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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 01:08 GMT
#192
On February 16 2016 10:04 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 10:01 Tictock wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:51 Shapelog wrote:
I need to See if my Tinfoil Buddy is my scum buddy or my town buddy.

Wut is your Favorite color of a Bomb Pop to eat TT?


Wtf is a Bomb Pop?

Blue is generally the best flavor though.

[image loading]
Blue is my fav too. Wood is my second


Ohh those things.

Not gunna lie, I like me a little red nub every once and awhile.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 01:56 GMT
#208
Ok I was writting a post about how I sorta agreed that Trfel might have a point about Eden disengaging, got distracted by the offering of soup, then come back to find Eden posting.

So I'm just gunna take that as a sign that it's time to take a break, and hopefully have more to read after my Raid.

Oh also there was some thought about how almost everyone has posted (everyone but GB, impressive) but there has been no miller claims. So I think it's a safe assumption there are none?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 06:32 GMT
#262
Tumblewood
nooniansoong
The Shining
mderg
GlowingBear

These are the people who need to post more.

Rsoul is someone I have no idea how to read. Besides Outlaw have we played together before?

I might only know her via Co-hosting.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 06:34 GMT
#263
Actually GB, less drunk posting from you is ok too.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 06:55 GMT
#265
Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?

Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?

You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?

Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 20:19 GMT
#321
On February 16 2016 16:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote:
Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?

Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?

You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?

Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring.

Trfel and Eden are town because mafia are usually afraid to get into a heated argument.
I think everyone besides those two who has been active is making little town cred posts without substance.
Shape was spammy as all hell last game. Is that just normal though? Maybe.
Tictock, what do you think of Trfel and Eden arguing?


Well I was thinking they were both town before they got into it, so I kinda just skimmed some of their exchange.

The only thing that felt a little odd to me about the whole thing was I thought Trfel's case on Eden was a touch... premature? Like I see what he was getting at but it was also super early in the game to try and make a case like that. It might be a bit odd, but I think if Trfel had tabled that thought until today and saw Eden still being disengaged or w/e then the case would carry a lot more weight.

I still think that other post from Trfel I quoted earlier is evidence of towny thinking, though I'm realizing today I didn't really account for the possibility of a Trfel/Palmar team. Not going to indulge that tinfoil today though.

My read on Eden isn't that strong but my gut is telling me he is probably town as well.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 20:29 GMT
#322
On February 16 2016 22:31 Shapelog wrote:
Ok I have Insight on Tumbledore. Going in for the read.
+ Show Spoiler [Insightful posts] +

On February 16 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Scumreading Trfel pretty hard right now tbh

On February 16 2016 15:46 Tumblewood wrote:
This D1 sucks. Nothing very significant has happened except Trfel and Eden arguing and getting nowhere, except for all that nice town cred people are building for themselves.

On February 16 2016 16:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote:
Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?

Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?

You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?

Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring.

Trfel and Eden are town because mafia are usually afraid to get into a heated argument.
I think everyone besides those two who has been active is making little town cred posts without substance.
Shape was spammy as all hell last game. Is that just normal though? Maybe.
Tictock, what do you think of Trfel and Eden arguing?


Ok so this might seem really Meh. In fact it is Meh. But it is very different then Scum!Tumble intro post in the last Newbie. In the last newbie, as my scum partner, he opened up with a big read (note that he threw slug at me). His posts there out were also big posts. He also was like a gopher on groundhog day, he pop his head out, answer points about him being scum, then leave about 60% of the time. Other 40% was him pushing his scum reads.

IF he was scum, he would have a scum read and take advantage of the situation between Eden and Trofl.
+ Show Spoiler [Or Tinfoil] +
Slight chance that he is scum and someone like trofl or Etc. is a scum partner.


I would feel fine giving Tumble a slight town lean ftm.


Humm, this isn't terribly convincing.

Maybe you could share the posts from the other game so we can see what's so different?

Though tbh I'm not sure a slight change in posting style from one game to another means much about alignment.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 21:13 GMT
#324
Bah struggeling to find time today.

Palmar can you expand on why you think Trfel's read on you is TMI?

Did you think his meta-read and explanation was bad.inaccurate.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 21:16 GMT
#325
On February 17 2016 01:45 nooniansoong wrote:
Just because your name is boldified in red doesn't mean I think you're scum.


Fairly confused by this, what was your reason for putting his name is bold red then?

