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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 21 2016 18:03 GMT
#1401
I'm eating and thinking.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:16 GMT
#1402
On March 22 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

Yamato why was this scummy ?

Seems pretty clear that you're just appealing to geript setting up the me v you before actually having a geript read (by your own admission) but whatever.
Writer@WriterYamato
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:36 GMT
#1403
On March 22 2016 03:03 geript wrote:
I'm eating and thinking.

Shouldn't take too much time. I just posted two reasons that are both enough alone to make me town beyond reasonnable doubt.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:41 GMT
#1404
On March 22 2016 03:16 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

Yamato why was this scummy ?

Seems pretty clear that you're just appealing to geript setting up the me v you before actually having a geript read (by your own admission) but whatever.

Gotta admit I townread geript more than you at the time of that post. And I discarded it all when I reread your filters.
But it doesn't make sense for you to think that at the time, since doing that assumes that you have a geript townread too; after all, he did the same thing and you didn't call him out for that:
On March 20 2016 12:53 geript wrote:
Gonna read after a bit of dinner with friends. But I think I'll be voting for Rels.

On March 21 2016 00:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

The 'forget to submit' argument is bad at best. Yamato has had original thoughts. Like maybe I've been misreading him all game, but I seriously doubt it. I'd rather you explain your thought process behind how you instantly start believing the meta case on slam after defending him all day 1. Explain how you never start a wagon but join any wagon presented.

So either:
- you didn't townread geript at the time, so you're treating people that did the same thing with different conclusions
- you townread geript at the time more than me, so you did the exact same thing you fouind suspicious
Either way that doesn't make sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:42 GMT
#1405
This explanation is biaised by what happened since.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:42 GMT
#1406
Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia.

It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be.

If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:44 GMT
#1407
On March 22 2016 03:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 03:16 yamato77 wrote:
On March 22 2016 02:37 Rels wrote:
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

Yamato why was this scummy ?

Seems pretty clear that you're just appealing to geript setting up the me v you before actually having a geript read (by your own admission) but whatever.

Gotta admit I townread geript more than you at the time of that post. And I discarded it all when I reread your filters.
But it doesn't make sense for you to think that at the time, since doing that assumes that you have a geript townread too; after all, he did the same thing and you didn't call him out for that:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 12:53 geript wrote:
Gonna read after a bit of dinner with friends. But I think I'll be voting for Rels.

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2016 00:28 geript wrote:
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

The 'forget to submit' argument is bad at best. Yamato has had original thoughts. Like maybe I've been misreading him all game, but I seriously doubt it. I'd rather you explain your thought process behind how you instantly start believing the meta case on slam after defending him all day 1. Explain how you never start a wagon but join any wagon presented.

So either:
- you didn't townread geript at the time, so you're treating people that did the same thing with different conclusions
- you townread geript at the time more than me, so you did the exact same thing you fouind suspicious
Either way that doesn't make sense.

What geript did was not the same, he wasn't attempting to appeal to anyone, he was simply stating his intention.
Writer@WriterYamato
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:47 GMT
#1408
On March 22 2016 03:42 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia.

It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be.

If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case.

That is not true. I reread every post of yours and geript before making the decision of losing if geript is scum.
Since I've decided geript must be town to win, proving I'm town is as effective and proving you're scum. It's difficult to prove you're scum since you've done almost nothing and geript has a townfeel on your post which I can't fight since it's meta. And contrary to what you're affirming, I've actually did that, showing how you did the minimum after kush was modkilled and were never there at deadline appart from that time tumble's lynch wasn't secured. But it's way easier to prove I'm town since I've played with geript several times and I have a way to prove I'm town.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:50 GMT
#1409
On March 22 2016 03:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 03:42 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia.

It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be.

If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case.

That is not true. I reread every post of yours and geript before making the decision of losing if geript is scum.
Since I've decided geript must be town to win, proving I'm town is as effective and proving you're scum. It's difficult to prove you're scum since you've done almost nothing and geript has a townfeel on your post which I can't fight since it's meta. And contrary to what you're affirming, I've actually did that, showing how you did the minimum after kush was modkilled and were never there at deadline appart from that time tumble's lynch wasn't secured. But it's way easier to prove I'm town since I've played with geript several times and I have a way to prove I'm town.

It's truly not apparent from your posting here at lylo that you ever considered the possibility of geript being mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 21 2016 18:52 GMT
#1410
On March 22 2016 03:50 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 03:47 Rels wrote:
On March 22 2016 03:42 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia.

It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be.

If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case.

That is not true. I reread every post of yours and geript before making the decision of losing if geript is scum.
Since I've decided geript must be town to win, proving I'm town is as effective and proving you're scum. It's difficult to prove you're scum since you've done almost nothing and geript has a townfeel on your post which I can't fight since it's meta. And contrary to what you're affirming, I've actually did that, showing how you did the minimum after kush was modkilled and were never there at deadline appart from that time tumble's lynch wasn't secured. But it's way easier to prove I'm town since I've played with geript several times and I have a way to prove I'm town.

It's truly not apparent from your posting here at lylo that you ever considered the possibility of geript being mafia.

X2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:53 GMT
#1411
On March 22 2016 03:50 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 03:47 Rels wrote:
On March 22 2016 03:42 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia.

It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be.

If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case.

That is not true. I reread every post of yours and geript before making the decision of losing if geript is scum.
Since I've decided geript must be town to win, proving I'm town is as effective and proving you're scum. It's difficult to prove you're scum since you've done almost nothing and geript has a townfeel on your post which I can't fight since it's meta. And contrary to what you're affirming, I've actually did that, showing how you did the minimum after kush was modkilled and were never there at deadline appart from that time tumble's lynch wasn't secured. But it's way easier to prove I'm town since I've played with geript several times and I have a way to prove I'm town.

It's truly not apparent from your posting here at lylo that you ever considered the possibility of geript being mafia.

I did. Because I didn't post while I was reading his filter doesn't mean I didn't weight it against yours.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:55 GMT
#1412
I could definitely just be in confirmation bias mode but I'm not sure it even matters
Writer@WriterYamato
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:56 GMT
#1413
If geript is scum it's lost anyway
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 21 2016 18:56 GMT
#1414
The big things for me are: your towncase is interesting but it's basically "I wouldn't do X as Scum" which sounds more true than it often is and that it's a big appeal to my ego (a good one at that).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 18:58 GMT
#1415
On March 22 2016 03:56 geript wrote:
The big things for me are: your towncase is interesting but it's basically "I wouldn't do X as Scum" which sounds more true than it often is and that it's a big appeal to my ego (a good one at that).

Town case proved I was town without ambiguity.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 18:59 GMT
#1416
"I would kill geript over conftown Koshi" is not a good argument lol
Writer@WriterYamato
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 19:01 GMT
#1417
"geript would be dead N1" is though
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 19:03 GMT
#1418
not if you actually forgot to submit lol
Writer@WriterYamato
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 19:04 GMT
#1419
On March 22 2016 04:03 yamato77 wrote:
not if you actually forgot to submit lol

1 - That's the first reason I can't be scum.
2 - Then he would be dead N2.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 19:08 GMT
#1420
That's just not a compelling argument at all really

Nightkills have a lot more behind them than just "I think this person is good as town"
Writer@WriterYamato
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