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On February 06 2016 03:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Can people in the policy lynch category or advocating policy lynches explain why they are opting for the policy lynch over Palmar? (Koshi excepted, since he already did).
Noon, having played in NSM18 and you tried to pull the same thing on Onegu, can you at least state where you'd put your vote or if I had to give you a hammer who you would hammer for a scum lynch?
Koshi isn't policy lynching. You can lynch kush for policy or because this fits his scummeta better than his townmeta.
Pure policy lynches would be Chezinu, Onegu and Moosy.
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On February 06 2016 03:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 03:43 disformation wrote:On February 06 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 03:36 disformation wrote:On February 06 2016 03:30 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 03:03 NocturneMage wrote:On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush. This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash. How are you sure that Palmar can't replicate this as scum? And what are your thoughts on marv's point about him not having direction? The reason I ask you this is from what I previously read, marv/JAT, you seemed to be in a lot of conversation at times, together. So I think you are in a best position to evaluate this. I am not sure. If Palmar didn't omgus JAT and then left I wouldn't even consider him as possible mafia. Palmar as town can be shit and 100% afk. I have played more than enough times with Palmar to know this. If we vote Palmar and he flips town we just lost an important player for nothing. And I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened. Pure coin flip lynch and results can be disastrous. But if people want to do it I am not opposing the lynch vocally. This. Can we 100% lynch NM D2, if Palmar flips town? You can 100% lynch me D3, if NM flips town. Even though that would mean giving scum 3 ML. xD No, we can 100 % see day2 who we want to lynch day2 and there won't be any stupid bargains like this. If you are suddenly so convinced then make a conclusive case on NM. [1] Says he doesn't like meta and that he tries to find other evidence for alignment.
[2] Makes meta case on Palmar saying Palmar could be scum. Based on games NM didn't even play in.
[3] Ignores meta evidence that say Palmar could be lazy town.
[4] Votes Palmar after Palmar has got a decent chunk of votes.
[5] Doesn't answer my questions but tries to deflect me by asking me about VA.
[1] Not scummy. [2] Not scummy. [3] Not sure what kind of evidence you are talking about or how NM "ignored" it. [4] Not scummy. [5] Needs a more detailed explanation. Yes. [1] is not AI alone. But combined with [2] it is. Why would he make a case he can not believe in. [4]: He could easily have voted earlier if he thinks Palmar is scum. Not leave his option open sitting on a list of four ppl. [5]: + Show Spoiler +On February 06 2016 02:57 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 02:50 disformation wrote:
And why didnt you vote Palmar before? Waiting for the thread consent? I started at 3am CET, I crashed somewhere between 8/8:30. This is day 1. And if you look at the votes, consolidation on day 1 is a mess. If you're town you want to consolidate. If I - or others - can come up with preferred lynches based on things I feel make them mafia, be it meta (yes it can be used properly, I didn't ignore your post), or be it lack of direction (see marv's last post), then I don't see what the problem is. People also had trouble understanding my previous arguments against VA, so I re-presented it ignoring myself (bias). I feel there's adequate cause for being scummy. That said, I want to ask you disformation, why you are not asking this same question of VA. He has said dick all prior to my "why Palmar could be mafia post". (Yes I realise I'm voting WITH him on Palmar, but that's besides the point, other townreads are doing so, and we can see based on the flip what is going on. I am confident in a red flip and then we can evaluate the context of how people got there.) Will look at some of Palmar's filter and try to come back with opinions on [3] again.
[1][2] Why would he do something so blatantly contradictory as mafia? What's the scum motivation? Nah, this is not scummy.
[4] So what? I often wait until the last minute to place my vote even if I voiced suspicions earlier. That's not scummy.
[5] I don't get it. This is just a disguised [4].
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Palmar and Kush being the 2 wagons is very good for now.
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On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta?
I think the mentioned cases are strong enough without meta but what exactly is your problem with the meta part of it?
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On February 06 2016 04:11 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta? I think the mentioned cases are strong enough without meta but what exactly is your problem with the meta part of it? One that probably no one gets, since I mentioned it a few times by now.
No. What I heard from you is that you liked what marv had to say about Palmar which is why we are lynching him. So I ask you what your problem with that is all of a sudden?
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On February 06 2016 04:20 boxerfred wrote:
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv
Feel free to do this but we are not lynching marv today.
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On February 06 2016 04:29 NocturneMage wrote:
Like I'm sorry you are sick, don't get me wrong, but...I just....ugh.
Classical Onegu. What did you expect?
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On February 06 2016 04:23 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 04:11 disformation wrote:On February 06 2016 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta? I think the mentioned cases are strong enough without meta but what exactly is your problem with the meta part of it? One that probably no one gets, since I mentioned it a few times by now. No. What I heard from you is that you liked what marv had to say about Palmar which is why we are lynching him. So I ask you what your problem with that is all of a sudden? okay let me try to explain my thought process here: 1) marv has a decent reason why palmar is scum. 2) nm has a bad reason why palmar is scum + I think NM is scum for that. One of these two is apparently wrong. Unless both are right and both Palmar and NM are scum bussing for the lulz, which is highly unlikely. As a bonus I share koshi's notion about lynching Palmar D1. On the other hand: where the flower has palmar been all day.
Associative reads without any flips are bad. NM could bus as you said yourself. Someone having a bad reason to scumread another player does not make that player town. Also you did not show why what NM said would be a bad reason. Your problem was that the kind of reason he had in general which is completely unrelated to Palmars alignment.
Marv can read Palmar better than anyone else on this site.
