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On February 08 2016 06:50 NocturneMage wrote:
Marv why do you think Koshi is town?
What do you think about Rels' case?
eh, i only skimmed it, i'll go read it properly now/a bit later 
my townread on koshi is less entrenched than i'd normally expect it to be at this stage of the game (normally by day 2 he's a banker)
it's like... he feels like town koshi, but it's all a little more subdued than normal
I remember one thing in the case - something to do with how Koshi's vote changed when it really shouldn't or something. That's something a town Koshi can definitely do. He made a similar switch in some game we played a while back (Haunted Mini maybe?) and it looked really terrible except it wasn't.
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On February 08 2016 07:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
D: marv give me attention. You're throwing out reads on everyone and I feel excluded.
i kinda feel like you're absence/dgaf during most of d1 into some sort of relative productivity is kinda townie, but i wouldn't bet strongly on it
bet you're glad you asked 
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not particularly, but if it makes you happy to give it, fill your boots
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On February 08 2016 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
not particularly, but if it makes you happy to give it, fill your boots yesss it will. tbh, this is what I would expect from town marv, but you do seem a bit more subdued and quiet than usual. ^^ care to explain?
my life is a bit different from normal. trying not to be too crazy as other half is watching. All my posts for the last 53 hours or so barring the last 3 have been made on a phone where normally i play on my work pc / on my laptop at home. Indeed I'm not at home now, i'm with my other half at his.
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On February 08 2016 07:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 04:17 darthfoley wrote:Marv's Palmar progression + Show Spoiler +On February 04 2016 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
jat: i don't have a particular opinion on Palmar On February 04 2016 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
oh Palmar gave a longer/prettier answer. well boo On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.
Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting. ##unvote
##Vote Palmar*holds out hand* On February 06 2016 02:35 marvellosity wrote:okay, quick post before I go. Thoughts on the lynch: Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff. Zyrre - I wrote stuff already. But really I just want people to do this. I will make it easy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=Zyrrehttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422313-newbie-mini-mafia-xlv?user=ZyrreHis filter from this game, and his towngame in the newbie. Just read the first page of the newbie game. Just do it.. I find it very, very hard to believe these 2 filters are from the same alignment. The filters are just *so* *different*. I'm not even going to do any explanation. If you can't see it, stab yourself in the face for being terrible. For him to be town I'd have to believe he's just SOOOOO overawed by this game (I do not believe this for a moment, not to this extent). I think I trust jat. tbh if I didn't think I was coming back at all before deadline I'd place my vote on Zyrre right now. But I will leave it on Palmar for now and change it later as necessary. On February 06 2016 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
I can't escape the socialising so I've not read anything. So many palmar votes and not so on Zyrre. I'm gonna vote Zyrre, he's my top % play.
Palmer could well still be mafia but the votecount made me a little nervous and I really think Zyrre is mafia. Maybe palmar can have another day?
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##vote Zyrre
I'm not going to be able to read ppls replies to this really so just do what you think is best. This is what I think is best for now and that's all I have control over. I agree that Marv was not invested in the Palmar lynch and was quite wishy washy for someone who apparently has the hard reads on him. "I think his absence is non-admissible... but it could come from either alignment... not totally sure though... oh yea btw if he comes back while i'm gone and says im scum, DONT LISTEN TO HIM (even though I just said his play could come from either alignment") If his lack of play could come from either alignment, it's false to say it's non-admissible. He also says that if he thought he wasn't going to come back before the deadline, he would vote for Zyrre, but that he's keeping his vote on Palmar and change it later if necessary. Except that a few paragraphs earlier he specifically told everyone not to drink the Palmar Kool-Aid and keep your vote on him. He then jumps on the "VC is making me nervous train at #1319" (I had commented on it at #1308) and switches to Zyrre. This progression/line of reasoning throughout is suspicious to me and i'm scum reading marv Get Zyrre ML D1 is easy, while knowing it will leave Palmar in an almost impossible hole to fight out of D2 given the rapid vote swing, guaranteeing another mislynch. I really disagree with that last sentence. Your suggestion of scum!marv saving town!Palmar for another is an impossible situation I think.
it's 100% ridiculous. in scummarv vs townpalmar scenario, getting rid of Palmar immediately is a huge win for me and there is less than 0% chance i would switch to zyrre when i could stick on Palmar. Less than 0% is an impossible and non-existent figure, that's how outlandish it is.
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On February 08 2016 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:On February 08 2016 07:22 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2016 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On February 08 2016 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
not particularly, but if it makes you happy to give it, fill your boots yesss it will. tbh, this is what I would expect from town marv, but you do seem a bit more subdued and quiet than usual. ^^ care to explain? my life is a bit different from normal. trying not to be too crazy as other half is watching. All my posts for the last 53 hours or so barring the last 3 have been made on a phone where normally i play on my work pc / on my laptop at home. Indeed I'm not at home now, i'm with my other half at his. mMMm, hope everything works out well lAd. Including this Mafia game.
*especially* this mafia game :p
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On February 08 2016 07:30 nooniansoong wrote:
killing an afk palmar is not a huge win.
you're mafia
you can't be so dumb to not understand that an afk Palmar will likely become not-afk at some point
Palmar has 80 games played. find me one where he stays afk the whole game past d1 and i won't try lynching you for saying things you cant possibly believe
gogoogogogo
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i have actually been mafia in a game and had the pleasure of an afk-palmar being lynched day 1. that was useful. i won.
