• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:20
CEST 02:20
KST 09:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League32Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.163Rollback Netcode in Brood War1295.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Rollback Netcode in Brood War Hands of Pluto Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10272 users

Star Wars: The Mafia Awaken - Page 7

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 14 Next All
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:24 GMT
#1604
If town caused one of those kills town should really collectively concede for being terrible, so let's pray it was the mafia role
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:25 GMT
#1606
On February 07 2016 08:24 darthfoley wrote:
oh oops, i meant to say...

I thought he made a good point about how ritoky felt that the VA vs. NM argument was constructed, not that I felt that ritoky's argument was fake.

Okay, so do you take anything further from this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:30 GMT
#1609
filters are your friend
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:31 GMT
#1611
On February 07 2016 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred dieing is odd. Who would shoot him as mafia?

Ritoky :p

Medic dodgey?

Worth looking if he had a mafia read others didn't share
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:33 GMT
#1614
On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote:
Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument.

Kill palmar and reevaluate

There is nothing to suggest he should be town. Town needs to not tinfoil itself out of the obvious lynch today, even though 48h is a long time...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2016 23:34 GMT
#1617
On February 07 2016 08:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 08:31 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2016 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred dieing is odd. Who would shoot him as mafia?

Ritoky :p

Medic dodgey?

Worth looking if he had a mafia read others didn't share

How the fuck is that a medic dodge? There is me, rels and you

I'm not medic dodgey. And why rels or you over damdy? No reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 13:25 GMT
#1665
On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 22:17 Chezinu wrote:
Marv
boxer
disformation

Is that your town list or your scum list?

If it's a mafia list, chez is probably mafia because those names together make zero sense whatsoever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 18:29 GMT
#1771
I'm saving my energy for potentially a grand ding dong with palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 18:39 GMT
#1780
On February 08 2016 03:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
I'm saving my energy for potentially a grand ding dong with palmar

Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled? I didn't find many reads in yo filter.

Dunno. Some bf/chez/noon/va type list? I'd have to actually go read the game VA referenced me of his. He loves his nk analysis and I get the impression he's been maybe a little dismissive of the nk stuff

Noon purely because he keeps saying dumb things about me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 18:44 GMT
#1786
I voted first on palmar which set the train rolling. Both jat and damdred trust my read on palmar and you can find that in their filters. Maybe there's others too. I pushed and explained my reasons several times.

And I don't really regret the switch to Zyrre, I'd outlined my reasons for a long time and he was so meek and stilted, it's the kind of 'mistake' I'd make again

I was very clear about what I might and might not do and I was always gonna be pretty absent this weekend
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 18:50 GMT
#1793
On February 08 2016 03:47 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 03:40 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 08 2016 03:40 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2016 03:37 NocturneMage wrote:
disformation -

You should be aware by now how invested JAT/marv were in the Palmar wagons. BY CONTRAST, Koshi was not as invested in the Zyrre wagon (amount of time/rationale). Am I making sense here? I'm going to use the first part of Rels' case to show you what I mean.

On February 08 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
This post got way bigger than I though, I'm trying my best to organize it.

I don't like Koshi at all, he might very well be scum. Here is why:

1
D1 the only real thing he did was pushing kush + opposing Palmar's lynch. That's it. No read on anyone else, especially Zyrre. Like, I think this is the only post about Zyrre in his filter:
On February 05 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons

It actually isn't. I can see him believe that. I can believe it.

Then:
On February 06 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Kush comming in and giving a townread on Palmar and rescind a townread on Zyrre is not doing things.

Well, he ended up voting Zurre with kush.

I don't think marv was invested at all.


at all?????

Are you not understanding what I mean by time and effort?

He likes your case on palmar (without ever having a read on you). Flicks through palmar's filter. writes a 3 liner on palmar. writes a slightly better explanation on palmar b4 he leaves.
Comes back switches to zyrre (who granted he also had a scumread on though I find that one dubious).
So no I am not really seeing effort and time here.

It's like you're trying to paint me in the worst possible light, it's kinda annoying. You find my read on Zyrre dubious? Why? I explained exactly why

Jat (town lest we forget) totally agreed with the difference between the two Zyrre filters.

Tldr: you're annoying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 19:18 GMT
#1802
My unconfident side says bf is likely town purely because im alive. If bf was mafia I'm a prime hit because no one else was suspecting him much
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 19:19 GMT
#1803
On February 08 2016 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
Marv's Palmar progression

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 04 2016 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
jat: i don't have a particular opinion on Palmar


On February 04 2016 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
oh Palmar gave a longer/prettier answer. well boo


On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.

Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.

##unvote
##Vote Palmar


*holds out hand*


On February 06 2016 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
okay, quick post before I go. Thoughts on the lynch:

Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.

