Star Wars: The Mafia Awaken

On February 03 2016 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
I've learnt much in the way of hosting/balance over the last year. <3

Something tells me you will murder me anyways, JAT

On February 03 2016 02:34 marvellosity wrote:

that's why you don't need to shadow then

On February 03 2016 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm still not a perfect ass for you?

On February 03 2016 23:57 Palmar wrote:

I will tilt you so hard day 1

On February 04 2016 00:06 Rels wrote:
That is the usual number for 17, although I'm pretty sure you won't be given a direct answer as it's a semi-open setup.

On February 04 2016 01:07 Koshi wrote:
It's his mafia tell btw

On February 04 2016 08:45 Palmar wrote:
also I'm a tiger waiting to pounce on an ounce of scummy

On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly.

On February 04 2016 09:10 ritoky wrote:
can we lynch jat for not being a top10 player?

On February 04 2016 09:18 ritoky wrote:


do you think anyone has done anything alignment indicative yet?

On February 04 2016 09:23 Palmar wrote:

he was actually relatively restrained, but I could see the vein on his forehead about to burst here from iceland

On February 04 2016 09:30 Palmar wrote:

I think hero is a bit pompous for my taste, I think maybe a "savior" would be better suited for me.

On February 04 2016 09:41 ritoky wrote:


if you don't think that anyone has done anything alignment indicative yet, then why aren't you pro-actively pushing for alignment indicative information rather than just sitting around waiting to react to what others are doing?

On February 04 2016 09:47 disformation wrote:

I liked your question to jat. Not 100% sure what to make of the answer though. Inclined to sympathize, since I have a similar behaviour. Care to share your dumb reason? Probably still better than mine. :p

On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:

bf is pretty town bro.

On February 04 2016 20:44 marvellosity wrote:

*shakes head*

pretty bad because you know i can never be drawn on things when i don't want to be and you know i'm always slow at the start.

why you say these things

On February 04 2016 20:51 Koshi wrote:
Ugh... Palmar is almost certainly not mafia here. I have a pretty good tell for him when he is mafia. It's not this.

On February 04 2016 20:59 Koshi wrote:

Because I know when he is mafia. I have correctly read him for a shitton of games in a row now.
Also, submissive? Nope. Just friendly.

On February 04 2016 20:42 Palmar wrote:
I'm out for a bit

make marv give opinions on things, make jat actually play

On February 04 2016 20:45 Palmar wrote:

this is only partly true.

You tend to be slow at actually doing things (trying to lynch people), but you do poke an opinion here and there when you're town.

On February 04 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:

I like this post. Paranoia is a good town trait to have imo.

On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:

So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense.
It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.

On February 04 2016 22:19 marvellosity wrote:

only 3 years behind me bbz <3

On February 04 2016 22:21 boxerfred wrote:

Yep, why do you do it? I mean, you talk about Palmar instead of referring to my points, while you blame everyone to not talk about my points. Why? And what do you think about my points about ritoky?


Also, disformation, I expect huge things now. You're so silent now, are you not awake? Not reading? It's weird that you're not here.

On February 04 2016 22:30 Koshi wrote:

Why wouldn't he believe in it? He just lead town previous game?

On February 04 2016 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
jat: i don't have a particular opinion on Palmar

On February 04 2016 22:37 Palmar wrote:
also, essentially, I didn't really expect to be back until tonight or something, but connecting new server at work took a lot less time than expected so I'm back at desk.

On February 04 2016 22:37 Palmar wrote:

I agree with Koshi

On February 04 2016 22:40 Palmar wrote:

Good Koshi figured out that Palmar is town. I agree.

Also, we're mason buddies.

On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town.

On February 04 2016 22:44 Palmar wrote:
I actually have major trouble connecting with jat's "believe what I'm saying" thing. Aside from a short period last year where I decided I'd just townread marv every game to make things easier, it's exactly how I've treated him throughout recent years. And it's a bit bullshitty that jat appears just as I call out to make him play and makes the argument that he'll play when he pleases.

