EPTGB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird.
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GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you? But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense... Idk this is really weird. | ||
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On February 19 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote: TT its weird what you are doing It's been a day man, and this business isn't helping. I think I'm gunna take a 30 from this and let my head clear a little. | ||
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Yolo plays is such a bad reason for that shot  GB's play is just WTF. Which I think means I need to ignore it... Though I'll note these WTF feelings in later reads. I suggest we ignore anymore Blue stuff, and get back on track? | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote: you! i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper Oh I'm not supposed to do that? Seriously where did I do this? Does the fact that I'm not sure about your alignment yet still read your posts mean something to you? + Show Spoiler [Hint] + Like right now, you are pestering me to talk about something you care about - Townpoints You insulate I'm stealing your reads or something somewhere, but refuse to backup where this happened - Scum points Simply put you are confusing, but not as interesting as some of the scummers | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:47 Trfel wrote: Anyway, I believe Tictock had some questions for me regarding my Tumblewood read? I've said all that I have to say about it, I really do think that he is town because that is by far the simplest explanation, and anything else is pure paranoia. Oh, and Tictock, I feel that your vote is suspicious because "I wanted to lynch Palmar because if he is scum, Trfel is scum too" feels like a really horrible reason to me. I guess I can see it coming from town, but it feels so fabricated, and a bit unrefined. I guess I thought it was widely acknowledged that lynching for information is not good, which is largely what this reason came down to, and I struggle a bit to see this come from experienced town. Back to my voting analysis, yay. Eh I think your stretching what happend if you think I voted Palmar kus I thought it would give info about your alignment. I made that comment more as an afterthought than as a reason why I voted Palmar. | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote: This post...it's in the spoiler most people probably didn't read cause ppl are awesome that way ^^ eh nvm it's actually prob nothing lol @.@ he accepts my interpretation of sl's first posts...for some reason i thought there was more in there than there was Glad you could clear this up for you! | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:51 Tictock wrote: Ugh I'm really torn here, SL's response to my push was decent. GB has made some more serious posts in the past few hours but I'm not really sure the content was really there. Palmar might not be a bad lynch he really has never made much of an impact nor has his push on Bre ever been explained. I could also flip scott kus he has a bad habit of rolling scum... Palmar looked like the best lynch. I didn't get your stuff on scott about his Bre read, and I didn't have a reason to scumread him. | ||
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I have issues with the way he pushed Shape yesturday. He basically said what I just told you to shape about trying to read him, then said Shape was playing a lot like he did as scum in the last game and voted him. I also thought his vote onto Palmar was pretty suspect since Palmar had been a "Bad lynch" in an earlier post. When the wagon on Shape fell apart he just settled with Palmar, or more accurately he denounced all the other wagons. On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar It doesn't add up. | ||
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On February 19 2016 21:06 nooniansoong wrote: I have a predicament. I did something that looks like TMI, and no one noticed it. I said this directly after EoN. How did i know that SL was the one that was NKed and not viged? I must be scum, right? The answer is that I didn't realize right away that one was viged. I was thinking they both got NKed. This feels weird. | ||
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On February 20 2016 03:40 The Shining wrote: Man my time restraints are really killing me. I hate not being able to play anymore. I also really feel like I should've shot Scott. Hosts need to stop giving me nk power. I don't understand why scum GB wouldn't fake claim there btw. It goes like this: GB has no useful contribution this game. GB posts pics. GB tunnels one person. GB goes under suspicion. GB claims vig. At best, he gets read as unCCd town vig if I don't cc him and rides that credit. At worst, he draws out the vig and goes 1-1. The reason scum would do this is if they can also confirm Shapes blue role, which happened. One scum for confirmation on two blue roles when that scum is already under suspicion is quite likely. As for GB drawing a shot, Shape was pretty much confirmed town after his claim. I started tinfoiling because I was under the assumption rbs were notified and he should've either known he was rbd or actually saw me shoot Eden. Blue Shape being rbd and living makes complete sense now. But once Shape claimed watcher, there was no reason for a townGB to think a vig who alrdy shot was going to soak a bullet as opposed to the watcher who arguably becomes stronger the longer he's alive. Especially since scum has no way of guaranteeing their rber doesn't get lynched today. Tldr why would GB think a vig who is basically named vt now would soak a shot over basically confirmed watcher Shape? He wouldn't. The fakeclaim is scummy. Can you elaborate on this part Shining? Kus Shape had already claimed, and it was pretty obv that one of the shots was a Vig. So wouldn't scum already have all the info they need? I agree his fakeclaim was pretty bad but I really don't see any gain for scum to make that play. Town makes pretty stupid fake claims sometimes, like Damdred fake CC'd my claim as GS in Outlaw kus he was convinced I was lying and was scum (I was in fact the GS). | ||
