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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 13:48 GMT
#937
On February 05 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:
Let's all join the dark side together and just murder some people for fun. Small villages. around 1 million souls could suffice.

I like this plan selfish jeezus.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 13:51 GMT
#940
On February 05 2016 22:49 boxerfred wrote:
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now.

A little over the top, don't you think?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 13:58 GMT
#947
Really don't know what to make of this tbh.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 14:10 GMT
#951
On February 05 2016 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Really don't know what to make of this tbh.

dunno why you didn't comment on the stuf i already said on him tbh.

Which stuff? The 2 posts since he started the raging/complaining?

I don't have to post "Agreed" under everything, right? There is nothing else to say here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 14:18 GMT
#958
On February 05 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?page=45#896

Ah, I remember now. My reaction to this was basically "meh, maybe?" regarding the thought process but it didn't really lead me to any conclusion about his alignment.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 14:21 GMT
#961
On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
I should elaborate. Just had a cigarette, calmed down a bit.


Basically, the way Chezinu and Moosy approach this game pisses me off. Given that nooniansong also seems to not give a fuck makes me re-think if I really want to put in the (little) time I already have in those games. I signed up for this game to have fun and participate a lot. Contrary to my latest games, I've fully read the thread despite rolling town which I normally do not like that much. I tend to not put any effort into the game if I am town, instead I go really low and don't watch the thread too closely. I do not have a problem with low activity players but I do have a problem with people that just screw up the thread. I can't believe that all four of Onegu, Chezinu, MoosyDoosy and nooniansong are mafia. However, Chezinu's and MD's posting styles make it really hard for me to stay calm and analyze shit. My case on ritoky might've not been the best one, but it was solid. The kind of one-liner conversation that we mainly had in the last 25 pages is something that I think does not bring town on a good way to find scum.

So, to stay constructive, I'd even refrain from my ritoky case now and leave it standing. People can bring that up later in the game. I strongly recommend to lynch between Chezinu, nooniansong, MoosyDoosy and Onegu, and I'd actually add Koshi to that list since I have the impression that he doesn't do much for town.

Among those four (five) players, nooniansong is the obvious lynch target. Bad defence, no contribution for town. Same goes for Moosy and Chez, those guys even derail the thread into plain bullshit. Onegue, while being sick (which I believe), is someone who I can hardly read anyways. MoosyDoosy has his dumbtell of 3 vs. 4 mafia going for him, can't see this guy actually pulling this play as scum. So there's Chezinu and nooniansong left. Well, nooniansong should IMHO, if he's town, indeed replace the fuck out of this game, while I don't feel that Chez will be usefull anytime soon.

Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't read 42+.

I don't understand. Why is chez not worth a vig shot exactly? Why should we lynch NM?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 14:23 GMT
#964
On February 05 2016 23:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
SENSE NOT MAKES NO

-Sense it makes none-

dafuq is "sense not makes no"

are you a potato?

Well, he most certaintly isn't a jedi master. That grammar is appalling.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 14:24 GMT
#966
On February 05 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.


If you think we very likely have a mafia between 2 people, why would you want to lynch outside that basically on policy?

I'm not lynching nooniansong on policy, I'm saying we lynch him due to his bad defences and his idgaf approach which makes me think he's the scum guy in the four guys I initially mentioned. Regarding NM and VA, I have no idea who of them is the scum one. If we lynch between them, we should shoot the other guy if the lynch flips town. I'm describing scenarios, I have not decided yet (or did you see a ##vote nooniansong somewhere?) stop nagging on me and instead get to the content on my psots, or just vote me and shut the fuck up

Could you please explain in your own words why you think there is a mafia between NM and VA?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 16:18 GMT
#1025
On February 06 2016 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
also @ kush/marv anyone non retarded here -

What do you make of this random NM/VA = 1 scum thing thats developed and we have to shoot/lynch us or w/e?

stupidest thing ive ever read in my life, scummy or morons?

Pretty stupid. "There has to be one mafia between..." arguments tend to be bullshit with very few exceptions.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 16:20 GMT
#1027
On February 06 2016 00:50 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I am a bit surprised how easily ppl are voting Palmar, mainly over a meta read from a person who does not believe in meta. I like marvs explanation for his palmar vote a lot more, but I am not sure if I want to sheep marv.
Though damdy seems inclined to believe marvs assessment of Palmar and I like sheeping damdy.

You could also sheep me. I was the first one to really attack palmar after all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 17:33 GMT
#1046
On February 06 2016 02:15 darthfoley wrote:
I'm most confident in voting Zyrre right now.

##Vote: Zyrre


Can someone tell me why Palmar is being scum read by some of the more experienced players? Is it simply because he hasn't been as bossy?

tldr: Palmar posted stuff that town Palmar most likely would not post and that leads nowhere. Palmar had 0 impact on anything while still being around for a while. Had some dominant town performances lately where he confidently pushed what he believed - nothing to be seen this game despite a promise to do shit later on.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:10 GMT
#1066
On February 06 2016 02:47 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 01:09 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2016 01:01 nooniansoong wrote:
nvm im towning zyrre.

On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.

I don't see him being the type of player to say this as scum.


Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though.

organic nuanced reads here

are you on drugs?

this entire post is nonsense

1 I don't expect zyrre to roll scum, then start thinking up mindgamey things to say about how great it feels to be town. Someone like ritoky would do this, someone liek zyrre wouldn't.

2 HIs read of ritoky is changing as he is reading. He's thinking deep about NM's argument. Guaranteed town.


This is one of the reasons Zyrre should be in the 50/50 or "leave it to inv" category.