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On February 08 2016 07:42 disformation wrote:
Were are in dire need of information from all the guys who did like nothing this game.
Chez/Onegu/MD
Onegus filter is literally: "sry sick" "reading" "still catching up". And while him being sick and trying to catch up to the thread sucks and is understandable, we have 0 clue as to what his alignment is.
i definitely think chez is on the mafia side of a coinflip, i've given a few reasons over the course of the game.
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what if i stop talking to you because you're either trolling or scum?
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On February 08 2016 07:50 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 07:46 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2016 07:42 disformation wrote:
Were are in dire need of information from all the guys who did like nothing this game.
Chez/Onegu/MD
Onegus filter is literally: "sry sick" "reading" "still catching up". And while him being sick and trying to catch up to the thread sucks and is understandable, we have 0 clue as to what his alignment is. i definitely think chez is on the mafia side of a coinflip, i've given a few reasons over the course of the game. Maybe I am really either seeing no scum or scum everywhere because it really is something hilarious like Palmar/MD/Cherz/+1 of boxer, noon, Onegu... -.-
remember the whole game doesn't need to get solved right now
we kill one mafia at a time and get more and more information over time.
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On February 08 2016 07:57 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 07:46 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2016 07:42 disformation wrote:
Were are in dire need of information from all the guys who did like nothing this game.
Chez/Onegu/MD
Onegus filter is literally: "sry sick" "reading" "still catching up". And while him being sick and trying to catch up to the thread sucks and is understandable, we have 0 clue as to what his alignment is. i definitely think chez is on the mafia side of a coinflip, i've given a few reasons over the course of the game. I am annoyed by Chez's last post where he says his list of boxerfred/you/disformation is interesting. You said he was misapplying his own criteria earlier day 1, but as someone who has never played with him, do you mind clarifying this?
So essentially there is this thing called the Chezinu rule. It basically goes that the first person in a game to throw suspicion on Chezinu for being trolly is mafia, and it's had a surprisingly high hitrate.
In this game, disformation just asked Chezinu what he was talking about - he wasnt implying Chezinu was suspicious, but after Koshi voted disfo, Chezinu voted him on the basis of his rule.
So essentially he shouldn't have been doing that. And I didn't like that his reason was that he was following Koshi.
And yea that list was silly. it's not helpful. it's not even trying to be helpful veiled in his usual stories.
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On February 08 2016 08:13 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 06:38 Chezinu wrote:On February 06 2016 06:36 disformation wrote:
Looking at the game you played with ritoky and MD:
I think you named both palmar and zyrre apparently at random. Why Zyrre over Palmar? I don't like it when Palmar dies... it's makes me sad. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 08:26 Chezinu wrote:On February 05 2016 14:30 Chezinu wrote:
Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game:
Chezinu
Palmar
nooniansoong
Zyrre
Interesting picks I must say. Interesting indeed. These quotes of Chezinu were right before and after the flip. I could TRY and imply what he was trying to do in the first post? I think the final quote that list of names I think he picked from his mafia game that ritoky, me and MD wre playing last night. He was supposed to pick his TRs and then picks both Palmar and Zyrre from that game and then votes Zyrre. It's still confusing as hell sort of because in that game, he admitted he picked the names randomly but if he's trolling....god he's just confusing as hell.
That 2nd quote - I was mafia with chez that game and carried our team to victory
Believe it or not boys, but I've carried more scum teams to victory than any of you have played scum here.
Oh, the good old days
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Although my point was, it's interesting that chez should choose that game to quote from
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On February 08 2016 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,
Have you ever trolled a game and never have time to actually play the game? But every time you go to play, you end up trolling?
Troll problems.
Ok, it's time to get stuff done.
Boxer why you mafia?
Marv do you love me?
PAAAAALLLLLLMAAAARRR!!!!!!!
I love you if you are town
Do I love you, chez?
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That's my logic too, which is why I've been getting annoyed by the scumreads towards me.
Whether palmar is town or mafia, my treatment of him makes zero sense if I am mafia
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Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.
Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline.
That's a conscious decision.
A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence.
'splain?
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On February 08 2016 20:14 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 00:12 Rels wrote:
I read Palmar's filter. He is the lynch today whatever happens. In addition of the "marv read" (him being active but with no direction the first 24 hours), the biggest thing is how he was AFK the whole Friday, and he never explained it. A townie would never do that; if he knew he needed to AFK 24 hours he would say it (especially since the pressure was on him before he disappeared), if it was unexpected he would have said a word in thread. This attitude is extremely scum indicative. This is what I and Superbia did during PyP; super active early, then having a much harder time to post all the time later.
I'm not saying he didn't have something to do BTW, maybe he did; I'm saying his attitude regarding how he AFK was scum.
funny thing is, this is actually one of the main reasons i got lynched (as mafia) in Artanis' first invite game in December or whenever it was.
I'm almost always somewhat/totally absent over weekends, like Palmar, but on that occasion I just didn't mention it. I always mention it as town. It was pretty silly of me really.
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