On February 04 2016 22:54 Koshi wrote:

I am not talking about the previous game. You say that Palmar being pro active IN THIS game is scummy and that it would make more "sense" if he would let you do w.e the fuck you want. Knowing how last game worked out for him it should be the opposite. He should actually be more pushy than he is now.

On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:

essentially, being cocky and sure of himself fits jat's personality, unlike me who is eternally humble he simply hasn't grasped that his eternal quest for validation is only making him pettier by the day.

On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

On February 04 2016 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:

So you think telling people to "make marv give opinions" will achieve anything at all?
You think telling people to "make me play the game" will result in anything else than a major argument which serves no purpose?
Explain.

On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:

No, why not?

There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically).

When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly.

So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right.

now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,.

Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable?

On February 05 2016 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like he put in a lot of *visible effort

thank you please

On February 05 2016 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
made me chuckle enough that i'll let it slide.

On February 05 2016 00:14 Rels wrote:

This is a weird thing to say. How can you "ungenuinely" believe something ?

On February 05 2016 00:23 Koshi wrote:
Ofc JAT puts the townie thinking in red and the dumb part in green. Just to make me think he is a dumbass till I read his explanation.

On February 05 2016 00:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
interested in hearing people's thoughts on the named VT role. Should we have them claim here and lead the day 1 lynch, or should they just play as normal

On February 05 2016 00:41 Damdred wrote:
I think technically the named towny is considered a blue in this setup and its probably best to wait to claim so you aren't dead by eod but that's just me...

Though it probably depends who it is

On February 05 2016 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:



well it would depend on who it is but gives a confirmed town basis. What is the cons?

On February 05 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
VA too srs. Gives me the heebie jeebies

On February 05 2016 02:08 nooniansoong wrote:


agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment.
Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2.

On February 05 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
i'm pretty okay with a kush lynch at the moment. might even vote him to see how it goes

On February 05 2016 02:21 Koshi wrote:

I HAVE YOUR AXE?

DAFUQ IS THIS ALWAYS.

On February 05 2016 02:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Rels - re 567

(1) because he didn't actually state it, (1a) the answer to that is no, depending on how he'd had stated that I'd ask why he's townreading him for defensiveness but that would have been explained surely
(2) his stating it gives me more information about where he stands because we've used two different methods to come to two different conclusions in an isolated situation. and I say isolated because Damdred has had play outside of that exchange.

still reading up...

On February 05 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote:

No. You have to say you are going away but stay in the thread and say null things.

On February 05 2016 07:22 Palmar wrote:
I will probably do things tomorrow. but for now I'm off.

On February 05 2016 07:36 darthfoley wrote:
i'm more hesitant on anything regarding onegu because I just vigi misshot him in another game and I feel bad about it

On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

On February 05 2016 08:21 ritoky wrote:
idk i have never been town in a game with NM in it. i guess i expected him to be more compelling and i am thus far underwhelmed.

On February 05 2016 08:22 ritoky wrote:
plus their fighting just doesn't feel like town v town. it's not super tunnely, it's not shitfighting, it's not full of conviction...it just lacks that edge of someone who is married to a terrible read fighting with someone for a clearly dogshit reason.

On February 05 2016 08:50 ritoky wrote:


being at the end of someone's tunnel makes reading them fairly impossible, at least for me.

and can you quote or summarize some of the parts re: rels vs nm and where you see it there?

On February 05 2016 09:00 Chezinu wrote:

Uhhhh..... uhhhh...... uhhh???

It's like Day 1 of Day 1 and these comments exist? Like the game really doesn't start til Day 2 of Day 1, don't ya know?

On February 05 2016 09:37 nooniansoong wrote:


Look what you did! Even if I wanted to start playing now, I couldn't. Because that might suggest that I give a fuck about what you think. And you thinking that I give a fuck about what you think would be too much for me to bear.

On February 05 2016 17:44 Koshi wrote:
Ok so. Last 4-5 pages have been dumb and NM. Ignored it all.

