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On February 07 2016 08:24 darthfoley wrote: oh oops, i meant to say... I thought he made a good point about how ritoky felt that the VA vs. NM argument was constructed, not that I felt that ritoky's argument was fake. Okay, so do you take anything further from this? | ||
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On February 07 2016 08:29 Koshi wrote: Damdred dieing is odd. Who would shoot him as mafia? Ritoky :p Medic dodgey? Worth looking if he had a mafia read others didn't share | ||
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On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote: Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument. Kill palmar and reevaluate There is nothing to suggest he should be town. Town needs to not tinfoil itself out of the obvious lynch today, even though 48h is a long time... | ||
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On February 07 2016 08:33 Koshi wrote: How the fuck is that a medic dodge? There is me, rels and you I'm not medic dodgey. And why rels or you over damdy? No reason | ||
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On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote: Is that your town list or your scum list? If it's a mafia list, chez is probably mafia because those names together make zero sense whatsoever | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:32 disformation wrote: Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled? I didn't find many reads in yo filter. Dunno. Some bf/chez/noon/va type list? I'd have to actually go read the game VA referenced me of his. He loves his nk analysis and I get the impression he's been maybe a little dismissive of the nk stuff Noon purely because he keeps saying dumb things about me | ||
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And I don't really regret the switch to Zyrre, I'd outlined my reasons for a long time and he was so meek and stilted, it's the kind of 'mistake' I'd make again I was very clear about what I might and might not do and I was always gonna be pretty absent this weekend | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:47 disformation wrote: He likes your case on palmar (without ever having a read on you). Flicks through palmar's filter. writes a 3 liner on palmar. writes a slightly better explanation on palmar b4 he leaves. Comes back switches to zyrre (who granted he also had a scumread on though I find that one dubious). So no I am not really seeing effort and time here. It's like you're trying to paint me in the worst possible light, it's kinda annoying. You find my read on Zyrre dubious? Why? I explained exactly why Jat (town lest we forget) totally agreed with the difference between the two Zyrre filters. Tldr: you're annoying | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:17 darthfoley wrote: Marv's Palmar progression + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2016 22:34 marvellosity wrote: jat: i don't have a particular opinion on Palmar On February 04 2016 23:00 marvellosity wrote: oh Palmar gave a longer/prettier answer. well boo On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Palmar *holds out hand* On February 06 2016 02:35 marvellosity wrote: okay, quick post before I go. Thoughts on the lynch: Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff. Zyrre - I wrote stuff already. But really I just want people to do this. I will make it easy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=Zyrre http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422313-newbie-mini-mafia-xlv?user=Zyrre His filter from this game, and his towngame in the newbie. Just read the first page of the newbie game. Just do it.. I find it very, very hard to believe these 2 filters are from the same alignment. The filters are just *so* *different*. I'm not even going to do any explanation. If you can't see it, stab yourself in the face for being terrible. For him to be town I'd have to believe he's just SOOOOO overawed by this game (I do not believe this for a moment, not to this extent). I think I trust jat. tbh if I didn't think I was coming back at all before deadline I'd place my vote on Zyrre right now. But I will leave it on Palmar for now and change it later as necessary. On February 06 2016 07:09 marvellosity wrote: I can't escape the socialising so I've not read anything. So many palmar votes and not so on Zyrre. I'm gonna vote Zyrre, he's my top % play. Palmer could well still be mafia but the votecount made me a little nervous and I really think Zyrre is mafia. Maybe palmar can have another day? unvote ##vote Zyrre I'm not going to be able to read ppls replies to this really so just do what you think is best. This is what I think is best for now and that's all I have control over. I agree that Marv was not invested in the Palmar lynch and was quite wishy washy for someone who apparently has the hard reads on him. "I think his absence is non-admissible... but it could come from either alignment... not totally sure though... oh yea btw if he comes back while i'm gone and says im scum, DONT LISTEN TO HIM (even though I just said his play could come from either alignment") If his lack of play could come from either alignment, it's false to say it's non-admissible. He also says that if he thought he wasn't going to come back before the deadline, he would vote for Zyrre, but that he's keeping his vote on Palmar and change it later if necessary. Except that a few paragraphs earlier he specifically told everyone not to drink the Palmar Kool-Aid and keep your vote on him. He then jumps on the "VC is making me nervous train at #1319" (I had commented on it at #1308) and switches to Zyrre. This progression/line of reasoning throughout is suspicious to me and i'm scum reading marv Get Zyrre ML D1 is easy, while knowing it will leave Palmar in an almost impossible hole to fight out of D2 given the rapid vote swing, guaranteeing another mislynch. This is making the rather terrific leap that palmar is town... | ||
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Everything I've done makes sense because it comes from a town perspective so it's easy for me to explain | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:22 darthfoley wrote: Okay, and he didn't case you There is still time  | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:30 darthfoley wrote: Yes, exactly. Town is generally about the percentages game, and you (marv) are good enough to play objectively. "Objectively I did the thing that was sub-optimal from Town pov and that makes me town" It's like your not reading? I left my vote on palmar because it seemed like a cool thing to do. I said Zyrre had the best chance of flipping mafia and I ended up voting for him. You're new so I forgive you not knowing my and palmars history. We get on very well (I talk to him the most out of anyone on tl mafia) but we love to needle each other in game. | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote: vayne, marv, palmar, x scum So you think I just randomly attacked 2 of my buddies in Va and palmar? Are you totally insane? | ||
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On February 08 2016 05:30 boxerfred wrote: Why wouldn't you do this as mafia? Puts great light on you. Because throwing palmar under the bus for no reason when I can easily protect him because various influential townies trust my read would be totally retarded? The fact you're making this argument make you look quite horrendous, honestly. | ||
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On February 08 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote: anytime you question marv about anything you are horrendous, on drugs, or scum. for good reason - anyone who thinks i could be mafia with Palmar just doesn't understand the game and the relations/interactions/influence i have on Palmar's lynchability. it really is as simple as that | ||
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