did so anyways...
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:34 GMT
#785
On March 25 2016 04:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not too crazy to be scum lets be clear about that. If he truly follows the house of brown, chezinu is infamous for making super scummy ridiculous plays as scum.

On the other hand, i have little to no interest in lynching slam today but maybe later once i get a better feel of the roles in this game and people's sentiments.

This VA is mellow and maybe scum
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:35 GMT
#786
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:35 GMT
#787
On March 25 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:30 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.

This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum.

Because shooting a inactive would give 0 information except their alignment that is it. Like you probably didn't see this but when I was a Gunsmith I gave Marv a gun I told him not to shoot scott because he was a inactive and he did so anyways...

100% disagree. You shoot for mafia not for info. Inactive waste a day if we have to lynch them. They're 90% of the time the best vig target.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:36 GMT
#788
On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.

Slam clearly said he had to shoot D1.
What direction are you talking about with JAT ?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 24 2016 21:38 GMT
#789
Kurumi responded a bit ago
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.


Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.

Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.

I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...

For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...


I didn't skim your posts. I did not bring up your lack or reads so why the defensiveness? What I think your reads were is basically Superbia and Lightninstrike are town and ritoky and Gum were mafia. ALthough you didn't talk much about ritoky. Not nearly as much as Gum anyway. What do you currently think of Ritoky?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:38 GMT
#790
ritoky could you lay out exactly what town benefits you were going for with your plan ?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 24 2016 21:40 GMT
#791
Rels:

On March 25 2016 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 03:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 24 2016 21:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, it was slam most likely. And it WAS a fucking awful shot. Yes, gumshoes posts were 99 % useless rambling but he still obviously put a lot of effort into the game which he usually doesn't as mafia and I am pretty sure slam knows this.

He needs to give us reasoning for 1) why he shot so early and 2) why gumshoe.

And if it isn't very convincing I am tempted to just policy lynch him.

Do that then because that's been proven so effective, JAT, and will secure a town win.

Fuck this bullshit, you butthurt idiots are so everywhere that I lose all motive to cooperate. No hate @ Superbia, Vivax, Kurumi, etc who convinced me the guy could very likely be scum, nooooooooo hate the shooter and policy lynch even though he
1. Breadcrumbed enough that you all knew it was me
2. Told people to think about what a gumshoe flip would tell them (but was clearly ignored)


No that's a policy lynch that will help us win because he will still be a destructive force in the game, because multi shot vigs are totally possible.

you are going to make not breaking the rules really damned hard.

How about you stop crying like a baby and explain why you made that shot at that time when you were in no danger to ever be nightkilled.

Cannot shoot after day1,
Suspected one of either Gumshoe or Kurumi,
Felt that Gumshoe was not adding useful talk and being distracted by my old meta.

Who is crying so hard?

"Slam shot wrong dude plynch him now"

Vindictive AND an asshole, I see. Take a higher road than I take in every way or not at all.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:40 GMT
#792
LOL shape you used the same word than I on VA.
I like your read list.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:42 GMT
#793
On March 25 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.

Slam clearly said he had to shoot D1.
What direction are you talking about with JAT ?


But was there a time limit? I don't get shooting in the first 8 hours. I thought this would be clarified by slam through some role-mechanics thing.

For JAT: I'm finding it hard to put into words. I understand why he would push me on the rso push like that from a possible-town's perspective, but I find it hard to find the direction his mindset is going after that.

Tbf I feel like there is a rso/JAT/rels(you) circle going on which is going on ritoky(nono)/slam. Let me know if I'm reading that wrong.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:43 GMT
#794
Seems like a skimmed a little too much. Slam is sort of okay from the post tubesock quoted.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:46 GMT
#795
Ritoky why are you reading me town?
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 21:48 GMT
#796
On March 25 2016 06:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.

Slam clearly said he had to shoot D1.
What direction are you talking about with JAT ?


But was there a time limit? I don't get shooting in the first 8 hours. I thought this would be clarified by slam through some role-mechanics thing.

For JAT: I'm finding it hard to put into words. I understand why he would push me on the rso push like that from a possible-town's perspective, but I find it hard to find the direction his mindset is going after that.

Tbf I feel like there is a rso/JAT/rels(you) circle going on which is going on ritoky(nono)/slam. Let me know if I'm reading that wrong.

No more info on Slam.
I think Slam is town now. I want to reread ritoky's filter at least if I can't talk to him before anything else. Something is bothering me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 24 2016 21:49 GMT
#797
Super why are you so concerned with people's town reads on you when you were towny early?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 21:49 GMT
#798
because i don't think you have the stones to claim not town as mafia that early into the game and then do some weirdly bad rescindy stuff. i mean it is in my filter in a spoiler on a big reads post.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:50 GMT
#799
On March 25 2016 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Super why are you so concerned with people's town reads on you when you were towny early?


Because I know my alignment so I can play off that.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2016 21:50 GMT
#800
On March 25 2016 06:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:42 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.

Slam clearly said he had to shoot D1.
What direction are you talking about with JAT ?


But was there a time limit? I don't get shooting in the first 8 hours. I thought this would be clarified by slam through some role-mechanics thing.

For JAT: I'm finding it hard to put into words. I understand why he would push me on the rso push like that from a possible-town's perspective, but I find it hard to find the direction his mindset is going after that.

Tbf I feel like there is a rso/JAT/rels(you) circle going on which is going on ritoky(nono)/slam. Let me know if I'm reading that wrong.

No more info on Slam.
I think Slam is town now. I want to reread ritoky's filter at least if I can't talk to him before anything else. Something is bothering me.


What is that?
Minimal effort.
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