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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 21:59 GMT
#2473
On March 29 2016 06:58 sicklucker wrote:
I HAVE ON IDEA WHAT THE VOTECOUNT IS I CANT LYNCH WOH I WANT TO LYNCH IN THE ORDER I WANT

yeah.. what the actual fuck
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 21:59 GMT
#2478
this is so bad
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:10 GMT
#2495
Thank god.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:10 GMT
#2501
On March 29 2016 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
huh so now we know who saved koshi. You morons got lucky I sapose but thats huge. For the record dont switch with 3 minutes left. While I didnt care much about ticktock one way or the other I had an order of prefured lynches and by not having a vote count and I had no chance to get my best perceived possible lynch

Yes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:12 GMT
#2510
On March 29 2016 07:10 Rels wrote:
or actually you need to CLAIM next day

Yes. You claim day3 if you saved koshi. Otherwise we lynch him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:20 GMT
#2531
On March 29 2016 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I think Mafia were caught with their pants down with that lynch in 5 mins before deadline.

You think so? I can basically guarantee you that people bussed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:39 GMT
#2552
On March 29 2016 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I will say this it's possible it's a CPR doc and they were killing koshi without a shot I guess? But that sounds way to op

No fucking way. Not only would this role have a different name but like you said it is op.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:40 GMT
#2554
This is not the first storm mafia with a mafia doc which is one of the reasons I even pushed Koshi this hard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:42 GMT
#2557
And a mafia doc also makes the big amount of vigs much much more believable. Could be 3p in there too though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 22:51 GMT
#2565
On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.

I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.

Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.


Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol.

You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY:
On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .



Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though.

Reads at this point:

VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing.

Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;

WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write

Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue...
Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)

Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before

sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +
#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;

Feels alot like sandroba from last game

ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler +
#957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts

Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +
Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...

Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;

I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk.

justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions

Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things

ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.

#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.

Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads.

sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;

So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town

Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +
I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.

#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?

It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given

Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta

#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here

I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read

Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +
#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?

Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.

Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +
I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.

#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax

rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from

kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck

While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town.

LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;

I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads

Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +
#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon

Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game

who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened?

Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:00 GMT
#2571
On March 29 2016 07:58 Superbia wrote:
I have some thinking to do. :p

I am really hoping town doc did not save koshi though.

I am almost 100 % certain Koshi at least got hit by KP because Ticktock clearly tried to set up a claim which would pretty much make Koshi mafia. Unless Kurumi is mafia with Ticktock that is.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:01 GMT
#2572
So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:07 GMT
#2576
But if Koshi is mafia then he is the only logical save for ticktock.

Who were the discussed vig shots night 1? Stutters and Ticktock.
Stutters is town. Ticktock most likely can't save himself.
Who was set to be lynched day2 according to townleaders? Koshi. People therefore might shoot him.
Koshi is the logical save.
The only other option would be rsoultin if she was mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:10 GMT
#2580
On March 29 2016 08:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.

I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.

Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.


Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol.

You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY:
On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:
On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .



Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though.

Reads at this point:

VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing.

Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;

WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write

Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue...
Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)

Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before

sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +
#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;

Feels alot like sandroba from last game

ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler +
#957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts

Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +
Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...

Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;

I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk.

justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions

Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things

ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.

#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.

Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads.

sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;

So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town

Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +
I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.

#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?

It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given

Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta

#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here

I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read

Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +
#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?

Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.

Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +
I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.

#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax

rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from

kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck

While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town.

LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;

I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads

Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +
#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon

Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game

who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened?

Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?

No it wasn't. I could tell you who but maybe he really saved me!

Sure, wait until it's daytime.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:11 GMT
#2581
Even though I think someone else saving you is pretty much impossible now?!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 28 2016 23:24 GMT
#2587
On March 29 2016 08:22 sandroba wrote:
I'm starting to think there are 2 mafia teams -_-

Where the fuck were you? :/
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 29 2016 00:12 GMT
#2654
On March 29 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong.

it's probably wrong. unless Kurumi is actually brilliant and set this TT doc thing up. But I doubt that because Kurumi never wanted to see TT die I think.

This is impossible. Ticktock CLEARLY set up a claim of saving you here:
On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:
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On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .



Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though.

Reads at this point:

VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing.

Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;

WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write

Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue...
Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)

Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before

sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +
#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;

Feels alot like sandroba from last game

ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler +
#957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts

Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +
Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...

Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;

I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk.

justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions

Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things

ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.

#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.

Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads.

sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;

So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town

Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +
I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.

#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?

It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given

Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta

#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here

I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read

Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +
#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?

Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.

Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +
I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.

#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax

rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from

kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck

While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town.

LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;

I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads

Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +
#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon

Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game

Kurumi did not claim his shot until 16 minutes later:
On March 27 2016 20:26 Kurumi wrote:
I shot Koshi and he is still alive, any takers? Sorry I have not posted since the last post, I had to get it posted and then rush to another place, since family time!

So if Kurumi is town there is 0 way for Ticktock to know you were shot.

It is CONFIRMED that one of you and Kurumi is mafia. Since you are actually playing now maybe it is Kurumi. But one of you is scum 100 %.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 29 2016 00:14 GMT
#2657
The 2 posts happening this close to each other actually supports a Kurumi/Ticktock world.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 29 2016 00:18 GMT
#2664
On March 29 2016 09:14 Koshi wrote:
JAT, how did he set up a docsave on me? He just says I am 100% town? Which was a brilliant read of him!

It was at a point where noone was townreading you and several people had stated they wanted to lynch you. And look at the words he uses.
Easiest read in the game etc etc.

Sorry but it is obvious. Nobody would state this read as mafia in this situation.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 29 2016 00:22 GMT
#2668
On March 29 2016 09:19 Koshi wrote:
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On March 29 2016 09:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2016 09:14 Koshi wrote:
JAT, how did he set up a docsave on me? He just says I am 100% town? Which was a brilliant read of him!

It was at a point where noone was townreading you and several people had stated they wanted to lynch you. And look at the words he uses.
Easiest read in the game etc etc.

Sorry but it is obvious. Nobody would state this read as mafia in this situation.

You may or may not be going insane. probably are.

Look, I know you are pretty stupid. But even you must realize that there wasn't anything that warranted a read this strong at that point which by chance came exactly after you supposedly were targeted by KP and just before someone else claims said KP.

If you are town then Kurumi is mafia.
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