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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 14:55 GMT
#539
On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read


Nice. I like it.

Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.


Why?

Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.


Which ones, specifically?

This one:
On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?

Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.

I think rit probably town though


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 14:57 GMT
#544
On March 24 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
Okay, maybe I need to await slam's explanation and evaluate from there. I'm still with ritoky as being town.

Yes, indeed. In the same vein please explain this post:
On March 24 2016 22:56 Superbia wrote:
I also have no idea how people are evaluating slam as being non-town.

1) What is the point of declaring this before slam said anything about the shot? Aren't you interested at all/are you so sure about his alignment that you don't need him to?
2) If yes, why? What's towny about what he did?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:02 GMT
#550
On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.

I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:08 GMT
#554
On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read


Nice. I like it.

Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.


Why?

Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.


Which ones, specifically?

This one:
On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?

Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.

I think rit probably town though


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.


Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.

I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.

Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times.

Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:15 GMT
#557
On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read


Nice. I like it.

Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.


Why?

Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.


Which ones, specifically?

This one:
On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?

Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.

I think rit probably town though


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.


Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.

I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.

Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times.

Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.


I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet.


I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle.

Am I scum going after her?

I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game.
My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:17 GMT
#561
On March 25 2016 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.

Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.

Lots of townreads, eh? Mind sharing?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:23 GMT
#564
On March 25 2016 00:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.


Why?

Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.


Which ones, specifically?

This one:
On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?

Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.

I think rit probably town though


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.


Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.

I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.

Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times.

Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.


I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet.


I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle.

Am I scum going after her?

I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game.
My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.


She completely ignored my posts (i.e. no read on me whatsoever) and scum-read/went after my 2 town-reads. I want pressure on her.

What are you getting from all of this? I am genuinely curious. You're at the moment pretty much defending her by questioning the push on her. Why? Do you think mafia is actively pursuing her? What does this mean for your read on her? Why do you believe that pushes on her need to be questioned? Why are these questions relevant to solving the game? Is it more important than letting it play out and collecting information that way?

Do you think your posts were so interesting that ignoring them would be unnatural as town? Because I ignored them too.

I am not defending her at all. I want you to explain what is scummy about her to get a better read on YOU. So far the only thing you brought up was a disagreement about ritoky which isn't a very good reas. Pushes always need to be questioned.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:27 GMT
#567
Oh god, Koshi is mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:34 GMT
#573
On March 25 2016 00:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.

Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.

Lots of townreads, eh? Mind sharing?


Lots is probably an exaggeration but

LS
Vivax
Super

koshi

Rit
Slam

Some of them are flimsy right now and built on gut rit and slam. Koshis is easily faked I think buy I think its enough for d1 pass. I'm decently sure about ls and vivax though, super has a few problems but is still solid.

And I want to town read you jat but we are in the dating stage

Oh jeez, how thrilling.

Did you explain slam somewhere or is it really pure gut?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:37 GMT
#575
On March 25 2016 00:36 Shapelog wrote:
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On March 24 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Forgot about tumblewood guy so let's give him a scum-lean as well.

What?
You forgot about someone so scumlean them is totes the best way... Instead of looking at their posts and determining it form them?
Maybe you flesh this out, otherwise if not, please do so at your earliest convince.

Forgettable people usually have a very high chance of being mafia. It's a legit reason on its own.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:43 GMT
#578
On March 25 2016 00:41 Koshi wrote:
Mr. Chupazi never gets killed by mafia. I do not believe in shots that need to be fired so fast within D1. I do not understand why he wouldn't wait. He can die.

That's exactly my line of reasoning here - I have no idea why he felt the need to shoot so early. Good boy.

Still would have liked slam to adress the thing first :/
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:51 GMT
#580
On March 25 2016 00:26 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +
Vivax
justanothertownie

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
rsoultin
Tumblewood
Rels

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
Stutters695
sandroba
ObiWanShinobi (Happy to stay in the shadows Cav? That's bad, come out of it)
Tictock
Shapelog
Tubesock

Won't lynch right now Mafia
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ritoky
Kurumi
sicklucker
Damdred
Superbia (I feel like this guy has some really wrong reads. On top of that, did he go against the people reading me as town because they do it too easy or because he thinks I am mafia or is it both? Looked like he adjusted his story when he was getting flak which is never good. It was also quite obvious JAT didn't have rsoultin super high in his townlist. misrepresenting is bad as well.)

Maybe Mafia
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Alakaslam
LightningStrike

Likely Mafia
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Confirmed Mafia
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Actually, can you explain why Tumblewood is in your townlist? And why LS is this far down?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 15:58 GMT
#583
On March 25 2016 00:52 Damdred wrote:
Lets not go down that line jat just because you do not like my reads foes not mean you have to act so sarcastically towards me. I will just ignore you if I have to.