On February 06 2016 04:26 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:20 boxerfred wrote:
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv marv: probably town. Don't think he would play this much as scum + I sheep damdy's tr on him. palmar: I like marvs points, I don't like nm's points. His filter doesn't make me hard, it isn't garbage either. noon: Uh. I am super prone to scum reading him when he is town and I do not know how his scum game. Really do not like him flailing about atm, though.
What's with the constant mentioning of damdred who isn't pushing anything at all? Is he that strong of a townread for you?
On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.
Sure. But he is also the guy everyone wants to push in this situation if he is scum.
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On February 06 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.
##Vote JAT Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you. /discuss I feel that this kind of post is very hard to make for scum.
It isn't.
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On February 06 2016 04:56 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.
##Vote JAT Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you. /discuss I feel that this kind of post is very hard to make for scum. What I meant by that was that people who are of either alignment can post RL excuses. He's not been in thread, so he won't have reads. Are you seeing something I am not? The pathetic part of the quote was a bit harsh on my end, I concede that.
No, it wasn't. That's exactly what it is: pathetic. He is putting his vote on me because he doesn't like me as a person. I seriously hope he replaces out like he should if he is so sick that this is everything he can do.
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On February 06 2016 04:58 Zyrre wrote:
I really have no idea about noon, but at least he has posted some reads and is posting now. Rather neutral at the moment.
I obviously dont know about Palmers meta, but I feel like his early statement:
"This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever."
Seems like possible scum play. He has posted almost no suspicions, and if he doesnt townread anyone he can always jump on votes for whoever is getting lynched atm.
Really bad post. Feels like you are scrambling to find your "own" reason to scumread him so you can join the wagon while it would be perfectly enough to just blatantly sheep.
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On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself.
Why would he? There is exactly 1 vote on him.
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On February 06 2016 05:06 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself. Why would he? There is exactly 1 vote on him. it doesn't seem like palmar, zyrre are shaping up to be the two wagons to you?
No. To me it seems like YOU and Palmar will be the 2 wagons. Although Zyrre wouldn't be a bad lynch either in case something changes my mind about Palmar.
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On February 06 2016 05:09 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 05:08 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 nooniansoong wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself. Why would he? There is exactly 1 vote on him. it doesn't seem like palmar, zyrre are shaping up to be the two wagons to you? No. To me it seems like YOU and Palmar will be the 2 wagons. Although Zyrre wouldn't be a bad lynch either in case something changes my mind about Palmar. you just don't like me for ideological reasons.
Nope. I just agree that your play this game is far closer to your scum than to your town meta and have no problem sheeping Koshi when he is this convinced.
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On February 06 2016 05:10 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 05:08 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 nooniansoong wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself. Why would he? There is exactly 1 vote on him. it doesn't seem like palmar, zyrre are shaping up to be the two wagons to you? No. To me it seems like YOU and Palmar will be the 2 wagons. Although Zyrre wouldn't be a bad lynch either in case something changes my mind about Palmar. Why exactly Palmar? In your own words, please don't give me a "marv said blah"
I made several posts about that in "my own words". I made posts about Palmar being scummy before marv did anything in that regard. Read the goddamn game.
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On February 06 2016 05:12 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 05:11 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:10 boxerfred wrote:On February 06 2016 05:08 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 nooniansoong wrote:On February 06 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 05:04 nooniansoong wrote:
ya there is a lack of honestly in zyrre's post about how he needs to vote palmar to save himself. Why would he? There is exactly 1 vote on him. it doesn't seem like palmar, zyrre are shaping up to be the two wagons to you? No. To me it seems like YOU and Palmar will be the 2 wagons. Although Zyrre wouldn't be a bad lynch either in case something changes my mind about Palmar. Why exactly Palmar? In your own words, please don't give me a "marv said blah" I made several posts about that in "my own words". I made posts about Palmar being scummy before marv did anything in that regard. Read the goddamn game. I did, that's I say "exactly". Basically I want to know why you lynch Palmar over Kush in like 3 sentences.
And why? Do you think I am mafia or what? It's all in my filter and I don't really care to repeat myself any more than I already did.
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On February 06 2016 05:15 boxerfred wrote:
a. lynch the player who contributed nothing, doesn't even attempt a decent defence, looks scummy af but doesn't give a fuck
b. lynch the player who is afk but known to be a decent townie, who had a good and townie looking start
I can't understand why you all go for Palmar over nooniansong. I'm out. I'm cop. Bye.
a. all true and fine but there is a chance that Kush does this as town
b. how wrong can you say something? Palmar did NOT have a good and townie looking start. The opposite is true and that combined with the fact that like you said he is known to be a decent townie is a very good reason to lynch him.
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On February 06 2016 05:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 05:13 disformation wrote:On February 06 2016 05:12 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2016 04:56 nooniansoong wrote:
dunno why people compare rels to rayn. rels is way cooler and isn't as mean or annoying. how he got coached by me and 1gu and developed into who he is now is one of the great enigmas of the universe. yo, ritoky what are your thoughts on the current wagons? i am content with marvs case on palmar, and palmar's lack of thread presence + clear indication of target or person he plans to sheep is an okay reason to lynch him. noon is probably town for reasons i am not allowed to speak about yet. i am kinda considering a koshi lynch tbh, he doesn't scream town. plus he left saying he "100% disagrees with the lynch" while doing nothing koshi-like to fight it. that's super hipster of him, and town koshi burns with passion, isn't a hipster.
Koshi IS a hipster. Usually burning with passion - that's true - but still a hipster. There has been enough passion before he had to leave. THe stuff he posted since I called him out was tonally fine. We are not lynching him.
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On February 06 2016 05:22 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. jat you dont think this case is necessarily townie?
No. What a weird question.
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On February 06 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Is it just me or did a bunch of ppl gtfo of the thread as soon as Palmar hit a lot votes? -.-
For example? And what does this tell you if true?
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