On February 05 2016 19:53 Rels wrote:

I liked all your posts since I went to sleep. Not lynching you today for sure. (=
I don't want to lynch Koshi, I don't think what you've said in your case make him scum; it's basically "we can't see his read progression". I don't know if Koshi is town, but I don't think this makes him scum.
VA might be scum actually. There is a good point in your case: VA going:
1 => "Should named VT claim and we all sheep him ?"
2 => "I'm doing this so I can have a way out of playing D1 by sheeping"
3 => "Actually that was a test to bait the strongman on named VT"
Seems weird.
Palmar and Zyrre are definitely lynch worthy.

On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:

##unvote
##Vote Palmar

*holds out hand*

On February 05 2016 20:07 marvellosity wrote:

just to be clear: (apparently i like to write this this game when i vote for someone) i voted Palmar and then flicked through his filter.

Tonally i don't see much that feels off in his filter. But he actually has quite a few posts and they haven't led anywhere. If Palmar is being lazy town I'd expect less posts. It's a bad post/decisively doing things ratio for him.

in short: poking with a stick, might well keep poking right up to the end if i don't get my nuts off by then

On February 05 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:

mmhmm. but if nothing else, it could be tremendously fun

On February 05 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:

Do you have a scumgame of his? I only remember 1 town game. It was horrid.

On February 05 2016 20:25 disformation wrote:
phone post:
i am pretty sure nm is scum. will explain later.

[b]##vote: NocturneMage[\b]

hint: why would someone who really does not like meta make a huge meta case he probablx does not believe in.

On February 05 2016 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't like the post when i saw it, but i also thought, maybe just newbie doing his newbie thang. but that was his first "reads" post in the other game, and it's so much more nuanced and thoughtful.

Further he said he feels "less pressure because he is town" - I don't think his posting feels unpressured or carefree - rather it feels like it's an effort.

On February 05 2016 22:19 boxerfred wrote:

Can we lynch this guy? He's not contributing, just derailing the thread, and there's no need for someone like this to survive a day where chances to hit scum are the lowest anyways.

On February 05 2016 22:24 boxerfred wrote:
Also I don't count Kush among the lurkers/inactives, amirite?

On February 05 2016 22:32 boxerfred wrote:

Give me a second. I'm on page 35. I'm not liking Kush even a tiny bit (see my latest post). Don't pin me down on that "who'd you prefer" thing, I don't really see the sense of that question. I'd prefer to lynch a scum member over an inactive one (especially since Onegu said in this and in the other game he's in that he's ill (afaik, might confuse something) so I believe him).

On February 05 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:
Let's all join the dark side together and just murder some people for fun. Small villages. around 1 million souls could suffice.

On February 05 2016 22:49 boxerfred wrote:
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now.

On February 05 2016 23:06 marvellosity wrote:

dunno why you didn't comment on the stuf i already said on him tbh.

On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
I should elaborate. Just had a cigarette, calmed down a bit.


Basically, the way Chezinu and Moosy approach this game pisses me off. Given that nooniansong also seems to not give a fuck makes me re-think if I really want to put in the (little) time I already have in those games. I signed up for this game to have fun and participate a lot. Contrary to my latest games, I've fully read the thread despite rolling town which I normally do not like that much. I tend to not put any effort into the game if I am town, instead I go really low and don't watch the thread too closely. I do not have a problem with low activity players but I do have a problem with people that just screw up the thread. I can't believe that all four of Onegu, Chezinu, MoosyDoosy and nooniansong are mafia. However, Chezinu's and MD's posting styles make it really hard for me to stay calm and analyze shit. My case on ritoky might've not been the best one, but it was solid. The kind of one-liner conversation that we mainly had in the last 25 pages is something that I think does not bring town on a good way to find scum.

So, to stay constructive, I'd even refrain from my ritoky case now and leave it standing. People can bring that up later in the game. I strongly recommend to lynch between Chezinu, nooniansong, MoosyDoosy and Onegu, and I'd actually add Koshi to that list since I have the impression that he doesn't do much for town.

