EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4
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On March 03 2016 13:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: kush why the second account btw? Just confusing people calling me ns or noonian. | ||
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On March 03 2016 13:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: kush why the second account btw? if you mean why im not on kushm4sta anymore, it's because i primarily play at work and i thought that name would be inappropriate for work. at least the kush mountains is just a piece of land, having nothing to do with illegal substances. I don't even smoke weed anymore. | ||
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On March 04 2016 06:07 Koshi wrote: well if you can be removed from the game you can sit it out as well. Silence, you fool. | ||
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We've got Getript, the kid who's whiny as hell. He thinks TLMafia should be fair. The only thing that's fair in this forum is Miley Cyrus' hair, in gifs that ritoky posts. Koshi. He's been around the block a few times, but not in a good way. More like a 45 year old hooker who looks so ugly and worn down you just try to walk by and ignore her. Tumblewood. Who? He's another one of those instantly forgettable stiffs. [UoN]Sentinel. He kinda just sits there with his mouth open waiting for bugs to collect. Vivax. My old hydra partner. Over the years we've drifted apart though. We haven't been on friendly terms since I slept with his girl. Yamato. A pig with a badge. He's tried to lock me up but I'm too smart and too quick for him. Rels. Fresh blood, not yet tainted by all the modkils and lurkers. But TLMafia will burn him out just like the rest us, and that's as sure as the sun will rise. Alakaslam. I wouldn't turn my back to this coked-up screwball if my life depended on it. | ||
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On March 08 2016 07:59 Alakaslam wrote: I find this unlikely. How's it go folks, welcome to the game start wifom of Alakaslam. Let's see how fast I can earn a townread and subsequently lose it again. To which game are you referring? | ||
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On March 08 2016 08:01 Shapelog wrote: I am trying a new form of scum hunting, It's scientific! How'd that work for you last game? | ||
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So you are complaining about your scumplay, townplay, or both? | ||
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On March 08 2016 08:15 Alakaslam wrote: Back atcha! What does yours tell you? What can mine tell me? We have no clues! Shape can speak for himself, can't he? | ||
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On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote: A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? | ||
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On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote: Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? | ||
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So Vivax is most likely town? | ||
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On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote: Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? | ||
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On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote: Yup. Cool you dodged the question about commitment. And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. First you imply that he's most likely town, by saying scum would most likely just wait until morning. Then when I confront you about it, you backtrack and become super defensive. So that is behavior that concerns me. | ||
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I think as scum he usually gives a strong effort early to look townie, which I'm not seeing here. So I don't think a scumread is justified. | ||
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On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote: I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Two questions: Do you think getript honestly has a strong scumread of alakslam or is he posturing? Is part of the reason you townread getript because you agree with him about alakslam? | ||
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On March 08 2016 22:38 Rels wrote: To expand on geript, I liked how he entered the game with no bullshit and pushed his reads. And his reads are logical, they do not feel fabricated. To expand on Slam, I saw him troll as scum (outlaw) and be serious as town (smurf) so I don't think his "non-trolliness" is scum indicative. In Outlaw he had a serious early game. Anyway, I don't know where you are getting that getript's read on alakslam is logical. He is applying superficial meta to a couple joke phase posts alakaslam made. | ||
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On March 08 2016 22:39 Rels wrote: kush, any feel on tumble's single post ? big summary post with no conclusions. wait and see. | ||
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On December 27 2015 15:13 Alakaslam wrote: This is even worse. If you are going to parse implications with emotes into posts and then back out when called out, you are playing textbook scum that has been caught here before. So As either alignment you should rethink these ones. Why am I scum? Because as much as I H8 rayn (  ), I really respect his reads (most of the time) and he somehow has EXO as townSo You're next on my list unless you can prove that I have 1. Been asserting you were 100% scum before the 2. That you must prove, which is that the read I draw from your emotes and implications is based on a misunderstanding. So You have to prove that I was actually calling you scum before misunderstanding you later and calling you scum because you were backing out of implications. thats d1 from him. | ||
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On March 08 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote: I won't post a lot this game. The only reason I make this post is because I don't think I will post again in 4-7 hours and also that post might be very low content. I think I am ok with waiting 72 hours the first day. Obviously not passively. actually you'll probably be active as fuck and super invested and if you're not we'll lynch you. | ||
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On March 09 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote: I really get bored by post like this. After last game in which marv made exactly this post, and I was so fucking stupid to do it and even then he got his trash buddy to flame me some more I decided I will not be bothered to show any forced activity. And I just might not post at all the give all you fuckers a fucking reason to lynch me based on retarded shitty reasons. Why are you being hostile to me for expecting you to play the game? | ||
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How does this game fit that? He just kinda half trolled half didn't for half an hour then disappeared. I think the notion that slam is anything other than null is ridiculous. On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote: Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. wat..Want to expand on this? He has one summary post, and two townreads. Scum can make townreads just as easily as town can. Plus they are two fairly non-contested townreads so as scum he wouldn't lose mislynch possibilities with them. | ||
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yamato didn't have a case to push on that subject. vivax's read of shape disagreed with geript's read of shape. So yamato was asking if that made geript read vivax in a certain way. | ||
