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On March 24 2016 10:22 LightningStrike wrote:Honestly if Vivax is town he this guy atm and needs to see the light: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/)
idk, why are you so defensive all a suddenly when you have stated that you are usually misread day 1?
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On March 24 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:49 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Okay this very bad. Why vote for someone if you didn't read much of the thread? This seems like you opportunisticly posted that after JAT attacked this read.
I honestly didn't see JAT's post before that since I using my phone to post and it doesn't update that fast.
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On March 24 2016 23:55 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 10:22 LightningStrike wrote:Honestly if Vivax is town he this guy atm and needs to see the light: idk, why are you so defensive all a suddenly when you have stated that you are usually misread day 1?
I usually misread by people WHO never played with me.
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On March 24 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
Okay, maybe I need to await slam's explanation and evaluate from there. I'm still with ritoky as being town.
Yes, indeed. In the same vein please explain this post:
On March 24 2016 22:56 Superbia wrote:
I also have no idea how people are evaluating slam as being non-town.
1) What is the point of declaring this before slam said anything about the shot? Aren't you interested at all/are you so sure about his alignment that you don't need him to?
2) If yes, why? What's towny about what he did?
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On March 24 2016 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I am normally defensive although variant in degrees of it so that is NAI ritoky.
Well, Read shape read shape. Maybe you will get answers to questions.
Hmmm, let me catch up before i do anything else.
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On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.
Oh thought you were talking about super not Tina (facepalm). Tina seems happier than her last game?
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On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.
Taking a look at the playerlist I have to stop the circlejerk before it gets out of control unfortunately. 50%
read of ritoky is bad and already hard defending people that will never lynch her 50%
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On March 24 2016 23:55 Superbia wrote:
... Why are you defending me LS? x:
I think you're town that is why.
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On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.
Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.
I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.
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On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting.
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It's Kurumi and I am a he. I have no idea what a bomb pop is and why it should matter. Yes, I do. I am very vary of ritoky, I like Superbia, LightningStorm. No idea what your sonic post was meant to bring to the thread. You seem to like the idea of gumshoe being town, but you have so far not done much to defend him or anything else. Why are you so careless about your town-read being the main topic so far?
Jeez, we got ourselfs a person who do not like jokes. monotone guy who monotone is aggressiveness.
About Mr.Gumshow,
It was what? 3 or so hours into the game at that point? I defended him a bit (and to get some more flesh out of Super) but i saw your push and wanted to see how you interacted with him and pushed him without interference (something that i also do.) But let me be more clear:
You come in, pick up the Scum!Gumshow bug and then basically semi-tunnel on him. Sure some of it (like in the 1st response back to you from Gumshow, question 2) were genuinely (as he kinda dodge the question in that one) but others felt a tad bit strechy or off from what i consider a townie mindset.
I need to reread those anyway some time today so i get back to you on what i fully think your interaction with him later today.
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On March 24 2016 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
Okay, maybe I need to await slam's explanation and evaluate from there. I'm still with ritoky as being town. Yes, indeed. In the same vein please explain this post: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:56 Superbia wrote:
I also have no idea how people are evaluating slam as being non-town. 1) What is the point of declaring this before slam said anything about the shot? Aren't you interested at all/are you so sure about his alignment that you don't need him to? 2) If yes, why? What's towny about what he did?
I had him as town before anything happened and I'm not explaining my thought process on slam until he elaborates himself. If at that point you still feel a need to question me on this, repeat the question.
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On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/
Too early for this shit. Like something about dropkicking Slam and visas and shit.
I am starting not to like this town play style of not posting what ever is on my mind because peeps are forgetting that good ole Shape is in the game. Oh well, beggers can't be spammers.
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On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.
Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times.
Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.
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On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own. Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times. Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.
I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet.
I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle.
Am I scum going after her?
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On March 24 2016 18:16 Palmar wrote:
Announcement:
gumshoe the Expedition Member has been shot. He is now dead.
Great, this morning is just getting better and better.
Wonder what other magical things you guys have been up too while i been asleep.
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On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own. Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times. Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion. I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet. I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle. Am I scum going after her?
I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game.
My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.
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I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.
Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.
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I'm actually going to take a break from playing. Will be back later.
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On March 25 2016 00:14 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 18:16 Palmar wrote:
Announcement:
gumshoe the Expedition Member has been shot. He is now dead. Great, this morning is just getting better and better. Wonder what other magical things you guys have been up too while i been asleep.
this seems a bit fake to me...
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