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On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
This is quite false but we will see what happens
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On March 10 2016 23:19 Vivax wrote:
m isnt as scummy as me.
then slam claims scum.
geript does the only possible thing to keep trying to win and unvotes slam.
ta-da
I appreciate the huge insult to my intelligence behind believing this plan.
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On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:
Slam did you set on who is the scumteam from your POV ?
No.
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On March 10 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato? Scum if Slam is not. Why is he not scum with Slam? Because geript is scum. See the post above. Then you can vote him.
You are scum or a fool. Unflipped associations for starters which is known bad play.
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Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility.
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On March 10 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Slam can you please throw out some reads pls. Otherwise you are going to get lynched... Not by me but people are going to get suckered in by Vivax and Rels.
People liked to talk about Saitama a lot at the start of the game- but if they actually read him, they'd know that reads D1=\= the one and only path to good town play.
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On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then?
We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing.
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Actually I can do TR.
Geript and Koshi, very strong (note my first vote is in fact Geript! It's also the shortest duration vote in the game!)
Yamato, fairly strong
Kush, solid but not strong.
The rest I could easily question either way. I am not solid on anyone being scum, but my highest probabilities right now are of course Vivax and one of Rels/Shapelog.
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On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited.
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On March 10 2016 23:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:46 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Slam can you please throw out some reads pls. Otherwise you are going to get lynched... Not by me but people are going to get suckered in by Vivax and Rels. People liked to talk about Saitama a lot at the start of the game- but if they actually read him, they'd know that reads D1=\= the one and only path to good town play. Saitama gaves reads as I recall. How am I supposed to read you without reads? Help me. It looks like you just come in every now and then and leave NAI comments on things.
Not D1 I didn't; I was scumread most if not all of D1.
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On March 10 2016 23:50 Vivax wrote:
koshi must have started biking or got mugged cause at some point in the past year he seems to have taken heavy hits to the head
This is the Blazinghandic scum advice; are you aware of this or should I explain the story?
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On March 10 2016 23:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:50 Vivax wrote:
koshi must have started biking or got mugged cause at some point in the past year he seems to have taken heavy hits to the head This is the Blazinghandic scum advice; are you aware of this or should I explain the story? btw explain the story, I could use something worth reading at this point
There once was a time when I did not share the icon of battling the freeways of space, but rather a scientific instrument + Show Spoiler + Battlecruiser and Probe respectively
This Blazinghand deigned to teach me the way of the Mafia. I promptly started to lose, and his advice at that time was to begin savagely insulting the town (go give cunnilingus to your grandmother, go consume feces and contract a fatal disease, you are a worthless man of little or no intelligence, and the like)
Failing to heed his advice, I was lynched, but my partner survived a good while following.
We did still lose however.
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Thinking of that time period: Page 35 ftw
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On March 11 2016 00:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2016 00:00 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:53 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. Tell me then, why is Vivax scum ? Because being an obnoxious little piece of shit has been his main goal this game? No. Maybe to you, but as a whole he posted read and interrogated people and I've agreed with everything he's said. Coupling that with his meta of being passive as scum, he's super likely town. Stop saying I'm revisiting you and Shape all the time. That is not scum indicative, and that is also wrong. Shape was likely town in my mind early in the game, and you were not long after. But even if I wasn't sure on you, that is not scum indicative. Maybe to me? Ofc it is to me. I had a post with 6 quotes in which he just flames me. He had before that 2 more of those. I only called him mafia. Nothing else. It's a fucking disgrace to play like that. If that is town Vivax. Well fuck him then. He should be fucking shot in the face.
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On March 10 2016 23:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Actually I can do TR.
Geript and Koshi, very strong (note my first vote is in fact Geript! It's also the shortest duration vote in the game!)
Yamato, fairly strong
Kush, solid but not strong.
The rest I could easily question either way. I am not solid on anyone being scum, but my highest probabilities right now are of course Vivax and one of Rels/Shapelog. Why geript and yamato town ?
Geript I know fairly well. He is better at scum than you are supposing.
Yamato could be an epic pocket of massive proportions because my tr is solely from agreeing with him a lot.
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On March 11 2016 00:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2016 00:10 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:58 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Actually I can do TR.
Geript and Koshi, very strong (note my first vote is in fact Geript! It's also the shortest duration vote in the game!)
Yamato, fairly strong
Kush, solid but not strong.
The rest I could easily question either way. I am not solid on anyone being scum, but my highest probabilities right now are of course Vivax and one of Rels/Shapelog. Why geript and yamato town ? Geript I know fairly well. He is better at scum than you are supposing. Yamato could be an epic pocket of massive proportions because my tr is solely from agreeing with him a lot. Why does geript being better at scum make him less likely to be scum?
Because if he is scum this game, he is playing poorly- and he doesn't play poorly? I get your point here though.
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On March 11 2016 00:29 Rels wrote:
Slam if you're town and not the lynch I expect a saitama-like N1.
I'll give town a D2 I think
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On March 11 2016 00:31 Koshi wrote:
D2 is already filled lynching you.
However I am not this certain of anything.
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On March 11 2016 04:23 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:48 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:43 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato? Scum if Slam is not. Why is he not scum with Slam? Because geript is scum. See the post above. Then you can vote him. You are scum or a fool. Unflipped associations for starters which is known bad play. There is no unflipped association. My scumreads by order of strongness are geript => you => yamato => tumble. geript's reason for unvoting you was unflipped association. My scumreads have no unflipped association. Let's talk about my unflipped associations more. Vote count was like 5-2-1-1. Pretend Slam is Mafia, you basically have to imagine scum team is like Slam/Tumble--basically a team that has no thread pull whatsoever. Maybe Slam/Vivax but that's not a highly likely pair on how they've been so happy to vote for each other. On of the big advantages of having less time to devote to Mafia, is spending less time playing Mafia so I can be more objective. In a mini-mini like this, votes and pushes count for more. You can make actual team theories usefully. Plus, I wasn't even making associations. I was the only person happy with that lynch. It's odd that despite the case being around for 40 hours or so, it catches on with ~6 hours til lynch. Especially since 60% of the people had fought for other lynches, lynches who they're voting with on a tacit lynch. Look at the facts. My godread is more likely to be wrong than right given the circumstances. Oh and in regards to needing to lynch, let's put that post in perspective. At the time ~30 hours into the game 4 people are voting for 4 different people with no clear consensus and no move towards one. That's no good for town.
This is another ancillary to my earlier answer to someone on why Geript is town
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On March 11 2016 04:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2016 04:19 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2016 04:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
isn't it common knowledge that it's a terrible idea to kill vivax day 1 because
1 he's commonly mislynched day 1
2 he's easier to read in later days
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therefore vote slam. forget it dude. It was possible in a game without koshi and yams, their stupidity even seems to be contagious for rels if he isnt mafia Forget it bro, it's TLMafia.
It's interesting how Dunning Kruger works both ways.
Using this effect as an insult is (or should be) unheard of since it is by nature a double-edged sword.
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