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On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote: here's a vote with secret reasons (for now): ##Vote tumblewood i can sheep this. I would say the reasons are just obvious rather than secret. | ||
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On March 09 2016 03:49 Shapelog wrote: Oh my bad if it is..... You bastard! You ruined the secret! I don't know about Vivax's reasons, but mine don't have anything to do with connection theories. He's got one summary post and two safe townreads. It just seems like exactly the type of posts scum at his level would make, in terms of content and quantity. | ||
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On March 09 2016 04:19 Shapelog wrote: We played with scum tumble, hell I was with him. When he started out (when i was mafia with him), he had big posts, Wot's, reads etc. on day 1. His last scum game (Team), he replaced in and gave semi-big reads. after the Mk on you and me i stop really reading that game. His town game(Devil) featured him doing more or less what he is doing here. So, from a meta point, he should be town. BUT, meta is not great to read tumble. He has been able to make his scum game look more like his town game (team vs XIX) and he is a newbie. Plus going off of the norm is not really that great to read many people. Unless I am missing something, but i highly doubt it. His first post was big. | ||
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to get a read of geript or to benefit from geript's insight? | ||
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On March 09 2016 04:28 Shapelog wrote: I will admit though. the use of [i] format that much is quite sus. Making everything into a "quote" is like the scummest thing you can do. the italics were because he was doing a noir flavor thing | ||
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On March 09 2016 05:27 Alakaslam wrote: This used to be true. Read the smurf game. Trying to catch up and really tired of dealing with this shit in multiple games now, thought I had created this hill... has it really been that long? he has already said he isn't taking the smurf game into account because it's a smurf game. | ||
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On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote: Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread. Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely. Still want to lynch Tumble. Why are mafia less likely to attack targets that have "done little of note"? | ||
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Yamato Rels Alakaslam | ||
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There is a big difference between calling people bad and using the language you are using. Vivax's insults shouldn't affect you as much as they do. I have seen him call Marv bad on multiple occasions. Do you think Marv is bad? He just says that when he thinks someone is wrong. | ||
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On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote: ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all. Saitama was quite better than that. About alakaslam: He's still null to me, and I'm not liking the points brought against him.
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It looks like the two wagons are tumble and alaka which are both good day 1 lynches. They are going to be question marks for the rest of the game anyway. Koshi, about yamato.. I actually liked his early game a lot. He said some things I was also thinking. Koshi, how do you feel about alaka or tumble? | ||
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On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote: My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night. So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem. He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads: On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote: do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you? Would you even care if we lynched you? To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions." His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"? I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against. | ||
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On March 10 2016 00:22 Vivax wrote: im actually unvoting slam cause my current opinion is that if we lynch slam geript and tumble we win the game easily. Since i dont see mafia being outside of these guys atm and gerupt doing a d1 insta bus is not impossible but unlikely, id rather have it my way than his, so im going to vote him or tumblewood and worry about slam later. tumble/geript looks almost just as unlikely to me. I wouldn't put it past experienced scum to "sheep" their teammate as kind of a tricky anti-meta thing to do, but I doubt tumble would. | ||
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Q1: Have you filtered Vivax? It seems to me you are scumreading not only for a bad reason (his question to you) but for a very small part of his total content. Q2: How did you decide you want to sheep geript on alakaslam? | ||
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No one's been a dick to you. If you don't feel like answering out questions that's fine. If you don't feel like playing at all maybe replace out? | ||
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Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.: On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote: "geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing". But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ?? | ||
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On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote: Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list. hmm If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town. | ||
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gonnna catch up. | ||
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On March 10 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote: Yeah I know that we need to lynch, But that tumble lynch was shit. The main people on that lynch were: Vivax: Reasons i quoted + hopefully a more helpful case (still reading) Kush: shitty Meta reasons, though i can believe that Town! kush is capable of that. Rels: just kinda of jumped on the wagon. Tell me that lynch was good. I mean just the fact that when people (regardless of alignment) jumped on for little reasoning is a bit sus. I can't even remember what Rels actually has said, I might filter him after this lynch due short time. the fuck are you even talking about. you are misrepresenting mine and rels reasons so badly. especially mine, which have NOTHING to do with meta. You used meta to defend him and I refuted it. That's the only time meta came into play. | ||
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On March 10 2016 15:43 geript wrote: Yeah. He's been my #2 for a while but I want to look at Rels, Kush and Koshi again. So you want to lynch the 4 towiest people in the game. For no reasons. You look like you aren't reading. Are you? What happened to your read on alaka? | ||
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On March 10 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote: Kush his initial reasoning was "WOW such good point by Rels, top town" Kush his second reasoning was ""WOW such good point by Rels, maybe it is mafia on mafia because it is so good" That second reasoning was just saying I think rels is town regardless of how alaka flips. Like his play is so townie That it would make more sense for it to be a bus then for him to be scum. That was not a reasoning for alaka. | ||
