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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:26 GMT
#1961
Comments apply to all the people in the line.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2016 15:32 GMT
#1962
8 pages for Koshi pretty few by this point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:32 GMT
#1963
On February 09 2016 00:21 nooniansoong wrote:
i like koshi for possible tryhardish scum
then nm for possible but unlikely tryhard superscum


both of those are completely legit and possible if the scumteam isnt superlurk squad.

I still don't have a 100% tr on koshi but leaning town. its possible because of how the game played out + we have a lot of good players he doesnt feel the need to do much? i dont know honestly. All i can remember is him tunneling you and doesn't seem super cocky on any reads besides that which isnt normal.

If palmar is scum though, he hard defended him since the beginning when he didnt really have to and made himself look super bad for basically no reason. Maybe I should look more at what he has done to help town though because I dont think its been much

As for NM, its possible he is going for a BH style scum play but I honestly just started ignoring him. If you read his posts in depth they are actually just long walls of texts of nothing again recently that dont mean anything and are borderline english.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:34 GMT
#1964
There was also the thing with NM where he says I am bussing palmar pre-emptively and at the same time paints me for things as scummy that would by proxy make him scummy! which is terrible hypocritical logic that is often used by scum.
I come in for the scraps
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 08 2016 15:35 GMT
#1965
vayne i think you underestimate nm's content. seems like he made a point about you that you disagreed with so you put your hands over your ears and shouted LALALLALALA.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:36 GMT
#1966
If Koshi is town, he's playing scummy. I've explained it somewhere.
On February 08 2016 01:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 01:27 Koshi wrote:
1) I talked way more about Zyyre than that. I commented on him as soon as marv made his case. and a couple times more. Also Zyrre was not going to happen when I left for soccer.

2) I townread him for having 4 pages of filter in the early games and because I thought his posts would be more disconnected if he was mafia (tell= story to his posts, might be a bad tell, but it worked 2/2 in the past). And I didn't want to lynch a strong town player D1 who was afk. I actually was debating to consolidate on Palmar when I left for soccer, but instead I typed "I disagree with this lynch" to make sure it wouldn't be too easy to lynch an afk strong town.

3) I have no problem with any of those posts.


What exactly makes me mafia in those posts Rels? You never say it makes me mafia, you just say you don't understand or it makes no sense.

So tell me. What makes it mafia Koshi?

It's actually how a scum would act.
About your general attitude: tunnel on one particular player (kush) so it's easy to not do stuff; post one-shot stuff on other people (Moosy, Onegu, Damdred) that does not lead anywhere to pretend you're doing stuff. If you're town, you're playing a scum game.

About your Palmar read: you were against his lynch but didn't do much to save him. Darth started the counter wagon, not you. That's how scum generally acts when a teammate is lynched: they don't want to be seen as "the guy that stopped a scum lynch", but they don't awnt to simply lynch their partner either.

About your vote on Zyrre: kush, your big scumrezad, was voting him. It makes no sense that you voted with your main scurmead when you were wary of Palmar. It makes sense as scum though, 'cause you woulldn't care about stuff like that.

I see what you mean with the "if he is scum with Palmar he didn't set himself up to be in a good position post-Palmar lynch" idea though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:38 GMT
#1967
I don't know if that is really true though. He always said "I'm Ok with Palmar's lynch but ....", then as soon as N1 hits he was OK lynching Palmar.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:41 GMT
#1968
On February 09 2016 00:38 Rels wrote:
I don't know if that is really true though. He always said "I'm Ok with Palmar's lynch but ....", then as soon as N1 hits he was OK lynching Palmar.


Yea which is my main way to catch koshi as scum, wishy washyness. I am opposed to lynching him tomorrow unless he keeps playing like this but we'll see what he can do next phase for town.
I come in for the scraps
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:42 GMT
#1969
Like here are the first posts of Koshi that talked about Palmar N1, if we skip the "Palmar modkill" stuff.
On February 07 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote:
I also decided that Palmar should die. If he is mafia a lot of people become town.

On February 07 2016 00:55 Koshi wrote:
Kush/Palmar/Chez/x

Yeah he kinda defended him D1, but (1) not that hard and (2) after D1 was over he was OK with Palmar scum. So I don't know if this idea of "Koshi defends Palmar too much to be his partner" is really this strong.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:43 GMT
#1970
On February 09 2016 00:35 nooniansoong wrote:
vayne i think you underestimate nm's content. seems like he made a point about you that you disagreed with so you put your hands over your ears and shouted LALALLALALA.


not really, you'll see that I conceded that his meta case on palmar was good and I give him props when he writes things that make sense.

I know you dont care much but go look at his recent posting again and tell me its remotely close to his original cases, its borderline gibberish/english.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:44 GMT
#1971
like i asked him to clarify what his point was and he says im being intentionally stupid then peaces. lol?
I come in for the scraps
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:46 GMT
#1972
I don't believe NM can be mafia with Palmar, and Palmar is 99% scum, so I'm pretty sure NM is town.
He was fighting pretty hard for Palmar to be lynched D1, he even might have been the reason Damdred switched.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 08 2016 15:49 GMT
#1973
On February 09 2016 00:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 00:21 nooniansoong wrote:
i like koshi for possible tryhardish scum
then nm for possible but unlikely tryhard superscum


both of those are completely legit and possible if the scumteam isnt superlurk squad.

I still don't have a 100% tr on koshi but leaning town. its possible because of how the game played out + we have a lot of good players he doesnt feel the need to do much? i dont know honestly. All i can remember is him tunneling you and doesn't seem super cocky on any reads besides that which isnt normal.

