EPTOn April 10 2016 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I up for a RB lynch if we got the people for it.
I up for a RB lynch if we got the people for it.
You being up for it makes me not up for it.
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
You being up for it makes me not up for it. | ||
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
Why? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:39 Gossemerr wrote: Can someone explain why we are adding lynch targets with 20 minutes left on the Day. We are going to end up with the EOD1 scenario... Bleh, you're right. Me or GB today guys. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
It's really simple. You have to think through mindsets. Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum" Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post + Show Spoiler + On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me. I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS. I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically. So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset. It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism: "Town acts like X Artanis didn't act like X Artanis isn't town" SIMPLE AS THAT | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
Because your only reason to vote for him, according to your filter and his, is because he is voting you. Or is there something I've missed? | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
A lot of gb feels nai though but this counter omgus type deal sort of feels like town gb. But I'm pretty behind,currently so skimming | ||
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:40 GlowingBear wrote: Why Artanis is Mafia It's really simple. You have to think through mindsets. Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum" Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post + Show Spoiler + On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me. I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS. I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically. So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset. It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism: "Town acts like X Artanis didn't act like X Artanis isn't town" SIMPLE AS THAT Why would Art push you so hard if you are town and he is mafia? You flip town basically makes Art look super scum and leads to next day lynch on himself. 1 town for 1 mafia is not a trade the scum team would be willing to take. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:40 GlowingBear wrote: Why Artanis is Mafia It's really simple. You have to think through mindsets. Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum" Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post + Show Spoiler + On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me. I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS. I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically. So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset. It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism: "Town acts like X Artanis didn't act like X Artanis isn't town" SIMPLE AS THAT This suggests I was certain on you being scum. I wasn't. I'm still not certain, as you would probably know if you read my case just now. I was less certain back then, and Fidei did something I thought was very scum indicative, especially since he rolled scum the game before. "Everyone knows playing DotA 2 hours before deadline after hearing you just ended up playing a game game when you rolled scum the game before isn't alignment indicative, especially knowing Fidei hates playing scum!" Yeah that makes sense. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
And honestly, Artanis' meta read on me was 100% accurate. I get horrible stage-fright as mafia. As town I'm usually pretty try-hard (or, at least, you should be able to see I care quite a lot about getting it right). The truth is, I was playing in a five stack with people I don't play with very often but like to, when the other option was being dumped into a mafia game I'd only just found out I was in, two hours before deadline. And mafia is hard work and dota is easy. But I don't think Artanis would have known that - certainly it wasn't clear from my posts. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
The same can be said about LS. It is completely weird that he doesn't have firm convictions. He is just okay with lynching either me or Artanis, and talks about lynching RB just when I inquire him. If both me and Artanis are town, he is probably mafia. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
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Gossemerr
United States195 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm going to laugh pretty hard if all scum are in the inactive non-voters btw. lmao | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:43 Gossemerr wrote: Why would Art push you so hard if you are town and he is mafia? You flip town basically makes Art look super scum and leads to next day lynch on himself. 1 town for 1 mafia is not a trade the scum team would be willing to take. Dude, pushing someone hard doesn't make anyone look bad. It's actually the opposite. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:40 Fidei86 wrote: Because your only reason to vote for him, according to your filter and his, is because he is voting you. Or is there something I've missed? His push in me does kinda feel the El classico way scum pushes me and he didn't really talk about his push with other people like you said. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
:-\ | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This suggests I was certain on you being scum. I wasn't. I'm still not certain, as you would probably know if you read my case just now. I was less certain back then, and Fidei did something I thought was very scum indicative, especially since he rolled scum the game before. "Everyone knows playing DotA 2 hours before deadline after hearing you just ended up playing a game game when you rolled scum the game before isn't alignment indicative, especially knowing Fidei hates playing scum!" Yeah that makes sense. Artanis, I've clearly asked you if you thought I was town for other reasons and you said you didn't. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK I WAS TOWN FOR NOTHING ELSE. IF YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN I'M MAFIA HOW CAN YOU KEEP PUSHING ME WITHOUT CONSIDERING ANYONE ELSE ROFL PLEASE | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 10 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote: It coups be t v t. Pretty easily I've scanned arts filter and the amount of try hard makes me feel like he's town. A lot of gb feels nai though but this counter omgus type deal sort of feels like town gb. But I'm pretty behind,currently so skimming I've seen him go after people he likes to go after all the time. Usually it's HF. I imagine he decided to pick me this game which makes sense given the opening where he already went after me a bit. I don't believe that that's alignment indicative. I do believe that how much he's tunneled into the read is though. | ||
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