As for slam some is gut and the way he was doing things earlier questions somewhat trying before he just went breadcrumbs everywhere made me think he's town. Less so now than before but yeah.

Calm your tits. It was harmless banter and not even meant to be in negative in any way :p

If I had a problem with your townreads I would have questioned you on them like I did with slam.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 16:00 GMT
#584
On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote:
Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.

Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon.

And posted 25 minutes before it happened:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.

Must sleep on it, real quick

So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird.

Since you just looked at it - when did he make this post about rsoultin where he says "too late now"? Was this before the second quote? Because if that is the case this is really odd.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 16:02 GMT
#586
Well, something doesn't add up here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 16:47 GMT
#603
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.

Red: Decent point. Not the breadcrumbing but the actual claiming vs. just shutting up.
Green: You could have waited for this first.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 16:49 GMT
#604
On March 25 2016 01:45 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 24 2016 19:24 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
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Likely Town
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gumshoe (this guy is obvious town, if you pursue him you are mafia) (yes, I placed him here and typed that before he got shot by a baddie, who shot him? If it as ritoky he is the D1 lynch)
Alakaslam (I take it you are also a dayvig? Shoot ritoky please)

Maybe town
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Vivax

Not going to lynch Town
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rsoultin
Tumblewood
Superbia (really disliked that first list post, otherwise you would be higher)

Null
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VayneAuthority
Stutters695
sandroba
ObiWanShinobi
Rels
justanothertownie
Tictock
Shapelog
Tubesock

Won't lynch right now Mafia
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Kurumi
Damdred
sicklucker ( Didn't like how you saw something on LS and then weakened your position on LS by saying the 50/50 wasn't a real 50/50)
LightningStrike (Can rsoultin explain to me why this guy is town?)

Maybe Mafia
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Likely Mafia
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Confirmed Mafia
rikoky Yeah, he shot him, should have posted my reads 1 hour ago before I wasted that hour rereading everything. I might have been able to fucking pressure ritoky out of his ridiculous opportunistic shot. But between all the bluehunting and shooting the most obvious town that would be confirmed town VERY QUICKLY due to sheer willingness to play the game, in a game that doesn't allow for replacements and has a bunch of people who didn't post anything yet, ritoky always needs to die here. (I already hear the incoming retarded arguments that "ritoky is town because why would he do it as mafia?" I agree, last game he did have the decency to wait till N2 (and all vets died) to take an opportunistic shot as mafia, but I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK. Town cannot lynch these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well.



koshi dumb tell confirmed? would not lynch

What are you talking about? That he assumed ritoky shot? How would a dumbtell like this mean anything unless Koshi is mafia together with slam? It really doesn't.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 16:50 GMT
#606
*With slam OR ritoky.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 17:40 GMT
#646
On March 25 2016 02:07 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 24 2016 22:52 Superbia wrote:
Actually my problem lies with Koshi's push, and it doesn't necessarily directly relates to Koshi's alignment, but more to the fact that I feel he may have been spewed by mafia (i.e. people are calling him town too quickly).

I will elaborate. Koshi's "anger-push" on Ritoky was completely unfounded, as Ritoky had gum high in his town-list (a post that was posted pretty much before the shot), as a result of his post (and a small number of other circumstances), Ritoky would've never shot gum. This is somewhat obvious from first glace, and completely obvious after looking deeper into it (even without considering Slam's soft). I felt that the emotion behind Koshi's post was townie, but the content was absolutely not. It was undirected and based on nothing close to logic.

I believe that this does not mean Koshi is mafia, but rather that the people who piled on to calling Koshi town that quickly are more suspect (i.e. I'm the first to bring this up).


this was kinda what I ment by the dumbtell jat. Rit just posted gum was town. Then koshi started going full retard with dumbemotion that I felt as townie

The argument superbia makes doesn't make any sense though. If Koshi thought for whatever reason that ritoky shot gumshoe then his reaction to that is very consistent and logical ESPECIALLY since ritoky said he townread gumshoe. So if ritoky had shot he really should be mafia in Koshis eyes.

What you are saying is the opposite. That the reaction is towny which is fair but is very different from koshi being town directly because of the dumbtell.
On March 25 2016 02:23 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.


Why?

Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.


Which ones, specifically?

This one:
On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?

Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.

I think rit probably town though


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.


Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.

I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.

Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times.

Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.


I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet.


I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle.

Am I scum going after her?

I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game.
My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.



u mad?

wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 24 2016 17:46 GMT
#654
On March 25 2016 02:42 sicklucker wrote:
Im getting vibes that your mad about a town circle forming

Yeah, sure. Everyone besides you is saying I am town and I am afraid of a town circle forming. Makes sense.

I just tend to not townread people day1. In Star Wars I literally didn't hand out a single townread all game.
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