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On February 09 2016 19:05 boxerfred wrote:
oh, EBWOP to my case: Chez didn't want Palmar to be lynched, but to be shot N1. I fucking suck. I wanna cry now.
EBWOP #2: No he indeed wanted him to die D1! Gosh I suck at reading and reading comprehension. Ignore last post.
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so final EBWOP:
"b. "I was secretly hoping that Palmar died N1". If that is the case, why didn't Chez vote for Palmar D2? And, way more important:"
Not N1, but D1.
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Back to work now  ( let me know any questions.
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On February 09 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
@boxerfred : it is night you can't vote yet. =D
oh. as I said, carnival :D I kinda lost track
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On February 09 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:ugh.... Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.
ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans
I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct
Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
This post is good. On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good. On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though This is also good. On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good. On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen. well what do you think? Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good. On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good. On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter? i've read the thread you chose the less enlightening option. Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts? I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes so what do you think of ritoky? comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good. And most interestingly: On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town. That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say. No, why not? There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically). When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly. So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right. now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,. Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable? tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum? more posts that don't go together. How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town? how?
Easy. Scumlean is a thrown out list of reads, mostly based on gut and first impressions. The hard defense comes from a filter dive at a later D1. Of course you can nail me on that, but I think it wouldn't make sense for scum!bf to slightly bus palmar and then go full defense mode once he's the lynch.
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On February 09 2016 20:31 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
all the posts he is quoting from Palmar as "good" come before the post he made on Palmar saying he didn't like him and he's a scumlean.
really doesn't add up. Mm good find. One thing that makes me waffke on bf a lot too is t hat his meta is usually "serious : scum". I'm eating, will be there in like 2 hours to talk more
yeah this too, I feel like marv and Rels got strong points on me here. I play way better when I'm scum. However you guys also know that I'm mislynched so fucking often.
hm, can't say much against what marv called me out on regarding my palmar read besides what I just said. Also Rels' meta read on me is kinda what I think about myself, too. But, yeah, would be a shame if I get mislynched now that I put so much fucking effort in that completely disregarded case regarding Chez.
Makes me want to puke that my case gets such great reactions.
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On February 09 2016 20:47 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:ugh.... On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.
ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans
I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct
On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
This post is good. On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good. On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though This is also good. On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good. On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen. well what do you think? Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good. On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good. On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter? i've read the thread you chose the less enlightening option. Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts? I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes so what do you think of ritoky? comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good. And most interestingly: On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town. That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say. No, why not? There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically). When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly. So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right. now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,. Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable? tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum? more posts that don't go together. How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town? how? Easy. Scumlean is a thrown out list of reads, mostly based on gut and first impressions. The hard defense comes from a filter dive at a later D1. Of course you can nail me on that, but I think it wouldn't make sense for scum!bf to slightly bus palmar and then go full defense mode once he's the lynch.
ebwop: I have no problem to bus scum teammates D1 as I've shown already. I would've pinned Palmar down I guess.
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Also keep in mind that I dropped a lot of reads already and changed some, too. Heavily. Compare that to scum flying under the radar, without dropping reads. I think it's more town indicative to drop lots of reads yet change them (when the progression makes sense) than to not say anything at all and remain unconstructive.
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On February 09 2016 20:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 20:47 boxerfred wrote:On February 09 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:ugh.... On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.
ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans
I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct
On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
This post is good. On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good. On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though This is also good. On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good. On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen. well what do you think? Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good. On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good. On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter? i've read the thread you chose the less enlightening option. Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts? I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes so what do you think of ritoky? comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good. And most interestingly: On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town. That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say. No, why not? There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically). When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly. So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right. now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,. Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable? tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum? more posts that don't go together. How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town? how? Easy. Scumlean is a thrown out list of reads, mostly based on gut and first impressions. The hard defense comes from a filter dive at a later D1. Of course you can nail me on that, but I think it wouldn't make sense for scum!bf to slightly bus palmar and then go full defense mode once he's the lynch. it also doesn't make much sense for a townbf to dislike Palmar's reaction to what you said, only to later like it when nothing had changed. You literally said you didn't like his reaction and later called it good :/
hm. I kinda defended palmar for the sake of defence only since I didn#t even understand what problem people had with him. Guess it doesn't make sense.
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On February 09 2016 20:56 disformation wrote:
TBF I think BF's scum meta is to try and lurk as hard as possible.
On the other hand self-metaing is a bit meh.
This is wrong. When I'm scum, I'm precise, very "correct" (the british kind of correctness), even on point. I tend to play messy and emotional as town though (or completely inactive).
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I just dislike that I post a huge case and all that happens is that I'm under fire now.
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So I agree that the Palmar read progression was essentially dumb, yeh. However I also say that I'm town, and you shouldn't lynch me anytime soon. Especially not without reviewing the Chez case.
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Hm what can I Do to Not be mislynched then?
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I'm pretty sure I'll manage to do that.
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So here is what happened D1:
Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu
VayneAuthority (1): MoosyDoosy
Koshi is currently scum read by some persons. He went late Zyrre. He put his vote on Zyrre when it was 6-6 split between Palmar and Zyrre, and he does it rather late:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503495-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken-voting-thread?page=3#48
On February 06 2016 07:42 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote zyrre
Roughly 20 minutes before deadline. The situation we're in is that Palmar is on the very edge of being lynched. He is the Godfather, yet he is afk - a big scum role that can confuse town really hard (remember - Finncop works not like the standard cop!) would be a huge loss D1.