Especially since the words underneath the bold, red PALMAR seem to indicate that you don't think he's town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 21:17 GMT
#326
On February 17 2016 01:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Gonna read stuff in a second


Where did you go?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 21:20 GMT
#327
Crap I'm out of time, but I see Scott is replaced in, welcome.

Doing a poker night tonight but I should be around after that.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 01:26 GMT
#363
On February 17 2016 08:41 nooniansoong wrote:
Underwhelming post from breshke


You have yet to whelm me btw.

Actually I think I forgot to respond to something from you...
On February 17 2016 05:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 05:29 Tictock wrote:
On February 16 2016 22:31 Shapelog wrote:
Ok I have Insight on Tumbledore. Going in for the read.
+ Show Spoiler [Insightful posts] +

On February 16 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Scumreading Trfel pretty hard right now tbh

On February 16 2016 15:46 Tumblewood wrote:
This D1 sucks. Nothing very significant has happened except Trfel and Eden arguing and getting nowhere, except for all that nice town cred people are building for themselves.

On February 16 2016 16:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote:
Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?

Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?

You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?

Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring.

Trfel and Eden are town because mafia are usually afraid to get into a heated argument.
I think everyone besides those two who has been active is making little town cred posts without substance.
Shape was spammy as all hell last game. Is that just normal though? Maybe.
Tictock, what do you think of Trfel and Eden arguing?


Ok so this might seem really Meh. In fact it is Meh. But it is very different then Scum!Tumble intro post in the last Newbie. In the last newbie, as my scum partner, he opened up with a big read (note that he threw slug at me). His posts there out were also big posts. He also was like a gopher on groundhog day, he pop his head out, answer points about him being scum, then leave about 60% of the time. Other 40% was him pushing his scum reads.

IF he was scum, he would have a scum read and take advantage of the situation between Eden and Trofl.
+ Show Spoiler [Or Tinfoil] +
Slight chance that he is scum and someone like trofl or Etc. is a scum partner.


I would feel fine giving Tumble a slight town lean ftm.


Humm, this isn't terribly convincing.

Maybe you could share the posts from the other game so we can see what's so different?

Though tbh I'm not sure a slight change in posting style from one game to another means much about alignment.


Shape didn't meant for it to be terribly convincing. He made that abundantly clear. So why are you misrepresenting the strength of shape's read?


How am I misrepresenting it? I'm basically agreeing that it's not very strong and asked him to provide the posts he is referring to from their last game so I could more clearly see what he is talking about.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 01:30 GMT
#364
Also I should note that Eden is pretty much lock town for me.

Not only do I think he is approaching things from a very neutral viewpoint (he is looking at both town and mafia modivations) but I'm actually just enjoying his style of posting. It's really clear and easy for me to follow his lines of thinking.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 01:33 GMT
#365
On February 17 2016 09:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to move the game forward, but most people don't even have a page of filter to use. It's hard to town/scum read anyone besides Trfel and Eden.
Really I'm just concerned that scum will win because town lacks information and doesn't seek any.


It's so amusing that you do not see the massive irony of making this post when you've done so little this game.

Like you've only commented on Trfel and Eden being likely town kus you don't think mafia are willing to fight and then keep complaining about the game being dull.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 01:49 GMT
#372
Ok caught up.

I was thinking on the bus back from tutoring that Tumble and GB might actually be town.

For GB it's really only based on his recent town meta of being pretty disconnected and inactive (See his filters in Pick Your Power and Haunted Mansion, do note that in HM he was far more active D1 than any of the following days). Compared to his last scum game Outlaw where he put much more effort into being active to support his team and be disruptive.

I wouldn't give him a pass for this, but I think I'm leaning town on GB for now. I'd still like to see him actually post something relevant to the game though.

Tumble made this post which I'm not sure mafia would make.
On February 17 2016 02:14 Tumblewood wrote:
Shapelog, why are you trying so hard to make reads based off of little evidence? Like your meta-read on me based off of one game


Pretty ballsy move to attack someone who just played with you as mafia, and is town reading you for it, if you are mafia.

Both of these are pretty weak, but I'm not seeing any mafia motivation in what they are doing.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 01:59 GMT
#374
On February 17 2016 10:35 Breshke wrote:
TT have you played much with SL since that game we were mason buddies and what are your thoughts on him this game?


I've played with him a couple of times recently, and have been able to read him as town fairly easily in both of them (maybe that's not true, I forgot when I made up my mind that he was town in PyP).

