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On February 05 2016 13:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 12:07 darthfoley wrote:On February 05 2016 11:38 NocturneMage wrote:Reading more filters.... On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade
I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?
This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.
@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach. On February 05 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
Idk I find it perhaps a little suspect that bf (kinda), ritoky and damdred have all defended me already, using variations of the experience card to help me. I especially find it ironic, because if I were to use the defense, I would be immediately scum read. I think i'm a fairly obvious pocket opportunity for experienced mafia, so i'm particularly wary when a bunch of vets start defending me off the bat from rather average pokes by Rels. It just seems off.
Darth, do you have an actual read on Rels? Yea i'm town reading Rels right now. I think that he has been quite pro-active, probing to make people flesh out their reads more. I was kind of annoyed with him for his pressure on me, but I think it came from town POV who was looking to pressure, what he considered, a scummy entrance. no offense but i don't really want to know your town reads. tell me who is potentially mafia and why.
no offense but NM asked me for my read on Rels, so I gave it to him.
I'm currently scum reading Koshi, Zyrre, and a tiny bit of VA.
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For the time being I am cannot read Chezinu or moosy because lol, and I defer Palmar reads to people that know him better.
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Koshi (disclaimer: I'm teetering for sleep, so I'm going to make this short for now)
Disclaimer: I'm reading Nutcracker, a few of his other games, same base issue as the issues with Palmar. I'll flesh this a bit more fully out....when I wake up.
With respect to this game, the two things that stand out:
(1) His progression on ritoky
On February 05 2016 03:26 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:37 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 18:40 boxerfred wrote:
"I am gonna lynch you even if you're town"? "I am going to ignore your post because I just made up a bad reasoning on why they suck"?
This sentence I can agree with. Also for the amount of posts ritoky made I don't know about him yet. Which is odd. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:03 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 ritoky wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit says the guy who "gives up after 50 words" But your posts are so boring :/ Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:20 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:17 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Also bf sort of doesn't really sound like mafia.
I find it weird that he would go after the entirety of ritoky's post, it's a massive stretch, but I guess there's not really much that has happened in the game, so maybe stretches are the best he's got. He's at least actually trying to do something.
I like that he actually is keeping the pressure on ritoky despite some pushback, this last post about ritoky just rehashing the information sounds like genuinely believes that he has something there. Could you then, instead of looking at me, look at ritoky and review my case? Just wait in the shadows bro. I don't think Ritoky is the lynch here. So here's what is weird about Koshi. He's not elaborating initially on why he can't make a read on ritoky then he responds to ritoky that his posts are boring. (Generally that's a scummy trait - not to mention I disagree with Koshi's conclusion, because ritoky has been anything but boring, trying to push the discussion forward especially early this cycle.) At this point he should be scumreading (or at best nullreading - but the basis is extremely unclear) ritoky. In his filter and in this exchange (bf/ritoky) he tells ritoky's biggest pusher to "wait in the shadows"? And saying that ritoky "isn't the lynch"? where did that come from? This is the opposite of what I'd expect from someone who isn't impressed with ritoky - if someone is scumreading someone you are ambiguous on, where is the thought process coming from at the very least to say "wait in the shadows" when he's townreading bf (post 394). Nor is he even making any effort to figure out ritoky's alignment. It's just odd at best for someone who I understand is normally keen to solve the game or try. Like if I had to take that train of thought on ritoky alone I'd say it's hedging which is scummy. There's clearly evidence to the contrary, others have made reads on him both ways, including bf at latest.
On February 05 2016 03:56 Koshi wrote:
Pretty long winded way to ask my read on ritoky. But I forgive you: Could lynch, but not today.
Response is of a double standard (why is bf town when he did the same thing) and long windedness isn't necessarily scum. Also I think it was JAT who mentioned meta. but I'm using his action in the game here to scumread him. Irrespective of what I think he "should" do, the quotes and responses stand on their own.
(2) and on Damdred
On February 05 2016 02:57 Koshi wrote:
ritoky is Damdred mafia?
On February 05 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Damdred his posts have been really bad. Holy mozes.
Not even considering meta, this alone, there's no followup. There's no effort or response or a further push from this.
Separately, I get the opposite impression here on Damdred but that aside, another observation is that I'm not seeing anyone else scumread Damdred AFAIK. Not my townreads, not really anyone else. At least not that I'm remembering.
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Alright, I'm crashing. Lynch list excluding policy reads as of now: Koshi/VA/Palmar/Zyrre, the latter being more of a compromise with a possible adjustment for expectations (see my post).
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Ok so. Last 4-5 pages have been dumb and NM. Ignored it all.
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On February 05 2016 17:44 Koshi wrote:
Ok so. Last 4-5 pages have been dumb and NM. Ignored it all.
So, your conclusion?
Aren't dumb things supposed to be ignored?
Still disappointed with his Koshi case btw. he didn't really clarify anything.
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Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.
Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.
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I thought he was obvious town till I saw a vote count and saw him voting you. That was bad. I am not sure he is mafia though. I don't want to lynch him today I think.
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Like.... This reminds me of the Palmar before somebody put him in rank 1 for some reason.
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Why did you think he was obvious town? Just the absence or the scumtell or...?
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On February 05 2016 08:02 Zyrre wrote:
Went to bed shortly after the start, long day at work, and now back after reading the thread. I'm off work tomorrow so will try to post more before the lynch.
Some reads:
ritoky
leaning scum from bf's reasoning and his defense.
Just saying that posts are bad doesn't seem very productive, and saying he will lynch him quite early no matter if he is town or mafia. Says he wants to teach people by being "informed otherwise or punished for them". So due to his own reasoning he can just inform them and move on, but in this case he wanted to stop reading his posts and lynch him.
Claimed bf was doing nothing else than tunneling him, see below what bf was doing otherwise.
boxerfred
leaning town
Posted his read list of 6 people other than ritoky
Asking koshi to post scumreads rather then townreads
Calls out JAT for doing what he himself was arguing against(saying who was calling who scum, instead of the reasoning behind it)
damdred
slight scumlean
Some activity but only asking what others think and this "I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness." with no real followup
noonian
biggest scum read right now, at the moment would probably vote for him
Saying he will not care about this game even if he lives
Says if he was scum he would be playing like he is doing right now
"There are probably people who have put less effort than even me into this game. You might want to lynch them instead of me. " -- literally zero reads posted
Scum.
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I see Palmar being mentioned in interesting tones this page. Looking forward to reading :>
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On February 05 2016 19:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Why did you think he was obvious town? Just the absence or the scumtell or...?
Activity + how he played. As mafia he tends to pop in and not have a real story behind his game. But there is constant not really activity but activity. As town he is either completely useless but the story fits, or afk.
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Or for some reason he was actually pretty good in the intriguing game. I was also surprised. Probably a couple more games I can't remember.
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that zhyrre post was a bit gross huh
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On February 05 2016 14:53 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.
moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.
Ehats wrong with that team if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells.
No this is actually genius. Moosy is very likely town.
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I think I agreed with everything Damdred said this game. The only thing in which we disagree that comes to mind is the darth stuff, and I don't want to lynch darth anymore. Damdred is very likely town.
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On February 05 2016 11:35 justanothertownie wrote:
I think atm you are doing what HTS does when she is mafia, NM - directionless rambling.
I like this as a point. Partly because I've kinda glaze-skimmed a lot of NM's posts myself because dull
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On February 05 2016 13:56 NocturneMage wrote:
marvellosity
aww, disarmed 
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