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On March 09 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
I won't post a lot this game. The only reason I make this post is because I don't think I will post again in 4-7 hours and also that post might be very low content. I think I am ok with waiting 72 hours the first day. Obviously not passively. actually you'll probably be active as fuck and super invested and if you're not we'll lynch you.
I really get bored by post like this. After last game in which marv made exactly this post, and I was so fucking stupid to do it and even then he got his trash buddy to flame me some more I decided I will not be bothered to show any forced activity.
And I just might not post at all the give all you fuckers a fucking reason to lynch me based on retarded shitty reasons.
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On March 09 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
I won't post a lot this game. The only reason I make this post is because I don't think I will post again in 4-7 hours and also that post might be very low content. I think I am ok with waiting 72 hours the first day. Obviously not passively. actually you'll probably be active as fuck and super invested and if you're not we'll lynch you. I really get bored by post like this. After last game in which marv made exactly this post, and I was so fucking stupid to do it and even then he got his trash buddy to flame me some more I decided I will not be bothered to show any forced activity. And I just might not post at all the give all you fuckers a fucking reason to lynch me based on retarded shitty reasons.
Why are you being hostile to me for expecting you to play the game?
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On March 09 2016 01:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote:On March 09 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
I won't post a lot this game. The only reason I make this post is because I don't think I will post again in 4-7 hours and also that post might be very low content. I think I am ok with waiting 72 hours the first day. Obviously not passively. actually you'll probably be active as fuck and super invested and if you're not we'll lynch you. I really get bored by post like this. After last game in which marv made exactly this post, and I was so fucking stupid to do it and even then he got his trash buddy to flame me some more I decided I will not be bothered to show any forced activity. And I just might not post at all the give all you fuckers a fucking reason to lynch me based on retarded shitty reasons. Why are you being hostile to me for expecting you to play the game?
Because I explained how I would prefer to play this game and you feel like you can boss me around and tell me how I should play or get lynched. Therefore my answer is Fuck You.
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On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? kush pressures Shape into giving a read. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion. Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually. But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me". I also didn't like these: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness? Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town? Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment.And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above. Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.
I wasn't trying to attack him, but it did come off that way i guess. Idk, in the past as town/blue i get scum read for giving nulls so blah.
About the last post about dodging, I wanted to know what Kush's mindset was for the pressure on me so i could figure out his aligment and not just sit and defend. Which i got:
On March 08 2016 09:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment. And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. First you imply that he's most likely town, by saying scum would most likely just wait until morning. Then when I confront you about it, you backtrack and become super defensive. So that is behavior that concerns me.
But I can see now where you are coming from. I should of prob. have stated something like, "What made you..." or something like that instead of the cocky "Cool you dodged the question about commitment."
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On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw.
Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts.
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On March 08 2016 23:48 Koshi wrote:
No scratch that. I will reply to direct questions. However, I will not do things if they are directly asked to me, so don't ask me to give reads or something.
What is your favorite color of a bomb pop to eat?
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On March 08 2016 22:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@getript how long has it been since you'll played with alakaslam? Tone-wise he's gotten a lot darker as of late.
I think as scum he usually gives a strong effort early to look townie, which I'm not seeing here. So I don't think a scumread is justified.
Don't know. But there have been longer gaps and meta has always been accurate. He always tries to look however he thinks he'll be town read (as Mafia). It's not the same thing. Plus, it's not like Slam doesn't know about my godread on him.
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Sadly I already made something and I don't want to delete it because it is pure brilliance. And because I was a bit mean to Rels last game and his VE read when I entered the thread. Therefore I will correct his yamato read and explain it.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.
Unsurprisingly. On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.
Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.
Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.
Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.
1) The geript read + how he involves alakaslam,shape and Vivax. It just doesn't do it for me. Why is geript mafia for wanting to lynch alakslam? Why is geript mafia for thinking shape is newb town? Why is geript mafia for saying Vivax is a dick? geript explained his Shape read pretty clearly. I don't understand where yamato his confusion comes from. I also don't understand why yamato adds his own opinion of Shape in his geript segment, but fails to explain why it makes geript mafia. The entire paragraph just doesn't make sense from town perspective who is figuring out geript. Because Yamato isn't figuring out geript at all, he is correcting/doubting things geript said and then implies geript is wrong and therefore mafia. Or at least that is how this entire segment feels like. Because he doesn't really conclude anything on geript in the end. It's an open ending that we can fill in.
2) I don't see the connection between his opening post about lynching Vivax and the follow up in the geript segment. It could be that yamato his opening post is stating/complaining about the fact Vivax is offtopic as fuck. He confronts Vivax about that later again but without trying to solve the game or do anything. It's so meek. What is this read? + Show Spoiler +Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.