Among those four (five) players, nooniansong is the obvious lynch target. Bad defence, no contribution for town. Same goes for Moosy and Chez, those guys even derail the thread into plain bullshit. Onegue, while being sick (which I believe), is someone who I can hardly read anyways. MoosyDoosy has his dumbtell of 3 vs. 4 mafia going for him, can't see this guy actually pulling this play as scum. So there's Chezinu and nooniansong left. Well, nooniansong should IMHO, if he's town, indeed replace the fuck out of this game, while I don't feel that Chez will be usefull anytime soon.

Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't read 42+.

On February 05 2016 23:21 Koshi wrote:

-Sense it makes none-

dafuq is "sense not makes no"

are you a potato?

On February 05 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:

I'm not lynching nooniansong on policy, I'm saying we lynch him due to his bad defences and his idgaf approach which makes me think he's the scum guy in the four guys I initially mentioned. Regarding NM and VA, I have no idea who of them is the scum one. If we lynch between them, we should shoot the other guy if the lynch flips town. I'm describing scenarios, I have not decided yet (or did you see a ##vote nooniansong somewhere?) stop nagging on me and instead get to the content on my psots, or just vote me and shut the fuck up

On February 06 2016 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
also @ kush/marv anyone non retarded here -

What do you make of this random NM/VA = 1 scum thing thats developed and we have to shoot/lynch us or w/e?

stupidest thing ive ever read in my life, scummy or morons?

On February 06 2016 00:50 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I am a bit surprised how easily ppl are voting Palmar, mainly over a meta read from a person who does not believe in meta. I like marvs explanation for his palmar vote a lot more, but I am not sure if I want to sheep marv.
Though damdy seems inclined to believe marvs assessment of Palmar and I like sheeping damdy.

On February 06 2016 02:15 darthfoley wrote:
I'm most confident in voting Zyrre right now.

##Vote: Zyrre

Can someone tell me why Palmar is being scum read by some of the more experienced players? Is it simply because he hasn't been as bossy?

On February 06 2016 02:47 NocturneMage wrote:


This is one of the reasons Zyrre should be in the 50/50 or "leave it to inv" category.

The other reason he should also be in the 50/50 category is that there is soemthing in his "shitty" post that everyone is going on about. Yes, it's bad. Yes, marvellosity has drawn a comparison between the 2010 post and this one. But there's one thing that is worthy of consideration and that's lack of time.

First sentence in Zyrre's post mentions he was (paraphrasing) pressed for time to play. The town perspective here is that if someone doesn't have much time to play their reads are not going to be so good - in fact their reads are not going to be good as either alignment, really - and whatever sticks out to them sticks out to them as they are reading.

The "game is hard" argument (subsequent post) has been used by people from both alignments, and quite frankly he's not the only one to have said this.

I still want to engage him if he's around through end of cycle. If he should be mafia, and he gets lynched (seeing as he's likely to be a competing wagon), we get possible information on his partners.

If people aren't voting Koshi or VA, then Palmar is the way to go today.

Again, as I skimmed through, whoever mentioned the lazy argument in his favour I'm not buying it. As I said for Moosy Doosy laziness/not playing is a meta/behaviour/whatever phrasing you want to use that is easily replicated.

Also having played Dark Tournament, I understand Palmar is not a player who plays or is active on weekends. This is not alignment indicative - judge him on the output so far.

And as such I'm voting him.

On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT.

On February 06 2016 03:21 disformation wrote:

I do not want to vote with NM.

On February 06 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
lynch onegu

On February 06 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote:
I'm gonna step up and be a town leader here. Guys, we need to lynch Onegu. He needs to get lynched. Everyone join my wagon immediately so we can get a claim.

On February 06 2016 03:36 nooniansoong wrote:
How am I a better plynch than Onegu???? like I'm probably the worst plynch out of all the people who are good plynches.

On February 06 2016 03:36 disformation wrote:

This.
Can we 100% lynch NM D2, if Palmar flips town?
You can 100% lynch me D3, if NM flips town.
Even though that would mean giving scum 3 ML. xD

On February 06 2016 03:48 Koshi wrote:

This doesn't proof anything but something funny I saw in database. Just proof that Palmar is also shit as town.

