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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 18:54 GMT
#821
On March 02 2016 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi is town. I am town. kush is town. VE is probably town. sandroba/qob are town.

4 slots left.

On March 01 2016 21:57 Rels wrote:
How what I described town indicative for VE ? Here is a summary of scummy stuff:
- having a stretched meta reason to scumread TT (super slight 'cause it's a early D1 read)
- not re evaluating read when said meta reason is proven wrong
- leaving the thread when attacked
- over explaining how his read made sense so he should not be considered scum ever
- being generally usuless

Are all these things actually town indicative for him ?

Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 18:59 GMT
#822
On March 02 2016 03:09 Spikasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.


Dude, you should just go back and look at his question. It was quite clear. The ball was not in his court. It was in yours and it still is. Refusing to participate is a mafia-aligned.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:02 GMT
#823
On March 02 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me.

Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you.

I don't understand your reason for scumreading marv. He has strong opinions; in your case he's more nuanced but it's not a global remark. Someone being not sure about someone else is not scum indicative.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#824
On March 02 2016 03:59 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 03:09 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.


Dude, you should just go back and look at his question. It was quite clear. The ball was not in his court. It was in yours and it still is. Refusing to participate is a mafia-aligned.


There's so many irrelevant questions, I don't even know which is the right one.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#825
I agree that TheCow filter is bullshit and Damdred is not super implicated apart from that one smart read, which could be scum indicative.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:05 GMT
#826
On March 01 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I really want you to explain why:
1) I am mafia.
2) You are sure that the 3 teams presented by Kush are all town.
3) Why Kush is not mafia for pushing 3 teams that are town in your mind.


Oh is this what you're referring to? I had already replied to this. When I called you wally (which you shouldn't have taken offence to, btw, it's friendly banter where I'm from), I had before written I was saying of the three teams, the top one (my team) was town. Not taking his readings. Just a fun way to say 'we're town'. Much like you with you pro tip --

On March 01 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:47 TheCow wrote:
Rels is almost definitely town.

Pro tip: Team Koshi is town.

I think this is a pretty good tip.


1) was already covered and backtracked. However I'll admit I didn't respond to the third, though don't see its importance now.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
March 01 2016 19:06 GMT
#827
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 19:12 GMT
#828
On March 02 2016 04:05 Spikasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I really want you to explain why:
1) I am mafia.
2) You are sure that the 3 teams presented by Kush are all town.
3) Why Kush is not mafia for pushing 3 teams that are town in your mind.


Oh is this what you're referring to? I had already replied to this. When I called you wally (which you shouldn't have taken offence to, btw, it's friendly banter where I'm from), I had before written I was saying of the three teams, the top one (my team) was town. Not taking his readings. Just a fun way to say 'we're town'. Much like you with you pro tip --

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:47 TheCow wrote:
Rels is almost definitely town.

Pro tip: Team Koshi is town.

I think this is a pretty good tip.


1) was already covered and backtracked. However I'll admit I didn't respond to the third, though don't see its importance now.


The major difference is that you say you are town too (that means, you are town in addition to the two other teams). Koshi just says HE is town. Do you have any reason YOURSELF to think the two other teams on the list are town?

Also, the third question is the most important one so you should elaborate on it.

Finally, that Wally post did NOT answer the above three questions so don't try to give the impression that you were working along with Koshi, because you weren't.

On March 01 2016 20:11 Spikasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 20:10 marvellosity wrote:
I told Spikasaur to ignore Koshi but he ignore me too :p


Always.

"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
qob
Profile Joined February 2016
84 Posts
March 01 2016 19:12 GMT
#829
i trust sandroba's reads over mine on everyone except team anal and thecow. i will report back when im not in class lol.
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 19:14 GMT
#830
On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.




Can you explain your gut read? Which posts give you scummy feelings inside?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:15 GMT
#831
I'm OK lynching:

VE (only one read that doesn't evolve with the thread, fixed on proving he is making sense instead of being interested by new events, useless) / bum (useless)

TT (his WOT on sand / qob were super forced) / queen (useless, came into the thread a few hours ago for one random question, I doubt he would have say anything else if I hadn't asked him for his reads)

TheCow (useless, his "I will reevaluate" then dropping team names without explanation is scummy) / Damdred (underwhelming ... I have no rteason to scumread him)

FF (useless, treated qob as town when he's pushing him) / Sentinel (don't really have anything to scumread him. He explained his Koshi meta stuff and is pushing his scumread right now, which is not an easy target)

People are not playing super good since there are at most 2 scum teams in those 4.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 19:15 GMT
#832
it's like race bannon is scumreading me and buddying me at the same time...
Let me explain the small piece of meta that everyone is using to townread me. When I'm scum I don't care at all. This has been proven to be true over several years.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
March 01 2016 19:16 GMT
#833
On March 02 2016 04:14 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.




Can you explain your gut read? Which posts give you scummy feelings inside?


I always feel jolly and townie.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:16 GMT
#834
On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.



You will have to handle shennanies (=
kush is very likely scum by meta
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:16 GMT
#835
town*
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 19:18 GMT
#836
On March 02 2016 04:15 Rels wrote:
I'm OK lynching:

VE (only one read that doesn't evolve with the thread, fixed on proving he is making sense instead of being interested by new events, useless) / bum (useless)

TT (his WOT on sand / qob were super forced) / queen (useless, came into the thread a few hours ago for one random question, I doubt he would have say anything else if I hadn't asked him for his reads)

TheCow (useless, his "I will reevaluate" then dropping team names without explanation is scummy) / Damdred (underwhelming ... I have no rteason to scumread him)

FF (useless, treated qob as town when he's pushing him) / Sentinel (don't really have anything to scumread him. He explained his Koshi meta stuff and is pushing his scumread right now, which is not an easy target)

People are not playing super good since there are at most 2 scum teams in those 4.


So who do you want to lynch? Who are you going to vote for? Which wagon is better, FF or TheCow?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#837
OK I'm receiving friends so this I won't be active except just before going to sleep.

I want to lynch VE / bum. VE one read makes no sense:
On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase?

I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase.

"TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum"
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:
So you didn't read this one then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?user=Tictock

"Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!"
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP!

"NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!"

Scum.


Upon coming back to the thread he had one scummy defense:
On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical.
Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there.
I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum.
Show nested quote +
I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

This is the scummiest thing you've said.

His other posts in this series of "coming back" posts:
On March 01 2016 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.


So now that you've had this fight with Rels and seen me posting in a more serious manor. What do you think of my alignment?

I'm willing to hear more. Consider my vote removed in spirit.

On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through.

Why?

He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act.

On March 01 2016 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I should lynch marv for getting sassy-mouthed earlier.

are super useless.

Nothing needs to be said about bum.

I can undersatnd if you scumread someone more than those, but anyone townreading them is beyond my fucking comprehension.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#838
I guess that answers your question p:
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 19:22 GMT
#839
On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog.

No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.

i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p

Pfffff, I can self meta myself.
Is Shapelog Shit posting?
If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town
If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read?
if yes, Mafia
if no, Town.

Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here?
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Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 19:23 GMT
#840
On March 02 2016 04:16 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 04:14 Felkyr wrote:
On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.




Can you explain your gut read? Which posts give you scummy feelings inside?


I always feel jolly and townie.


But you think Kush/Shape is scum. Why?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
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