This game I'm scratching my head a bit more. I was leaning scum on him a little based on the early game, but I'm a bit less sure now. Like the dear diary stuff didn't go anywhere but lead to a few dumbtells about him thinking Jat was in the game and such.

I'll need to glance at his filter (would do it now but about to do stuff with roommates) and I'll try and get a better read on him.

Sorry, that's probably not a very good answer, but it's what I got atm.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 02:01 GMT
#376
On February 17 2016 10:58 nooniansoong wrote:
Lol tt that town read on gb makes no sense


Do you have a read on him?

Iirc I was getting mafia vibes from him in Outlaw D1, but before I was lynched I had changed my mind and thought he was town. Also I was SUPER sure he was mafia in Haunted Mansion, but he was town.

So my read accuracy for GB is admittedly shit.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 02:03 GMT
#379
Out for a bit, I'll be back later and figuer out who I want to lynch today.

I feel like I've narrowed down my options, and am pretty happy with my townreads atm, so even though I don't have any strong scum reads I think we have a solid chance and getting scum today.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 06:52 GMT
#473
On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote:
ehh I have a problem with these two posts.
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 09:27 Shapelog wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:17 Trfel wrote:
Shapelog, why do you not care that I caught mafia

I am actually writing a reply to your questions Lol.

But about Eden, tbh not a whole lot to go off of (I mean like 4 posts not counting the miller softclaim joke).

In those two posts: Set up speculation, Rosukl Town read, Asking if people abject to Miller claiming, Miller claiming.

Like why would mafia push Miller claiming AND while speculating that a DT is in a game?


Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 23:19 Shapelog wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Sick Mafia Stat that while it has not…] +

OK so this is great. I was reading R-Girl's Filter and This pop into my head. This is comptlely Off topic and I highly suggest to you to NOT reply to this. IT will clog up the thread and my filter with useless crap. Only thing worth noting is the end.

SUPPOSE THAT THE MILLERS are NOT Aware. Cheekey right? I mean we have had everyone post and no one claimed. What if mafia posts a list like Eden's. Saying the Millers sound aware (while knowing somehow either by mafia knowledge or host question). and THEN having their partner claim Miller? Sure, they might run into problems later on. But that would be a amazing play.

IMPORTANT INFO
So, While I am all for Millers to claim if they are aware. I think we need to be careful since we do not actually know if Millers are really Millers. And if we have a DT, they can not check. Further more, we need to see if there is any associative behavior with the person who claims Miller and with people like Eden who assumes Millers are aware.


the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware.

then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape


This is actually a really good point.

I thought that tinfoil was off, but I was thinking more because it was silly to keep talking about the miller stuff when nobody claimed. Also if Eden was mafia I'd imagine he would have just claimed Miller himself and let us sort out that they are in fact aware. + Show Spoiler +
ok actually I have no idea if Eden would do that as scum (never played with the guy/gal before), but I'm pretty sure I would have


Ugh, I didn't want to have to go look at Shapes mafia filter, but I'm getting the feeling I may need to.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 17 2016 07:02 GMT
#474
On February 17 2016 11:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:28 Trfel wrote:
I thought you're not lynching Breshke because he is a good devil's advocate?

In your above post, don't you imply that you not lynching Breshke has bearing on Palmar's alignment? (ie his main scumreads are town, and you don't like this) But if I am correct in your reason for not lynching Breshke, why would you be surprised that Palmar doesn't care about this reason if he is town?


pfft

i'm not lynching breshke because when he's a good devil's advocate and looking at everything from all sides he pretty much invariably is town -beats with a wet noodle-

palmar having different reads from me is not related to why i'm reading anyone the way i am; we're just both tone-type players and i've noticed that our reads have been converging more and more as time goes on, even if for different reasons

tbf though usually when we're both town and we differ he's right >> bastard


This is prob the first thing I've seen from Rsoul that I totally agree with.

The town!Bre that I know is never on the frontlines directing town and pushing the game forward, he's more the quite thoughtful guy in the corner who catches stuff that gets overlooked. His activity and the fact that he tends to post small snippets rather than huge cases and reads often makes it hard for people to read him.

Every post I've seen from Bre this game looks like town!Bre to me. Asking questions with purpose, pointing out stuff that others miss (like the last post of his I quoted), and he's showing efforts at solving the game.
I can take that responsibility.
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