If palmar is scum though, he hard defended him since the beginning when he didnt really have to and made himself look super bad for basically no reason. Maybe I should look more at what he has done to help town though because I dont think its been much

As for NM, its possible he is going for a BH style scum play but I honestly just started ignoring him. If you read his posts in depth they are actually just long walls of texts of nothing again recently that dont mean anything and are borderline english.


The bolded is a very bad reason to townread/townlean anyone let alone a player of (from what I understand) Koshi's calibre.

Rels had probably the best argument as for why Koshi is likely scum. To the points you have (bolded), he pointed out that a lot of Koshi's reads went nowhere, a common scum trait. Day 1 it was the same thing I pointed out with how he approached reads on ritoky and Damdred.

That read is actually pretty terrible.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:49 GMT
#1974
On February 09 2016 00:46 Rels wrote:
I don't believe NM can be mafia with Palmar, and Palmar is 99% scum, so I'm pretty sure NM is town.
He was fighting pretty hard for Palmar to be lynched D1, he even might have been the reason Damdred switched.


Then explain to me why he is trying to ride this palmar cred into the sunset and then some one that voted BEFORE him is scummy and im not even trying to get any palmar cred, i literally dont give a shit. I just vote what I think and thats it like ive always done. And then when you try to reason with him he just says "no, you're stupid" and leaves.

If that's town I really can't see myself ever getting along with him.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:50 GMT
#1975
On February 09 2016 00:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 00:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 09 2016 00:21 nooniansoong wrote:
i like koshi for possible tryhardish scum
then nm for possible but unlikely tryhard superscum


both of those are completely legit and possible if the scumteam isnt superlurk squad.

I still don't have a 100% tr on koshi but leaning town. its possible because of how the game played out + we have a lot of good players he doesnt feel the need to do much? i dont know honestly. All i can remember is him tunneling you and doesn't seem super cocky on any reads besides that which isnt normal.

If palmar is scum though, he hard defended him since the beginning when he didnt really have to and made himself look super bad for basically no reason. Maybe I should look more at what he has done to help town though because I dont think its been much

As for NM, its possible he is going for a BH style scum play but I honestly just started ignoring him. If you read his posts in depth they are actually just long walls of texts of nothing again recently that dont mean anything and are borderline english.


The bolded is a very bad reason to townread/townlean anyone let alone a player of (from what I understand) Koshi's calibre.

Rels had probably the best argument as for why Koshi is likely scum. To the points you have (bolded), he pointed out that a lot of Koshi's reads went nowhere, a common scum trait. Day 1 it was the same thing I pointed out with how he approached reads on ritoky and Damdred.

That read is actually pretty terrible.


oh here he is to pop into the thread call me scum and leave again and call me stupid and fuck my wife and then leave ^^ just in time
I come in for the scraps
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:52 GMT
#1976
On February 09 2016 00:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 00:46 Rels wrote:
I don't believe NM can be mafia with Palmar, and Palmar is 99% scum, so I'm pretty sure NM is town.
He was fighting pretty hard for Palmar to be lynched D1, he even might have been the reason Damdred switched.


Then explain to me why he is trying to ride this palmar cred into the sunset and then some one that voted BEFORE him is scummy and im not even trying to get any palmar cred, i literally dont give a shit. I just vote what I think and thats it like ive always done. And then when you try to reason with him he just says "no, you're stupid" and leaves.

If that's town I really can't see myself ever getting along with him.

Good timing. p:
I have no idea why he's tunneling you so much, you two are very likely town for voting Palmar over Zyrre in my mind.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2016 15:52 GMT
#1977
like i mentioned before, the most worrying thing about koshi for me is that i don't have a 100% (or near) townread on him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:52 GMT
#1978
NM you're actually extremely aggressive, I have no idea if it's usual for you or not but it's surprising at least.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2016 15:53 GMT
#1979
On February 09 2016 00:52 Rels wrote:
NM you're actually extremely aggressive, I have no idea if it's usual for you or not but it's surprising at least.

mmm. Have my own tinfoils regarding this but i tend to keep them to myself until i decide they might not actually be tinfoils.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 15:54 GMT
#1980
On February 09 2016 00:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 00:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 09 2016 00:21 nooniansoong wrote:
i like koshi for possible tryhardish scum
then nm for possible but unlikely tryhard superscum


both of those are completely legit and possible if the scumteam isnt superlurk squad.

I still don't have a 100% tr on koshi but leaning town. its possible because of how the game played out + we have a lot of good players he doesnt feel the need to do much? i dont know honestly. All i can remember is him tunneling you and doesn't seem super cocky on any reads besides that which isnt normal.

If palmar is scum though, he hard defended him since the beginning when he didnt really have to and made himself look super bad for basically no reason. Maybe I should look more at what he has done to help town though because I dont think its been much

As for NM, its possible he is going for a BH style scum play but I honestly just started ignoring him. If you read his posts in depth they are actually just long walls of texts of nothing again recently that dont mean anything and are borderline english.


The bolded is a very bad reason to townread/townlean anyone let alone a player of (from what I understand) Koshi's calibre.

Rels had probably the best argument as for why Koshi is likely scum. To the points you have (bolded), he pointed out that a lot of Koshi's reads went nowhere, a common scum trait. Day 1 it was the same thing I pointed out with how he approached reads on ritoky and Damdred.

That read is actually pretty terrible.

Like, this comment is aggressive for nothing.
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