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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 16:57 GMT
#781
On March 02 2016 01:56 Koshi wrote:
Nha. A decent amount of points I made were echooed by other players. I just get flamed while others get answers. It's ok. You are town.

echoed by who exactly?

Sentinel? lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 16:58 GMT
#782
On March 02 2016 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 01:56 Koshi wrote:
Nha. A decent amount of points I made were echooed by other players. I just get flamed while others get answers. It's ok. You are town.

echoed by who exactly?

Sentinel? lol

I say desperate. Someone else say opportunistic.

I am trash tier. Other one gets answer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 16:58 GMT
#783
Sentinel same.
Qob same.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 16:58 GMT
#784
It's ok.
You are off limits.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 16:59 GMT
#785
the other one got an answer because he's not been digging at me all bloody game long.

and if i told you i'd been thinking about cow/damdred since i read the thread today would you just mock me for it? i think yes. so why bother making a proper response to you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 16:59 GMT
#786
please stop, your drama is making me laugh at work
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 17:00 GMT
#787
No it's cool marv.
I had a good night of sleep.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 01 2016 17:15 GMT
#788
On March 01 2016 10:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Nigga it didn't take you two sentences to contradict yourself

On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia.

On March 02 2016 01:39 marvellosity wrote:
and you're a shit-tier player, so i guess we're even


Please play nice. These are clearly not acceptable and I really shouldn't need to say this. This is a warning.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 17:16 GMT
#789
Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.


On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.


Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.

But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those

Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken.

On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.

What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment.

You're still doing it.


Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed?


I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens:

You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu.

Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this:

1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling.
2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments.
3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it".
4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it.
5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them.

On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this?

Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from.

On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Show nested quote +
Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.

By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 17:17 GMT
#790
I hate D1.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 17:19 GMT
#791
On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.

So because I'm trying to see both sides of your alignment rather than just tunnelling, i am mafia?

okay sent, that's great.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 17:21 GMT
#792
On March 02 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.

So because I'm trying to see both sides of your alignment rather than just tunnelling, i am mafia?

okay sent, that's great.

A combination of seeing both sides of me when nobody else is, and the fact that you don't use any hard language. You don't say this is towny or scummy. It's just understandable or suspicious. Everyone else then commutes these points.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
March 01 2016 17:23 GMT
#793
On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.


On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.


Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this:

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On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.

But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those

Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken.

On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.

What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment.

You're still doing it.


Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed?


I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens:

You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu.

Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this:

1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling.
2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments.
3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it".
4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it.
5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them.

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On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this?

Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from.

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On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.

By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.



Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 17:23 GMT
#794
On March 02 2016 02:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 02 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.

So because I'm trying to see both sides of your alignment rather than just tunnelling, i am mafia?

okay sent, that's great.

A combination of seeing both sides of me when nobody else is, and the fact that you don't use any hard language. You don't say this is towny or scummy. It's just understandable or suspicious. Everyone else then commutes these points.

scummy = suspicious. the two are almost synonymous. I don't find townie things suspicious.

as for when nobody else is - well, that's because i'm better than the scrubs.

but i guess you can scumread me for being totes amazeballs. i am okay with this. my sincerest apologies for looking at both sides of the argument once again.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 17:28 GMT
#795
On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr:

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On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

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On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.


On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.


Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this:

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On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.

But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those

Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken.

On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.

What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment.

You're still doing it.


Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed?


I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens:

You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu.

Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this:

1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling.
2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments.
3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it".
4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it.
5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them.

On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this?

Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from.

On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:
On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.

let's play a game.

First 3 posts of a random other game:
On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host.

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me?

Only if we pretend to be mafia


town or mafia?

"random"

I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.

On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.

You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.


Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.

On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?

please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.


On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this

never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?

lol, thats such a dumb quote.

Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?

Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?

And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.

Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.



Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.

The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point.

Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.

i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote.

Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.

By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".

Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.



Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town?

I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv.

I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good.

Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 17:29 GMT
#796
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 01 2016 17:31 GMT
#797
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 01 2016 17:38 GMT
#798
I'm here and mostly caught up.

Any questions for me?

Just random thoughts

Marv is pretty obviously town and koshi. It has a t v t feel to it, which nobody needs me to say because would of been more useful 15 pages ago. -_-

I think my thought about ff was decent still espe ially with his lack of anything worthwhile now.

Going to read a couple filters see what I think about others
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 01 2016 17:39 GMT
#799
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 01 2016 17:41 GMT
#800
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.
I had a good night of sleep.
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