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Tumblewood Shapelog Yamato7 Alakaslam My sxumlist is way too long. I'm going to try to slim this down later | ||
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On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote: I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me. How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on. Come on Kush. Are we reading different games lol. Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific. | ||
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On the one hand, if you look at his content there is very very little there. On the other hand, how he's playing is just so infuriating, which is not something I associate with scum. | ||
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On March 10 2016 22:02 Koshi wrote: My biggest reason to suspect Rels is that has no conviction in solving the game and his reads. 1-"We need the info from the flip" 2- The push on Alakaslam 3- "geript 100% mafia even if Alakaslam isn't mafia" 4- The constant double reads. "x is mafia but x could be town because this reason" "x is town but could be mafia because y" 5- How he attempted to read me twice but cannot commit an alignment on me. I would feel better voting him first because I think he really is mafia but Vivax deserves to be out of this game. 1-Rels said we need d1 to end. I agree. D1 is the shittiest day and a longer d2 or d3 would be much more helpful. 2-His push on alaka was justified by reasons. 3-A little bit of an overreaction, but he wanted a flip and geript took it away from him. It's like dangling a chocolate in front of your face and pulling it away when you are about to bite it. I can see why that would make him mad. 4-I don't know whwy that's scummy. 5-So? | ||
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On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote: Mindmelding. I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree. For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town. You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going. I've remember some of your mindmelding and none of it is about why someone is scum. I don't see why scum can't mindmeld with you about townreads or what someone's intentions were. Have you ever played with scumShape? It's scary as fuck because he looks super town, writes a lot, and his tone is very happy and carefree. | ||
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On March 10 2016 09:05 yamato77 wrote: I think this is a poor case against Tumble. 1) Vivax did indeed spend a lot of the early game asking pointless questions about anatomy. He really only gave a solid read after I told him he was trash. Even since, he's been more interested in fighting with Koshi than finding mafia. It's pretty funny IMO. 2) Tumble expects SOMETHING from Slam as a defense. Why is sheeping a townread a bad thing, exactly? I don't agree with doing it but I can see how someone in his position does. Not a solid reason for a #1 scumread IMO. 1 I wasn't considering the anatomy questions. And Tumble shouldn't have been, since they were clearly in the domain of the joke phase. 2 Because he's sheeping a townread whose reasonign is some complicated meta thing he doesn't even understand. I can see sheeping a townreads reasoning but that's not what's happening here. | ||
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On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote: These posts seem quite incongruent. How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum? Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say. Because I don't think scum is capable of seeing that unless they know it's true. | ||
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On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote: kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing. i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far. | ||
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On March 10 2016 22:52 Vivax wrote: dude we don't have time for that. Just lynch slam please, if he's mafia gerupt is mafia easy game. you are getting distracted by stuff that's not relevant. dont pressure me bro! i have time today to read over everything and make a good decision. | ||
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On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote: Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible. ##Vote geript I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet. | ||
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what is unreasonable about that? I've been thinking about geript and trying to empathize with his play. His read on alaka was probably mostly posturing. | ||
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On March 10 2016 23:46 Alakaslam wrote: People liked to talk about Saitama a lot at the start of the game- but if they actually read him, they'd know that reads D1=\= the one and only path to good town play. Saitama gaves reads as I recall. How am I supposed to read you without reads? Help me. It looks like you just come in every now and then and leave NAI comments on things. | ||
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On March 11 2016 00:10 Alakaslam wrote: Geript I know fairly well. He is better at scum than you are supposing. Yamato could be an epic pocket of massive proportions because my tr is solely from agreeing with him a lot. Why does geript being better at scum make him less likely to be scum? | ||
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Vivax doesn't seem like scum to me. We bonded over reads on tumble and Alakaslam and shit. | ||
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Why are you against lynching alakaslam when just a few hoursago you re sure greipt saved his scumbud? | ||
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1 he's commonly mislynched day 1 2 he's easier to read in later days ? therefore vote slam. | ||
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On March 11 2016 04:19 Vivax wrote: forget it dude. It was possible in a game without koshi and yams, their stupidity even seems to be contagious for rels if he isnt mafia Forget it bro, it's TLMafia. | ||
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On March 11 2016 04:39 yamato77 wrote: Or he's just posting nonsense. You actually think shit like this makes him town? What a joke. So you think he's secretly thinking "damn yamato is smart. I'm just gonna insult him as my scumstrat haha." That doesn't seem likely to me. It's similar to townreading someone for "dick move analysis" or whatever people call it. | ||
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On March 11 2016 05:36 Koshi wrote: And how Vivax is not modkilled is beyond my understanding. i think you are more deserving but whatever. | ||
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On March 11 2016 05:47 Vivax wrote: There really is zero reason to not consider geript. He has been super absent lately, and none of his drive from the start of the day is left since he ninja unvoted slam. its probably just him and slam. Rels got infected by the k + y brain virus, and tumble is a noob. i am considering him dw. that's just my most likely guess atm. | ||
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yes it can refer to the opposite, but most of the time it doesn't. | ||
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And then when it mattered you saw sense and killed geript. | ||
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