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Doesn't really mean anything about my read on GB. | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:43 rsoultin wrote: yup ![[image loading]](https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgja6amUA1qb9nyp.gif) tangentially, if i ever meet this guy in person, i'm leaving you, lex >> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LPsqold.jpg) Dam that's cold... | ||
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Was it all just a dream? Kus it's weird to me that Trfel sorta agreed with me but brushed it off and nobody else seems to care. | ||
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"Do not Lynch" speaks for itself, so why did Palmar become lynchable in Tumble's mind? After Shape claimed blue, what happened to his read on SL? Scott was down as a "wait and see" and hadn't done anything else since that post. So why would he say this, On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar when multiple (GB and Scott) of his "wait and see" people where also viable lynch's? + Show Spoiler + On February 19 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Wow I am regretting my Palmar vote more and more by the hour. The reason I voted was because there were three wagons sitting at two votes (Scott, Shining, and... GB, I think) and I thought they all sucked. They were all effectively p-lynches on people who hadn't been active, and those hit town more often than not. He did sorta explain with this, but I don't buy it. I mean wasn't Palmar essentially being Plynched there as well? I also thought his read and vote onto Shape was weird and kinda opportunistic. Also yea, suggesting that me not responding right away is me ignoring you is an attack on my character, which is kinda scummy. | ||
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WTF have you done for town GB? Like it can't seriously be a surprise to you that people scumread for doing jack all for 2 days, but draw some pictures and fake claim. Same goes for Tumble. You guys come in and make useless posts >.< | ||
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Scott's post(yes singular) today: On February 20 2016 01:52 scott31337 wrote: So GB fakeclaimed - lovely - I think he's stirring the pot Shining looks legit I love how rsoul still wants me dead I had a dream last night she was mafia with Trfel and GB so it must be true  He has a dream where he's caught the whole mafia team... sure. I guess at least we kinda know he's scumreading, though I kinda feel like he mighta been joking (idk). Tumble's posts today: On February 20 2016 09:52 Tumblewood wrote: I'm looking back through my notes and the main reason I was scumreading GB was his townreads on Shape. Now that Shape is blue claimed, I feel a little worse about that read. On February 20 2016 09:53 Tumblewood wrote: Never mind Scum can be correct for shitty reasons too These say nothing, he half-gives a read then takes it back. GB's Posts (ignoring the recent burst of activity, and Fake claim BS). On February 20 2016 13:42 GlowingBear wrote: Why am I scum? On February 20 2016 13:43 GlowingBear wrote: I've worked all day long and I came back to a thread sayinf that I'm scum for no fucking reason Really shitty posts. Getting all worked up over something he should full well understand/expect. My problem here is that unless the scum team is exactly these 3, we have some At least GB has started to provide some content to read him by, so I'll look at that more closely. Also can anyone think of a more recent towngame for GB than PyP and Haunted Mansion? I'm pretty sure Outlaw was the most recent scumgame from GB. | ||
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Ok apparently I forgot GB was in the Nutcraker game, starting with that one kus it's pretty recent and I was in that game (albeit as scum). + Show Spoiler + I'm seeing a lot of similarities in GB's play between the 2 games. One thing that jumps out is that GB made a very similar push on Kush in both games. On December 14 2015 22:58 GlowingBear wrote: I'm voting Kush because he deserves it On December 16 2015 03:49 GlowingBear wrote: But to be fair I prefer kush to die today. For the reasons of I don't want to relive Avogadro's Number mini Mafia On December 16 2015 06:48 GlowingBear wrote: Wow the vote count is horrendous Townies, if we keep the vote count this way, Madia can easy manipulate it If we are so torn apart we should vote someone who is at least a queation mark I'm driving. I suggest you all move to kush Overall I think things look pretty similar to this game, but GB did seem more interested in making reads in Nutcracker than in this game. When GB was getting lynched though he wasn't anywhere as emotional as he has been here. On December 16 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote: Oh I'm dying On December 16 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, I'm not Mafia. You're again doing the same mistake you did last game if you're town. And it's a shame you can't give me more time to prove myself even when I repeatedly said I would've been busy these days. He was also town in NSM XVIII which I think is his most recent town game. + Show Spoiler + This is a large filter and I wasn't in the game so I'm just skimming and then checking the end of his filter to how he reacted to being lynched. In general I notice a bit more of a carefree attitude from GB, he's giving thoughts and reads pretty freely and just seems kinda friendly when interacting with people. His reaction to being lynched in this game is markedly different than the others, biggest thing relevant to this game now... he's not very emotional even when being lynched. On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote: Well, lynch me today When I flip town lynch my scum reads They are Giygas/mderg/? Also remember what I said on NM before I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day. I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads. On January 07 2016 00:47 GlowingBear wrote: Argh this post isn't good. Guys lynch me, I can't deal with this thing of not being able to decide if Kmatt is town or Mafia On January 07 2016 01:38 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I'm late for work, I gotta go I'm voting Giygas. I'm town. Do the right thing On January 07 2016 02:23 GlowingBear wrote: The only reason I'm not flipping out is because this is a newbie game lol Last town game I'm gunna look at is Haunted Mansion, note that he was rolled town that game even if