3) I get the feeling that the Kush read and the Tumble read are "correct" reads mafia gives. Simple structured reads based on TMI but throwaway. Mafia yamato knows these 2 are town and then finds a reason to call them town. It is the same for the Shape read within the geript read btw. These reads feel like coming from mafia. Or really good town being in the zone but then I wonder what the fuck the geript/vivax vomitting was all about.
I think town yamato would have approached this entirely different, a town yamato would be able to express and structure himself a lot clearer in his first read post. Figure out players individually and not inappropriate mix in geript in every read. Yamato his reads just don't seem to be coming from a townie trying to solve the game. I feel it is a mafia giving reads through discrediting somebody else his reads. I can't explain it. Just doesn't look town.
##vote Yamato
some tinfoil:
I was wondering why yamato is so focussed on geript. It doesn't feel natural yamato starts his read post by reading geript giving reads on 3 other people. Discrediting geript? Scumbuddies? Tilting geript? I don't know. Might have something to do with Slam but maybe completely not.
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Goddamn I already made a mistake. He does come to a conclusion about geript. He doesn't scumread him. Hmm. Annoying. Still. Why structure it like that. I still don't like it. But that part is wrong.
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I just need yamato or somebody else to tell me why yamato feels the need to explain a Vivax, Shape and slam read through geript who he doesn't even scumread.
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On March 09 2016 02:05 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 23:48 Koshi wrote:
No scratch that. I will reply to direct questions. However, I will not do things if they are directly asked to me, so don't ask me to give reads or something. What is your favorite color of a bomb pop to eat?
I don't know what that is but I like this.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not the biggest fan of water based icecream.
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Anyway mafia is within this:
yamato77
Vivax
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really.
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Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum.
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On March 09 2016 02:11 Koshi wrote:
I just need yamato or somebody else to tell me why yamato feels the need to explain a Vivax, Shape and slam read through geript who he doesn't even scumread.
Only reason i can see is that he was maybe establishing his point of views about the game. The vivax and the slam ones IMO is ok (as it relates to gerpit), but the kush and tumble ones were a bit random.
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On March 09 2016 02:20 Koshiusis wrote:
Anyway mafia is within this:
yamato77
Vobby
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really.
Other than Yamato and Slam (understand where you got these) and Geript(because it seems like you are not sure). May I ask why you place Rels and Vobby here?
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This is what, my 4th game with tumble (4/4 of his games played here.) Last game I jumped to quickly to TR him because of his reads and i did not catch how weak they really are. He has changed his scum game slightly with that last game.
However, nothing so far is rasieng red flags from Tumble. If he was scum, he would have more to profit from letting me and kush continue than posting #130. I doubt also that Tumble stuck his neck out just to buddy me.
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Basically I am ok (ish) giving tumble a slight (slight) town lean right now. Also he could of pressed Kush about the situation (as he seemed to take my side? Or atleast that is how it came off as.) and prob. could get away with sus. on kush with it following his read progression.
It's a start.
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On March 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:20 Koshiusis wrote:
Anyway mafia is within this:
yamato77
Vobby
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really. Other than Yamato and Slam (understand where you got these) and Geript(because it seems like you are not sure). May I ask why you place Rels and Vobby here?
rels looks town but I want to be cautious.
Vivax hasn't done anything townie, he could easily be mafia. And he could be very easily be mafia with yamato.
On March 08 2016 16:46 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 16:36 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.
otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard. Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this. I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny. for estimated 6 months jat has been bugging me about me intentionally making my D1 shittastic, not my fault if you dont follow whats happening on the forum and in qts So I'm just supposed to take that at face value? No thank you. No one gets metagame passes just because they want to be lazy as mafia. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 16:36 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable. Not giving Shape a pass for being a noob. Besides, people never understand how I read Slam or most anyone. But I'm always right. I would've figured you would've learned by now.
You clearly did give him a pass, but that's not really relevant, I don't actually think he's mafia. But Vivax apparently does, what do you think about that?The false bravado in the accuracy of your reads does nothing to make you more trustworthy in my eyes. "No one understands my reads!" is the mafia equivalent of a teenager yelling at their parents because they don't have the latest iPhone.
The bolded is only explainable if yamato is figuring out geript by asking him about his scumbuddy Vivax.
On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.
otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard. Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this. I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny.
The above is a good post by yamato (if Vviax is mafia) but for this reason I can see it be scum on scum. Not that yamato is not a good player and capable of making such a read town on mafia.
But I don't know. yamato/Vivax.. I need to see more of those 2.
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My point with above post is that for how good the post by yamato on Vivax was, he doesn't want to convince geript that Vivax is mafia.
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On March 09 2016 02:46 Koshi wrote:
My point with above post is that for how good the post by yamato on Vivax was, he doesn't want to convince geript that Vivax is mafia.
That's an interesting point.
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