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These posts seem quite incongruent.
On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think ima vote alakaslam. Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.: Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever. "geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing". But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ?? On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi? Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you. Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.
On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list. hmm If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.
How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?
Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.
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Looking at Rels, as his kneejerk reactions to Slam and geript give me pause
On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? kush pressures Shape into giving a read. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion. Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually. But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me". I also didn't like these: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness? Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town? Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment.And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above. Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.
I completely disagreed with how he interpreted Shape's early game. I thought Shape's responses to Vivax were town indicative. Anyone that's able to post as much as he was as freely as he was probably isn't mafia.
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On March 10 2016 09:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:These posts seem quite incongruent. On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think ima vote alakaslam. Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.: On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever. "geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing". But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ?? On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi? Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you. Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind. On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list. hmm If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town. How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum? Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say. And you'd be wrong. Kush can completely feel this way genuinely without being anything other than "in the future"; seeing Rels good points, he agrees. But, upon deciding I am likely town, he re-analyzes Rels push as possibly scum motivated, due to the reasons he stated. This clarification in no way means I agree with him. I have put no thought into it at all.
Where did he decide you were town? In his filter he says he thinks you're mafia because he agrees with Rels' point, and says he's going to vote you. But then he doesn't? And makes that post? Questionable play.
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On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:I don't like this from Vivax: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently scum points for you and town points for kush Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.
This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question.
On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.
A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.
yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.
Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).
Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.
geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.
I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here.
Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess.
On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.
Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum."
Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE
I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.
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My reads, as of now:
Town
Slam (Reading his filter gives a green impression)
Koshi (just horribly wrong)
Tumble (Agrees with me on Vivax, maintains silly noir thing that costs effort)
Shapelog (early game was obv town and is a consensus townread)
Null
Geript (???)
Kush (posted reasons to doubt kush's alignment)
Rels (inconsistent read progression on multiple players, kneejerk "LYNCH THIS GUY" behavior at the expense of his other reads)
Mafia
Vivax (lol)
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On March 10 2016 09:42 Vivax wrote:
For the love of god just find a townie to sheep and stop posting reads yams.
Slam has been HIJOLE all game long, he gave up cause of overwhelming HIJOLE cause hes mafia, gerupt unvoted his #1 scumread after the scumread claimed scum.
If Rels wasn't enough to make you understand it's slam and gerupt, you should really quit this game
lol
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On March 10 2016 09:51 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 09:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 09:49 Vivax wrote:
after this dreadful day the mafia actually realized they can win To be sure. Obs QT note the glory of my prophecy: Scumteam: Slam, Yamato
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On March 10 2016 09:58 Tumblewood wrote:
Slam opened up a bottle of chardonnay, and then a riesling. Without turning to face me, he began, "I foresee my own death tomorrow, but tonight we drink. Take either glass." He finished pouring the second, and stared at me. After a while, he nodded, prodded me to choose one. I knew that one of the bottles was poisoned, it had to be: Only, I was no connoisseur-- how was I to tell which one?
I think Slam is meta-WIFOMing or whatever that means and yamato isn't scum by implication of his post. So, if yamato is the riesling and people who aren't yamato are the chardonnay, I'm drinking the chardonnay.
So you, like everyone else seemingly, are convinced that Slam is actually mafia?
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Geript, will you give me the lynch of justice and let me behead Vivax with my mighty sword?
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Consider what I said about Rels and Kush.
Koshi I doubt is worth looking too much into. I don't think he goes off the rails like this as mafia just because I insulted him. Him being hilariously wrong =/= him being mafia.
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On March 11 2016 00:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:53 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. Tell me then, why is Vivax scum ? Because being an obnoxious little piece of shit has been his main goal this game? No. Maybe to you, but as a whole he posted read and interrogated people and I've agreed with everything he's said. Coupling that with his meta of being passive as scum, he's super likely town. Stop saying I'm revisiting you and Shape all the time. That is not scum indicative, and that is also wrong. Shape was likely town in my mind early in the game, and you were not long after. But even if I wasn't sure on you, that is not scum indicative.
Newsflash, Vivax' play this game IS passive.
His townplay is so much more involved than this. Him continually wasting his time calling Koshi and I bad is exactly what I would expect from a scum Vivax.
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Rels, if you're town, you should realize that Vivax is literally just echoing YOUR reads at this point. Does he have legitimate reasons of his own to find those players mafia? No.
He's wasted most of his posting this game with ad hominem attacks on two players. And you call that "interrogating people" I guess. Kind of a joke tbh.
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I'm literally never lynching Slam lmao.
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On March 11 2016 00:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2016 00:08 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, you should realize that Vivax is literally just echoing YOUR reads at this point. Does he have legitimate reasons of his own to find those players mafia? No.
He's wasted most of his posting this game with ad hominem attacks on two players. And you call that "interrogating people" I guess. Kind of a joke tbh. THe joke is that after being around for as long as I have you still are at the level you were at the time of LVIII, the only game in which I didn't get lynched as scum. I went to reread your read on me in that game, obviously as shit as ever. You townread me when im mafia and scumread me when im town. The only way to sheep your reads is to do the opposite of what they say.
lol
I love how I'm just confirmed town to you this entire game basically for no reason, lmao.
Rels, you say this man thinks about his reads, but I literally haven't seen him think about his read on me the entire game. Same with Koshi. He's super content just calling us bad town the entire game. And you buy it! What a joke.
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On March 11 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2016 00:12 yamato77 wrote:On March 11 2016 00:10 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2016 00:08 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, if you're town, you should realize that Vivax is literally just echoing YOUR reads at this point. Does he have legitimate reasons of his own to find those players mafia? No.
He's wasted most of his posting this game with ad hominem attacks on two players. And you call that "interrogating people" I guess. Kind of a joke tbh. THe joke is that after being around for as long as I have you still are at the level you were at the time of LVIII, the only game in which I didn't get lynched as scum. I went to reread your read on me in that game, obviously as shit as ever. You townread me when im mafia and scumread me when im town. The only way to sheep your reads is to do the opposite of what they say. lol I love how I'm just confirmed town to you this entire game basically for no reason, lmao. Rels, you say this man thinks about his reads, but I literally haven't seen him think about his read on me the entire game. Same with Koshi. He's super content just calling us bad town the entire game. And you buy it! What a joke. The reason is that I actually learned how to read people over time
Yes, because you as town have an AMAZING track record of reading me, right?
lol
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honestly I'm done reading Vivax's posts if this is how he wants to play.
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On March 11 2016 04:09 Tumblewood wrote:
Vivax's Shape comment is weird coming from scum; they'd just put it in their QT.
Of course, that's also weird coming from town, but less so.
It's just bullshit that he's posting.
Honestly, ignore him. Scum in death throes quite obviously.
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On March 11 2016 04:13 Vivax wrote:
Yamato is just the purest dunning kruger example you can have. Thinks hes good at reading me but lost a lylo for town in which I correctly identified damdred being scum instead of him.
If you're town, you're quite literally throwing the game with how you've chosen to play.
Insulting players non-stop and claiming you know who is blue is counter-productive.
If this is how you play as town now then whatever, you won't be missed.
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On March 11 2016 04:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
isn't it common knowledge that it's a terrible idea to kill vivax day 1 because
1 he's commonly mislynched day 1
2 he's easier to read in later days
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therefore vote slam.
that's a dumb argument
never liked it, never will
he can play the game, he just isn't
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On March 11 2016 04:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
i mean it's pretty clear vivax believes yamato is an idiot. which he wouldn't if he was scum, because yamato would be right.
Or he's just posting nonsense.
You actually think shit like this makes him town?
What a joke.
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