On February 06 2016 03:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Can people in the policy lynch category or advocating policy lynches explain why they are opting for the policy lynch over Palmar? (Koshi excepted, since he already did).

Noon, having played in NSM18 and you tried to pull the same thing on Onegu, can you at least state where you'd put your vote or if I had to give you a hammer who you would hammer for a scum lynch?

On February 06 2016 03:51 disformation wrote:


Yes. [1] is not AI alone. But combined with [2] it is. Why would he make a case he can not believe in.
[4]: He could easily have voted earlier if he thinks Palmar is scum. Not leave his option open sitting on a list of four ppl.
[5]:+ Show Spoiler +

Will look at some of Palmar's filter and try to come back with opinions on [3] again.

On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta?

On February 06 2016 04:11 disformation wrote:

One that probably no one gets, since I mentioned it a few times by now.

On February 06 2016 04:20 boxerfred wrote:
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv

On February 06 2016 04:29 NocturneMage wrote:
Like I'm sorry you are sick, don't get me wrong, but...I just....ugh.

On February 06 2016 04:23 disformation wrote:

okay let me try to explain my thought process here:

1) marv has a decent reason why palmar is scum.
2) nm has a bad reason why palmar is scum + I think NM is scum for that.

One of these two is apparently wrong. Unless both are right and both Palmar and NM are scum bussing for the lulz, which is highly unlikely.

As a bonus I share koshi's notion about lynching Palmar D1.
On the other hand: where the flower has palmar been all day.

On February 06 2016 04:26 disformation wrote:

marv: probably town. Don't think he would play this much as scum + I sheep damdy's tr on him.
palmar: I like marvs points, I don't like nm's points. His filter doesn't make me hard, it isn't garbage either.
noon: Uh. I am super prone to scum reading him when he is town and I do not know how his scum game. Really do not like him flailing about atm, though.

On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.

On February 06 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:

/discuss
I feel that this kind of post is very hard to make for scum.

On February 06 2016 04:56 NocturneMage wrote:


What I meant by that was that people who are of either alignment can post RL excuses. He's not been in thread, so he won't have reads. Are you seeing something I am not?

The pathetic part of the quote was a bit harsh on my end, I concede that.

On February 06 2016 04:58 Zyrre wrote:
I really have no idea about noon, but at least he has posted some reads and is posting now. Rather neutral at the moment.

I obviously dont know about Palmers meta, but I feel like his early statement:
"This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever."

Seems like possible scum play. He has posted almost no suspicions, and if he doesnt townread anyone he can always jump on votes for whoever is getting lynched atm.

On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself.

On February 06 2016 05:06 nooniansoong wrote:

it doesn't seem like palmar, zyrre are shaping up to be the two wagons to you?

On February 06 2016 05:09 nooniansoong wrote:

you just don't like me for ideological reasons.

On February 06 2016 05:10 boxerfred wrote:

Why exactly Palmar? In your own words, please don't give me a "marv said blah"

On February 06 2016 05:12 boxerfred wrote:

I did, that's I say "exactly". Basically I want to know why you lynch Palmar over Kush in like 3 sentences.

On February 06 2016 05:15 boxerfred wrote:
a. lynch the player who contributed nothing, doesn't even attempt a decent defence, looks scummy af but doesn't give a fuck
b. lynch the player who is afk but known to be a decent townie, who had a good and townie looking start

I can't understand why you all go for Palmar over nooniansong. I'm out. I'm cop. Bye.

On February 06 2016 05:21 ritoky wrote:


i am content with marvs case on palmar, and palmar's lack of thread presence + clear indication of target or person he plans to sheep is an okay reason to lynch him.

noon is probably town for reasons i am not allowed to speak about yet.

i am kinda considering a koshi lynch tbh, he doesn't scream town. plus he left saying he "100% disagrees with the lynch" while doing nothing koshi-like to fight it. that's super hipster of him, and town koshi burns with passion, isn't a hipster.

On February 06 2016 05:22 nooniansoong wrote:


jat you dont think this case is necessarily townie?