Koshi seems to not care too much for this game D1. His reads are meager, he's not pushing anyone too hard, he feels wishywashy. But then it comes to his vote: initially, he forgets the "##unvote", then he corrects it, writing his vote in the correct way. However, it doesn't seem to be enough for him:
On February 06 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote:
voted zyrre
Why is that so important, given that the previous post was absolutely correct? It's tiny, yep, and might not be alignment indicative, but I can see a nervous close-to-deadline-with-GF-close-to-being-lynched scum!Koshi acting nervous.
That would bring us to:
Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu
VayneAuthority (1): MoosyDoosy
Chez' vote on Zyrre would also make sense as scum. He said EoD2 after the Palmar lynch that he originally wanted to see Palmar dead D1 already - but he didn't vote him.
marvellosity's switch feels weird to me but yeah...not gonna put the tinfoil hat back on again, he was the one to initiate the whole Palmar thingy.
Rels feels townie to me. He's active and eager to do stuff, but the biggest thing is his genuine reaction to the LS replacement. On second thought though I'm not sure if that really was an alignment indicative dumbtell. I'd take it as that if LS would flip red, I'd lock Rels as town then. But - I do not know about LS' alignment, so yeah. Head and heart tell me though that Rels is town.
disformation feels to me like he is playing a weak town game. He doesn't dare to push people, although he picks stuff every now and then. I wish he'd actually push some people, drop some committed reads, instead of just staying in his comfort zone. He's either a townie afraid to appear bad or a scum guy playing a very soft, careful game. His D1 felt very townie to me, but I think he got away with my town read too easy. However he ended up voting the Palmar train and went through with that - I don't think scum!disformation would have the guts for such a bus. So I'll paint him green here, too.
VayneAuthority's activity level feels similar to what I learnt of him in other games. Town lean at this point, but not enough to paint him green in the PoE-kind-of-VCA I'm currently doing here. I paint him green because he was early on the Palmar wagon and did not leave at any point. This is not a 100% town read - but I want to simplify things.
boxerfred is town, I know that. Gonna add the colours..
Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Onegu
VayneAuthority (1): MoosyDoosy
nooniansong was scumread by me D1. I don't understand exactly why people like marv (?) started to townread him and I would really like to get an explanation on that from the guys who townread him. If he's scum, his vote was safe and sound on Zyrre. A solid no-risk-scum-play at D1.
darthfoley really dropped off in activity. At least that's how I feel like. I need to filter-dive here and I'm glad for anyone dropping reads on those two guys.
NocturneMage - can't drop a read, didn't look into yet. Gotta do this though to at least gain some impression. Only impression I have is from D1 where NM fought VA, and I'm not sure how to judge that.
Last, but not least:
MoosyDoosy. Voting outside both trains feels weird. But I think this is rather town indicative than scum indicative. The wagons were close, and the Zyrre lynch happened rather last minute. If he was scum with Palmar, I'm sure he'd have switched earlier - a last second switch would've put a bad light on him, especially given that there was no guarantee that Palmar would survive the night.
Onegu got replaced by LightningStrike. LS should step up now and do something for town. If he remains rather low activity and lurky, he should be lynched sooner or later. No way to have this guy in LYLO.
What do you guys think?
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On February 09 2016 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi's filter also makes me think kush is town.
Hm this is interesting since I located him in a rather scummy spot in my post above. Koshi was voting nooniansong D1, I didn't pay attention to this. So if Koshi flips red, we have nooniansong in a safe spot.
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On February 09 2016 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:Also bf you realized that I manged to get a bigger filter than Onegu did before he asked to replace out? I am quite sad that you didn't notice it
This is you ask for reads but don't drop too many yourself. Also, you're a null, not a scum for me  .
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On February 09 2016 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 22:45 boxerfred wrote:On February 09 2016 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:Also bf you realized that I manged to get a bigger filter than Onegu did before he asked to replace out? I am quite sad that you didn't notice it This is you ask for reads but don't drop too many yourself. Also, you're a null, not a scum for me . To be fair I still collecting my reads a little bit but I need a little bit of time and I wanted to make sure if for some reason the people I asked for their reads get NK'd I could take a look on who they thought was scum and see why they got killed too.
Calm down. I don't think you're the lynch today. I can see Koshi hanging though, or Chez.
I'm fine with both but wouldn't lynch outside of them.
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On February 09 2016 22:59 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 08:35 disformation wrote:Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Damdred, Koshi, justanothertownie, PalmarPalmar (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky, boxerfred, Damdredjustanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy nooniansoong (0): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels, boxerfredNocturneMage (0), disformation disformationritoky (0): boxerfred, Chezinu,Onegu (0):, nooniansoongDisformation (0): Chezinu, ChezinuMoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoonglock town: NM, Rels, Marv, Me town leans (kinda slight, but a lean is a lean): darth, boxer, noon, VA left: chez, koshi, md, ls ls can have a day to play. not sure about MD. chez and koshi look bad atm. will try to look over my leans and the ppl left b4 EoN.  That is basically as committed as I get. :p As you can see I agree on Koshi and Chez and there is no need for me to push either of them, especially since all my lock towns agree on that and I am pretty comfortable sheeping them. Also the point you made on Koshi's vote was already made by me, but got somewhat deflected by jat and marv. Need/Want to look at a bunch of filters this evening.
Yeah, this is good. I should've filtered you before my list post/vca there so at least you have my honest gut read on you :D
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On February 09 2016 22:59 NocturneMage wrote:
boxerfred, are you here? I have some questions. I'm in and out today as I look through a few things.
I'll be out just now but I'll be back before EoD. Have an appointment a 6pm, gonna be online at roughly 8pm or so.
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