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On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.
Not giving Shape a pass for being a noob. Besides, people never understand how I read Slam or most anyone. But I'm always right. I would've figured you would've learned by now.
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On March 08 2016 16:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.
otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard. Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this. I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny. for estimated 6 months jat has been bugging me about me intentionally making my D1 shittastic, not my fault if you dont follow whats happening on the forum and in qts
So I'm just supposed to take that at face value?
No thank you. No one gets metagame passes just because they want to be lazy as mafia.
On March 08 2016 16:36 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable. Not giving Shape a pass for being a noob. Besides, people never understand how I read Slam or most anyone. But I'm always right. I would've figured you would've learned by now.
You clearly did give him a pass, but that's not really relevant, I don't actually think he's mafia. But Vivax apparently does, what do you think about that?
The false bravado in the accuracy of your reads does nothing to make you more trustworthy in my eyes. "No one understands my reads!" is the mafia equivalent of a teenager yelling at their parents because they don't have the latest iPhone.
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I couldn't care less about Vivax so long as he votes for Slam. I don't have any accurate meta read on him and there's obvious scum.
Do you really want me to post a page and a half discourse about why Slam plays Mafia and how he approaches playing from both sides? Do you really want me to show you how he's not trolling? On top of that do you want me to show you how he's even not trolling how he does when he's scum? I've made this case like idk 4-5 times previously. I'm always right about it.
Game is simple. I find 1 scum and figure out if you're town and if Koshi is town. Literally all I need to do.
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I don't necessarily disagree with your plan but it doesn't exactly inspire faith either.
I do need convincing on Slam, though. I don't think he's trolling either, his posting seems lazy, but does that mean he's mafia?
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So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum.
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On March 08 2016 17:03 yamato77 wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree with your plan but it doesn't exactly inspire faith either.
Well I'm either dead N1 and correct on the scum team or I'm correct on the scum team and no one listens to what I post. So I'm just aiming for blaming everyone else for not listening to me after dying N1.
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I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town?
kush pressures Shape into giving a read.
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.
This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion.
Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually.
But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me".
I also didn't like these:
On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness? Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town? Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious.
On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment.And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now.
Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above.
Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.
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I don't like this from Vivax:
On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently scum points for you and town points for kush
On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is
Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.
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Tumble what do you think of kush ?
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On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum.
I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him.
geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw.
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Other slight townreads:
kush, for being invested in solving the game.
yamato, for being invested in solving the game.
It's super early so it's easily fakable so it's slight townreads.
Slight scumread:
Koshi for not being there when he should be awake by now. Koshi usually posts aaaaaaaaalll the time as town, and has a way harder time posting as scum.
Obviously it could be explained by IRL too so it's very slight.
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Vote Count - Day 1
Alakaslam (1): geript
Not Voting (8): Koshi, Tumblewood, Shapelog, nnn_thekushmountains, Vivax, yamato77, Rels, Alakaslam
At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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@getript how long has it been since you'll played with alakaslam? Tone-wise he's gotten a lot darker as of late.
I think as scum he usually gives a strong effort early to look townie, which I'm not seeing here. So I don't think a scumread is justified.
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On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw.
Two questions:
Do you think getript honestly has a strong scumread of alakslam or is he posturing?
Is part of the reason you townread getript because you agree with him about alakslam?
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On March 08 2016 22:34 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Two questions: Do you think getript honestly has a strong scumread of alakslam or is he posturing? Is part of the reason you townread getript because you agree with him about alakslam?
Yes and no.
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To expand on geript, I liked how he entered the game with no bullshit and pushed his reads. And his reads are logical, they do not feel fabricated.
To expand on Slam, I saw him troll as scum (outlaw) and be serious as town (smurf) so I don't think his "non-trolliness" is scum indicative.
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kush, any feel on tumble's single post ?
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On March 08 2016 22:38 Rels wrote:
To expand on geript, I liked how he entered the game with no bullshit and pushed his reads. And his reads are logical, they do not feel fabricated.
To expand on Slam, I saw him troll as scum (outlaw) and be serious as town (smurf) so I don't think his "non-trolliness" is scum indicative.
In Outlaw he had a serious early game.
Anyway, I don't know where you are getting that getript's read on alakslam is logical.
He is applying superficial meta to a couple joke phase posts alakaslam made.
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On March 08 2016 22:39 Rels wrote:
kush, any feel on tumble's single post ?
big summary post with no conclusions. wait and see.
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