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Koshi even if you're town can you shut up until tomorrow ? So we know if you're 99% scum or not.
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On March 29 2016 07:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 07:42 Shapelog wrote:
CPR doc is the one that kills the target if they do not get attacked right? Correct.
Then i agree with people with the likelyhood of scum having that. Plus, TT's role wasn't flavored in a way i would expect a CPR to be flavored, but this is WIFOM kind of stuff so meh.
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Im pretty sure koshi is town just for the fact he hasnt given up and the turn of events clearly piked his interest.
Whereas superbia and rsoultin more or less hrmpfd and fucked off.
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On March 27 2016 09:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 08:38 sandroba wrote:
@LS since you seem so sure rsoul is town it should be easier for you to come up with some sort of mafia team that doesn't include her, or even a single person you suspect of being mafia instead. I can't find any clue on your filter of who you think is mafia. Rels potentially, VA, Vivax +1. Rels usually have a stronger presence as town but activity is nay. VA not really having his usual sharpness(this is a meta read that I borrowing from kushm4sta) and all he did was pretty much complained and didn't do anything outside of that. Vivax fallen off real hard since his big spur of actvity and he is known for lurking as scum.
LS being second to switch on TT + having real scumreads makes me think he's town.
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On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.
I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.
Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.
Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol.
You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY:
On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before - town - + Show Spoiler +#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts - town - + Show Spoiler +Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town - Scum - + Show Spoiler +I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read - Null - + Show Spoiler +#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
- Town - + Show Spoiler +I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads - Town - + Show Spoiler +#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game
who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened?
Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?
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On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.
I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.
Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.
Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol. You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY: Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before - town - + Show Spoiler +#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts - town - + Show Spoiler +Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town - Scum - + Show Spoiler +I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read - Null - + Show Spoiler +#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
- Town - + Show Spoiler +I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads - Town - + Show Spoiler +#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened? Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?
This is so cool
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On March 29 2016 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Im pretty sure koshi is town just for the fact he hasnt given up and the turn of events clearly piked his interest.
Whereas superbia and rsoultin more or less hrmpfd and fucked off.
idk about that, i feel like there is more too that than that. Though them fucking off is also strange.
idk Koshi got pretty lazy last game and he was blue.
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On March 27 2016 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Ye. I get an item at night and then I can choose to try to make it work at any phase. Then it has a 50% chance of working, so if I were to try to make it work this phase I'd know what it did during the night phase
This is confirmed by her breadcrumb that her role is something engineer related, so it's 99% likely it's her real role. And it doesn't make sense for town to choose an object that scum will receive. Doesn't make any sense balance wise I think, unless town has a loooot of powers to counteract this kinda bastard way of working. rsoul is town unless half the game is blue.
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On March 29 2016 07:54 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Im pretty sure koshi is town just for the fact he hasnt given up and the turn of events clearly piked his interest.
Whereas superbia and rsoultin more or less hrmpfd and fucked off. idk about that, i feel like there is more too that than that. Though them fucking off is also strange. idk Koshi got pretty lazy last game and he was blue.
Koshi was obvious town last game.
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I have some thinking to do. :p
I am really hoping town doc did not save koshi though.
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On March 29 2016 07:58 Superbia wrote:
I have some thinking to do. :p
I am really hoping town doc did not save koshi though.
I am almost 100 % certain Koshi at least got hit by KP because Ticktock clearly tried to set up a claim which would pretty much make Koshi mafia. Unless Kurumi is mafia with Ticktock that is.
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So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong.
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On March 29 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 07:58 Superbia wrote:
I have some thinking to do. :p
I am really hoping town doc did not save koshi though. I am almost 100 % certain Koshi at least got hit by KP because Ticktock clearly tried to set up a claim which would pretty much make Koshi mafia. Unless Kurumi is mafia with Ticktock that is.
Yeah it could still be that Kurumi is mafia. But I'm pretty dug into the koshi is mafia world.
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On March 29 2016 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong.
Don't think so. There's a strange world in which they're both mafia, but I don't think they're both town.
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I think it has to be, its kind of strange mafia doc would save koshi when vig kur shoots. I'm not sure it is convenient to be sure.
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But if Koshi is mafia then he is the only logical save for ticktock.
Who were the discussed vig shots night 1? Stutters and Ticktock.
Stutters is town. Ticktock most likely can't save himself.
Who was set to be lynched day2 according to townleaders? Koshi. People therefore might shoot him.
Koshi is the logical save.
The only other option would be rsoultin if she was mafia.
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On March 29 2016 07:43 Rels wrote:
Koshi even if you're town can you shut up until tomorrow ? So we know if you're 99% scum or not.
But what will you guys do without my insightful reads?
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Yeah i agree, by looking at TT interaction. It suggests Koshi a bit more then Kuru. TT kinda shitted on his claim a bit.
On March 28 2016 13:41 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 20:26 Kurumi wrote:
I shot Koshi and he is still alive, any takers? Sorry I have not posted since the last post, I had to get it posted and then rush to another place, since family time! Wtf is this? Also excuses and apologies... Could lynch
Torn between Slam and Kuru, Sand seems so towny and his claim was upfront and simple.
Though it might be quick to call it though.
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On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.
I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.
Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.
Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol. You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY: Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before - town - + Show Spoiler +#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts - town - + Show Spoiler +Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town - Scum - + Show Spoiler +I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read - Null - + Show Spoiler +#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
- Town - + Show Spoiler +I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads - Town - + Show Spoiler +#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened? Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?
No it wasn't. I could tell you who but maybe he really saved me!
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On March 29 2016 08:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why people say I am trolling. These are my reads.
I am not constantly posting and rereading because I don't want to do that and because I had 4 days of work and I got more pleasant things to do.
Voting me because I am not obvious town is really bad play. I am still more town than some others are. Also, my reads are probably pretty good, but because I am not sure of that yet I can't really be too obnoxious about it.
Also really odd to say the cpr doc thing is "the final nail on the coffin", because it is almost the only thing that could actually have happened in case kurumi is town. Or it was [retracted] who saved me :D. There is 1 who might have done it lol. You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY: On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before - town - + Show Spoiler +#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts - town - + Show Spoiler +Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town - Scum - + Show Spoiler +I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read - Null - + Show Spoiler +#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
- Town - + Show Spoiler +I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads - Town - + Show Spoiler +#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened? Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim? No it wasn't. I could tell you who but maybe he really saved me!
Sure, wait until it's daytime.
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