The other reason he should also be in the 50/50 category is that there is soemthing in his "shitty" post that everyone is going on about. Yes, it's bad. Yes, marvellosity has drawn a comparison between the 2010 post and this one. But there's one thing that is worthy of consideration and that's lack of time.

First sentence in Zyrre's post mentions he was (paraphrasing) pressed for time to play. The town perspective here is that if someone doesn't have much time to play their reads are not going to be so good - in fact their reads are not going to be good as either alignment, really - and whatever sticks out to them sticks out to them as they are reading.

The "game is hard" argument (subsequent post) has been used by people from both alignments, and quite frankly he's not the only one to have said this.

I still want to engage him if he's around through end of cycle. If he should be mafia, and he gets lynched (seeing as he's likely to be a competing wagon), we get possible information on his partners.

If people aren't voting Koshi or VA, then Palmar is the way to go today.

Again, as I skimmed through, whoever mentioned the lazy argument in his favour I'm not buying it. As I said for Moosy Doosy laziness/not playing is a meta/behaviour/whatever phrasing you want to use that is easily replicated.

Also having played Dark Tournament, I understand Palmar is not a player who plays or is active on weekends. This is not alignment indicative - judge him on the output so far.

And as such I'm voting him.

Koshi will not be lynched today.
I doubt VA will be lynched. I would need a pretty convincing case to seriously consider lynching him over some other dudes.

A vote on Palmar is a vote well placed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:14 GMT
#1069
On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT.

I know. I just wanted to emphasize this once again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:25 GMT
#1071
On February 06 2016 03:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 03:13 NocturneMage wrote:
Which is exactly what I did JAT.

I know. I just wanted to emphasize this once again.

I do not want to vote with NM.

I don't care. Palmar is the leading wagon. You will either have to convince me why NM is mafia or why you think Palmar is town. This is a copout.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:32 GMT
#1077
On February 06 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
lynch onegu

You are aware that you are a way better policy lynch than Onegu, right?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:33 GMT
#1079
On February 06 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote:
I'm gonna step up and be a town leader here. Guys, we need to lynch Onegu. He needs to get lynched. Everyone join my wagon immediately so we can get a claim.

Not going to happen.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:36 GMT
#1082
On February 06 2016 03:36 nooniansoong wrote:
How am I a better plynch than Onegu???? like I'm probably the worst plynch out of all the people who are good plynches.

lol
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:39 GMT
#1084
On February 06 2016 03:36 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 03:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2016 03:03 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law

VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush.
This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash.


How are you sure that Palmar can't replicate this as scum?

And what are your thoughts on marv's point about him not having direction?

The reason I ask you this is from what I previously read, marv/JAT, you seemed to be in a lot of conversation at times, together. So I think you are in a best position to evaluate this.

I am not sure. If Palmar didn't omgus JAT and then left I wouldn't even consider him as possible mafia. Palmar as town can be shit and 100% afk. I have played more than enough times with Palmar to know this.

If we vote Palmar and he flips town we just lost an important player for nothing. And I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened. Pure coin flip lynch and results can be disastrous.

But if people want to do it I am not opposing the lynch vocally.

This.
Can we 100% lynch NM D2, if Palmar flips town?
You can 100% lynch me D3, if NM flips town.
Even though that would mean giving scum 3 ML. xD

No, we can 100 % see day2 who we want to lynch day2 and there won't be any stupid bargains like this.

If you are suddenly so convinced then make a conclusive case on NM.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:46 GMT
#1087
On February 06 2016 03:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 03:36 disformation wrote:
On February 06 2016 03:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2016 03:03 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law

VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush.
This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash.


How are you sure that Palmar can't replicate this as scum?

And what are your thoughts on marv's point about him not having direction?

The reason I ask you this is from what I previously read, marv/JAT, you seemed to be in a lot of conversation at times, together. So I think you are in a best position to evaluate this.

I am not sure. If Palmar didn't omgus JAT and then left I wouldn't even consider him as possible mafia. Palmar as town can be shit and 100% afk. I have played more than enough times with Palmar to know this.

If we vote Palmar and he flips town we just lost an important player for nothing. And I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened. Pure coin flip lynch and results can be disastrous.

But if people want to do it I am not opposing the lynch vocally.

This.
Can we 100% lynch NM D2, if Palmar flips town?
You can 100% lynch me D3, if NM flips town.
Even though that would mean giving scum 3 ML. xD

No, we can 100 % see day2 who we want to lynch day2 and there won't be any stupid bargains like this.

If you are suddenly so convinced then make a conclusive case on NM.

    [1] Says he doesn't like meta and that he tries to find other evidence for alignment.
    [2] Makes meta case on Palmar saying Palmar could be scum. Based on games NM didn't even play in.
    [3] Ignores meta evidence that say Palmar could be lazy town.
    [4] Votes Palmar after Palmar has got a decent chunk of votes.
    [5] Doesn't answer my questions but tries to deflect me by asking me about VA.

[1] Not scummy.
[2] Not scummy.
[3] Not sure what kind of evidence you are talking about or how NM "ignored" it.
[4] Not scummy.
[5] Needs a more detailed explanation.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
February 05 2016 18:51 GMT
#1093
On February 06 2016 03:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
VE has been lynched 26 times, Vivax and Palmar have been lynched 24 times.

This doesn't proof anything but something funny I saw in database. Just proof that Palmar is also shit as town.

Nobody denies that Palmar can be shit as town.
But he usually only is shit by not being around at all. Here he was around and posted. If marv - the guy who always prides himself on being the best at reading Palmar - tells you Palmar is a good lynch then that should tell you something.
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