Zyrre - I wrote stuff already. But really I just want people to do this. I will make it easy.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=Zyrre
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422313-newbie-mini-mafia-xlv?user=Zyrre

His filter from this game, and his towngame in the newbie. Just read the first page of the newbie game. Just do it.. I find it very, very hard to believe these 2 filters are from the same alignment. The filters are just *so* *different*. I'm not even going to do any explanation. If you can't see it, stab yourself in the face for being terrible. For him to be town I'd have to believe he's just SOOOOO overawed by this game (I do not believe this for a moment, not to this extent).

I think I trust jat.

tbh if I didn't think I was coming back at all before deadline I'd place my vote on Zyrre right now. But I will leave it on Palmar for now and change it later as necessary.


On February 06 2016 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
I can't escape the socialising so I've not read anything. So many palmar votes and not so on Zyrre. I'm gonna vote Zyrre, he's my top % play.

Palmer could well still be mafia but the votecount made me a little nervous and I really think Zyrre is mafia. Maybe palmar can have another day?

unvote
##vote Zyrre


I'm not going to be able to read ppls replies to this really so just do what you think is best. This is what I think is best for now and that's all I have control over.



I agree that Marv was not invested in the Palmar lynch and was quite wishy washy for someone who apparently has the hard reads on him.

"I think his absence is non-admissible... but it could come from either alignment... not totally sure though... oh yea btw if he comes back while i'm gone and says im scum, DONT LISTEN TO HIM (even though I just said his play could come from either alignment") If his lack of play could come from either alignment, it's false to say it's non-admissible.

He also says that if he thought he wasn't going to come back before the deadline, he would vote for Zyrre, but that he's keeping his vote on Palmar and change it later if necessary. Except that a few paragraphs earlier he specifically told everyone not to drink the Palmar Kool-Aid and keep your vote on him.

He then jumps on the "VC is making me nervous train at #1319" (I had commented on it at #1308) and switches to Zyrre. This progression/line of reasoning throughout is suspicious to me and i'm scum reading marv

Get Zyrre ML D1 is easy, while knowing it will leave Palmar in an almost impossible hole to fight out of D2 given the rapid vote swing, guaranteeing another mislynch.

This is making the rather terrific leap that palmar is town...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 19:21 GMT
#1805
Terrible post darth. You somehow glossed over the explanation that palmar would know or at least think I'm town, so if he cases me its to destabilise and it's fake. This is pretty easy to follow
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 19:23 GMT
#1807
I also said objectively I thought Zyrre had the highest chance to flip mafia even while leaving my vote on palmar

Everything I've done makes sense because it comes from a town perspective so it's easy for me to explain
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 19:23 GMT
#1808
On February 08 2016 04:22 darthfoley wrote:
Okay, and he didn't case you

There is still time
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 20:02 GMT
#1816
On February 08 2016 04:30 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 04:27 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 08 2016 04:23 marvellosity wrote:
I also said objectively I thought Zyrre had the highest chance to flip mafia even while leaving my vote on palmar

Everything I've done makes sense because it comes from a town perspective so it's easy for me to explain

I'm curious why you didn't leave your vote on the player you thought has the highest chance of flipping scum.


Yes, exactly. Town is generally about the percentages game, and you (marv) are good enough to play objectively.

"Objectively I did the thing that was sub-optimal from Town pov and that makes me town"

It's like your not reading? I left my vote on palmar because it seemed like a cool thing to do.

I said Zyrre had the best chance of flipping mafia and I ended up voting for him.

You're new so I forgive you not knowing my and palmars history. We get on very well (I talk to him the most out of anyone on tl mafia) but we love to needle each other in game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 20:03 GMT
#1817
On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum

So you think I just randomly attacked 2 of my buddies in Va and palmar? Are you totally insane?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 21:35 GMT
#1831
On February 08 2016 05:30 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum

So you think I just randomly attacked 2 of my buddies in Va and palmar? Are you totally insane?

Why wouldn't you do this as mafia? Puts great light on you.

Because throwing palmar under the bus for no reason when I can easily protect him because various influential townies trust my read would be totally retarded?

The fact you're making this argument make you look quite horrendous, honestly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2016 22:06 GMT
#1840
On February 08 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote:
anytime you question marv about anything you are horrendous, on drugs, or scum.

for good reason - anyone who thinks i could be mafia with Palmar just doesn't understand the game and the relations/interactions/influence i have on Palmar's lynchability. it really is as simple as that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
Continental Nation League S1
CranKy Ducklings77
Liquipedia
BSL Open Qualifier
04:00
Pro & Gosu - Last Chance #2
ZZZero.O129
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason66
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2305
GuemChi 2188
Shuttle 657
Artosis 623
ProTech149
ZZZero.O 129
yabsab 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever478
NeuroSwarm168
League of Legends
Reynor71
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1212
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox395
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu880
Other Games
summit1g6353
FrodaN1689
JimRising 516
C9.Mang0370
PiGStarcraft234
Maynarde121
KnowMe115
ToD87
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1022
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki32
• Pr0nogo 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1007
Other Games
• imaqtpie1287
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
10h 40m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 10h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.