On February 06 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Is it just me or did a bunch of ppl gtfo of the thread as soon as Palmar hit a lot votes? -.-

On February 06 2016 06:14 NocturneMage wrote:


Also what about the people who are off wagon?

On February 06 2016 06:16 boxerfred wrote:

OH REALLY do you want to imply that Palmar is a bad lynch? YES!

On February 06 2016 06:20 nooniansoong wrote:
@jat, told ya so, in regards to the two wagons.

On February 06 2016 06:23 NocturneMage wrote:


Didn't mean just noon but most of the people off wagon, save maybe darthfoley.
I mean Palmar's had his vote on you all cycle.
And boxerfred, like I don't even.

On February 06 2016 06:26 NocturneMage wrote:
I have never played with Chezinu, does he ALWAYS play like this?

On February 06 2016 06:32 Chezinu wrote:
Actually I can name about 4 more games I faked claimed something and got people to believe it... I'm an addict aren't I?

On February 06 2016 06:52 darthfoley wrote:


I feel quite uneasy with this Palmar lynch right now. There's been little push back, even though people have said they aren't very confident about it. He just seems like perfect lynchbait for mafia right now. They kill arguably the best town on TL because he's been somewhat AFK and not even one counter wagon gets started? I do agree that his one post referencing Superbia mafia flip is not good, but I think Palmar mafia (from what i've heard) is way more capable than the play he's shown so far. Idk why he would allow his own lynch to happen so easily

There's only 1h10 left, but I don't think the Palmar vote is right. We could just have an investigative role check him N1 or something. Zyrre is a much better lynch imo, he has literally gone with thread sentiment with almost all his votes, INCLUDING Palmar, the primary lynch target.

I know it's probably too late, but come join the Zyrre wagon boys and girls.

On February 06 2016 06:59 disformation wrote:

Yeah, that is one of the points why I am on this wagon.
Not showing up after getting a wagon on oneself comes usually from scum imo.
But the wagon only really started recently and he hasn't been here all day.

On February 06 2016 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
I can't escape the socialising so I've not read anything. So many palmar votes and not so on Zyrre. I'm gonna vote Zyrre, he's my top % play.

Palmer could well still be mafia but the votecount made me a little nervous and I really think Zyrre is mafia. Maybe palmar can have another day?

unvote
##vote Zyrre

I'm not going to be able to read ppls replies to this really so just do what you think is best. This is what I think is best for now and that's all I have control over.

On February 06 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote:
Going to play snooker. Willing to consolidate or w.e the word is.

Palmar is ok if marv/jat want it.

On February 06 2016 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
I can't escape the socialising so I've not read anything. So many palmar votes and not so on Zyrre. I'm gonna vote Zyrre, he's my top % play.

Palmer could well still be mafia but the votecount made me a little nervous and I really think Zyrre is mafia. Maybe palmar can have another day?

unvote
##vote Zyrre

I'm not going to be able to read ppls replies to this really so just do what you think is best. This is what I think is best for now and that's all I have control over.

On February 06 2016 07:24 Koshi wrote:

Yes pls. Second best case this game was on him.

On February 06 2016 07:34 Zyrre wrote:
Cant a guy play some dota without getting lynched?

Darth, I agree it seemed a bit odd with no pushback to Palmar. However now there is and some are voting for me instead.

You say you want to lynch palmar day 2. Surely if he is this afk it would be easier to read me day2 to determine if I was mafia than if he keeps not posting?

On February 06 2016 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:


I know he wasn't close to the lynch in Outlaw day 1, but regarding how those suspicious of him died off...

Just saying.

And yeah the point is here, people know Palmar, but my fear is he is too good a player, let him off the hook like this...

Damdred if you think both are mafia you should be voting Palmar honestly. Why would you think he wouldn't try to WIFOM if he should be so?

On February 06 2016 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I'm thinking the mafia team is like palmar onegu and ry with someone else.

And I'm thinking onegu is coming back last minute to hammer the least wanted team mate.

And I think I could be wrong on palmar to some degree my gut says mafia though. But zyrre has been pretty scummy today.