the mechanics of the game caused him to become mafia-aligned after death. + Show Spoiler + Just for reference, I was in this game as town with town!GB and got super tunneled on him thinking he was the final member of the mafia team after we lynched mafia D2 and D3. Even after I died I left a last will that told people to lynch GB. This was some of his reactions that last day before he got mislynched and town lost the game. On December 09 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote: I won't repeat the reasons myself for why I'm town, if you wish to disregard my defense and lynch me GG and farewell, I don't have the patience to fight my lynch. On December 09 2015 13:21 GlowingBear wrote: Also, I'm not Mafia. Care to read what I write now that I am actually defending myself? On December 10 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote: I think I've brought enough points on OO and Chrome. I certainly am suspicious of Chrom especially because he is still alive at LYLO and didn't require a lynch on him before anyone else after two days of mislynches. In the other hand, I'd rather lose to mafia Chrome than lose to Mafia ObviousOne. So I'm voting him. On December 12 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: I would try to survive but I'm working and I can't GG Wp scum Quite similar to the NSM game before this, again though very little emotional reaction to being lynched. And then the contrast check with a recent scum!GB game from Outlaw. + Show Spoiler + This is another game where GB has over 10pgs of filter, so I'm just focusing on the last page or two where he is getting lynched. On January 05 2016 00:26 GlowingBear wrote: I'll be reading the thread later and I'll give some inputs. On January 05 2016 06:46 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, why am I being votes? On January 05 2016 07:25 GlowingBear wrote: The only reason you guys have to vote me is my recent inactivity. Other than that, why am I scum? On January 05 2016 07:38 GlowingBear wrote: OWS could be scum There isn't any emotion but the similarities in how GB is asking why he is being scumread is rather uncanny to this game, also the first quote here is a lot like some of GB's posts D1 here. This Game: (Today in particular) First lets talk about that Fake claim I've been simmering on the back burner. + Show Spoiler [Relevant Posts] + On February 19 2016 08:05 GlowingBear wrote: I'm the vigi and I shot SL On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote: MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID On February 19 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote: ##vote: The Shining So while I will note that GB did not ACTUALLY vote for TS, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean that as either alignment it makes very little sense. If this is a fakeclaim from town!GB then why does he flip out and vote(fakevote?) Shining? He knows he's fakeclaiming and a CC is almost for sure going to be the real Vig, so either GB doesn't think Shining is a vig or he's flailing hard. If this is scum!GB why does he even bother to claim? Getting the real vig to claim means nothing for scum and Shape has already claimed his role. If he does claim, why backoff so fast? Like it was clear that Breshke and I were instantly more suspect of The Shining than GB so a scum!GB would have kept his claim and gone for the 1v1 right? Bah this is why I wanted to ignore this, kus it legit just doesn't make sense as either alignment. I guess I can almost believe GB was going to move to eat a bullet, especially kus if he was scum he would have known that SL was not the Vig shot. Now we have GB's more recent burst of activity and his anger over being scumread for his lackluster play. Overall I see that easily coming from either alignment, the anger does seem fake though as I think GB understands that being lynched is part of the game ans can self-evaluate his own play enough to understand why he is being scumread here. His reads list wasn't terrible though. On February 21 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: I've already gave my reads, the strongest read I had once was Eden being town and sicklucker and Kush being Mafia. I think Truffle is townie although his push on me is weird I think Tictock is townie for the way he is engaging the game. Shapelog is town. Shining is town. I don't know about Breshke, he sounds townish but he doesn't look very engaged to the thread. Sometimes he comes, comment things and disappears. I thought Kush was Mafia but I'm not sure anymore after reading his filter. He seems very engaged in finding scum especially on how he faces Tictock, so he might be town after all. I think Tumblewood could be Mafia out of PoE. Not really strong reasons against him because nothing stands out from his filter but his images, that can be easily done to get towncred. He has done nothing with those "lots of information" after he posted them, and some of them are distorted interpretation of what people say in thread. I think Rsoultin is Mafia because she can read me well and her flip on me doesn't make sense and is very opportunistic considering she is following thread sentiment. I have no idea about scott but I also don't understand his scum read on me which also feels very opportunistic considering I'm his counter wagon and he hasn't commented a single post from my filter Honestly the only problem I have with this post was that GB wasn't just freely sharing these reads, it was like he churned them out upon request. Conclusions: Fuck if I know, but GB has a pretty good chance of flipping red here, probably goon or shadow, or w/e. I only had the one scum game to look at so idk if he does bouts of fake emotion as scum, but there was a clear similarity in how GB is asking "Why am I scum" both in Outlaw and here, whereas in his town games he is more focused on his reads or is trying to convince people he is town. Maybe GB has just been playing this game with the idea of being too scummy to be scum and then decides to put in the effort for a few hours before EoD to try and wiggle the wagon off him. Seems like a pretty shit play as scum though... but I suppose it's even worse as town... Sigh, I swear GB if you are town here I will highly consider doing the unspeakable things I almost typed here. ##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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