On February 06 2016 07:49 Damdred wrote:
It's a bit of a lot of people have been towny with very few scummy atm to me

On February 06 2016 07:51 ritoky wrote:
even if i wanted to, i am not gonna vote for palmar and hand a hammer to moosy, 1gu, or palmar himself. that sounds stupid.

On February 06 2016 07:55 nooniansoong wrote:
Thing about that zyrre post is he presents a hypothetical situation in which Palmer is mafia. Dunno if scum would think of that.

On February 06 2016 07:59 Palmar wrote:
i thought i was safe, sorry

gg

On February 06 2016 08:16 NocturneMage wrote:


And I gave a mitigating argument for that being night and day.

On February 06 2016 08:16 disformation wrote:
Great. Now I literally trust no one in this game.

On February 06 2016 08:18 Rels wrote:

'cause in case he survives it's town indicative. In case he dies it's no info. There is 0 AI stuff in that post alone.

On February 06 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote:
i will need to be in front of a computer to make this argument and i wont be tonight so good night.

i really am not mafia

On February 06 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote:
Why is it that Ritoky vote and my switch was scummy but koshis sheep on Zy wasn't scummy?

On February 07 2016 03:16 nooniansoong wrote:


The page before I said that.
You're not scum because you're douchey exactly.
I mean you prob aren't scum at all but you might be.

On February 07 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:

You want me to shoot Onegu? I can do that. With Pleasure.

On February 07 2016 03:34 marvellosity wrote:

No no no

We need the information. You must know this bbz

On February 07 2016 03:36 marvellosity wrote:
Also have some faith (to eceryone) that ppl who are a ? We'll get a read on in time. It can and will happen. Beliiiiieeeve

On February 07 2016 03:57 boxerfred wrote:
Can Damdred please step up, he's a great townie if he rolled town

On February 07 2016 05:41 boxerfred wrote:
disformation, can you please draw conclusions (ie reads) from your vca now? who's you top scum guess?

On February 07 2016 06:05 VayneAuthority wrote:


Don't, I can help you figure out the night kills, that and voting is my specialty. Feel free to keep posting random troll shit you may or may not believe in to mindfuck mafia though, that's all night is good for.

On February 07 2016 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
My other half says vayne is a moron and kush sounds like an old miserable man

So those are my reads

On February 16 2016 09:44 ritoky wrote:
wow did koshi want me dead in that qt.

On February 16 2016 09:55 disformation wrote:
Thank god this is over.
It is really hard to try and solve the game multiple days in a row, where nothing is happening and it did not matter that much because in the end the game solved itself. -.-

If ppl have post game advise or stuff, you are welcome to hit me with that.

I liked doing that VCA stuff and think I had some good points with that (well after my first bad attempt at it). Was also happy to find that koshi <> noon association later on. Early game was my usual waffle a ton, find a TR to sheep game plan, but that also worked out.
Still need to be way more confident, when I actually find stuff.

I also had tons of fun with being able to figure out a few of Chez's posts, I feel other ppl had way more trouble with that.

Balance wasn't too bad imo, but I somehow felt the night actions were screwing town over really hard. Got a bit salty over that.

On February 16 2016 10:32 VayneAuthority wrote:


its cool though, the one night i had complete control of mafia actions I rekt even if it didnt matter at all :D

and GG well hosted by hosts and well played by the town, a seriously hard town to play against. Im pretty sure thats my first time being lynched as mafia ever on this website.

On February 16 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Koshi, "I still don't believe Chez is blue lol."

I DID IT!!!

On February 16 2016 23:17 Spikasaur wrote:


Yiss. 'Tis very interesting. Like listening to a morbid version of Big Brother on the radio. Maybe after a few more watches, as a lot of the game seems to be poking on how people have previously played - obv something a newb will have no use in. Looking forward to seeing more of this tho!

On February 17 2016 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh no.. i was referring to kush's post, i think that was what he was meaning.
On the nomination, I personally don't think murdering an almost afk mafia team is some spectacular play but that's something almost noone agrees with me on and i don't really care.