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Alright, cranking out the list post in pieces.
ATM do not lynch list/town list (explanations if it's not already in my filter)
JAT
Damdred
darthfoley (getting town feels from the filter)
disformation (the host thing, lazy on my part, I know, even that aside, just different feels from Dark Tournament)
ritoky
boxerfred
marvellosity
Pure Policy
Onegu (no read on him either way)
MoosyDoosy (prior to the town read game - trolling is meh, much has been made of him possibly WIFOMing as scum. town meta is easily replicable as scum)
Chezinu
Chezinu - No idea how to read this guy just reading his filter. Never played with him. I get the "I don't give a fuck" vibe from him, and no one is scumreading him as I recall or screaming for his lynch, and I figure there must be a reason for that in this group of collectively experienced players. If this guy is mafia, I'm probably going to get there by process of elimination.
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On February 05 2016 14:18 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 14:13 ritoky wrote:On February 05 2016 14:11 Chezinu wrote:
Lols I randomly copy pasted names. why this approach over just picking the other people playing? cause you said I no intellectual.
rekt by myself.
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moosy, if NM takes someone else, and i take disfo still. are you taking me or damdred still?
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On February 05 2016 14:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
(1) You leap into game using convoluted af reasoning to explain shizz which is NM style of play. But tone read seems genuine which means ur trying to solve game. So town.
(2) At this point, there is a small group of people I don't try to read due to heavy bias. One of them is Damdred.
Seeing as ritoky picked disformation and Rels as townreads, I'm going to ask you this next question.
Both disformation and Rels have both scumread me at points for not being able to follow my train of thought.
What does this make you think of them?
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Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game:
Chezinu
Palmar
nooniansoong
Zyrre
Interesting picks I must say.
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Guys moosey dumb yelled himself town.
life is easier
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Gut call - leave it to the investigative roles
Nooniansoong - I can't be sure. The policy lynching isn't outside of his town play (reference Newbie 18), post 664 and 716 give me competing reasons for both alignments. 664, he's drawn attention to himself as scum, 716 appears to me he's finding a way to avoid being scumread or some worry of his appearance. I understand the sentiment for policy, not playing but game, but I'd policy lynch only as a last resort. Key emphasis on last resort.
A few things here would help me resolve his alignment
Zyrre - alright, I'm under the impression he's relatively new but I don't know for certain. I think someone mentioned this earlier but with the exception of VA/myself, he's largely ignored some of the other things going on. ritoky scumread ignores his early game for example. I am - and so have others - issues with Palmar. The point on Damdred seems like it's just there (posting just to post), isolated amongst his complete gameplay.
If he can talk about Palmar, Koshi or any of the other players not mentioned, it might help me get a better feel for him, agenda-wise.
The caveat though is his experience. If post 135 is a true reflection of his experience I might need to consider re-adjusting my expectations but I think more interaction can resolve him. If not, then I would argue he's more likely to be scummy, but given the sheer number of people he's not touching fleshing him out is the way to go.
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On February 05 2016 14:42 Damdred wrote:
Guys moosey dumb yelled himself town.
life is easier
?
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On February 05 2016 14:30 Chezinu wrote:
Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game:
Chezinu
Palmar
nooniansoong
Zyrre
Interesting picks I must say.
random picked
but
chezinu picked
is chezinu random?
is random interesting?
does random have agency?
are you a government agent?
9/11 was an inside job.
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Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.
moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.
Ehats wrong with that team
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NM why did you not pick yourself in the game? and did you make anything of moosy picking you?
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Possible scum
VayneAuthority - I am going to do the same thing as I did with Rels and deliberately ignore any interactions with myself. Don't ever recall playing with this guy. But going through his filter, I am wondering if some of the little things are adding up here.
- He calls Rels nitpitcky defending JAT. No conclusion on Rels one way or another. (post 508)
- Then somewhere in the filter he says he's trying to improve my day 1....a bit interesting when JAT questions him on the named VT thing. He says he wants the lazy way out on day 1.
- On that point, from VA, zero other town reads, or should I say zero town reads, period, and I am at present the only scum read. (The difference between him and Noon, for the people that say Noon has zero reads is that he's made a point of deliberately not trying to play, and VA is trying to play but I digress). This begs the question, should town proceed to mislynch me, where does he go from there?
- speaking of which, he made a comment on using the named VT thing as a bait. But Rels asked me about this, (even if he said it was a reaction test of sorts after the fact) so here's my honest opinion on it.
I am sceptical here that this is possibly (let alone exclusively) town - the objective should be to solve the game, thinking it through the greatest threat to mafia are the ones who try and do that. If they have blue abilities to get even more information, great. Just play the game and keep mafia guessing, no need to default/give them extra kp like that. Hypotehtical situation, say if for some reason other blues are NKed early because they are game-solvers/threats/etc (many reasons people can be shot). Say scum incorrectly blue read someone. Shot missed. Named VT claims subsequently. Just saying. Good play can narrow down the lynch pool for scum, and I don't think giving extra kp is the way to do it. Some people tend to solve better late game for instance. Just play the game and ignore mechanics for the purposes of that argument.
- Marv calling out the reaction test and the purpose after the fact is another interesting point.
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On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.
moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.
Ehats wrong with that team
if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells.
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Its moosey though, its something he wouldn't pay attention to as town.
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On February 05 2016 14:50 ritoky wrote:
NM why did you not pick yourself in the game? and did you make anything of moosy picking you?
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I didn't pick myself because Moosy already picked me I thought?
As for Moosy picking me I am trying to wrap my head around where he stands with the people who scumread me for not being logical especially as he didn't pick them. He's saying I'm town for using convoluted reasoning. Even ignoring that, he should remember the few games I've had with him - I want to say fullmetal, he was vigi and I'm pretty sure I was more logical in that game. I am trying to get a grasp on that townread. Newbie....12? 14? the one game where I saved Moosy from getting mislynched. I played very different from this game.
Meta expectations I think might be off, but it's possible he may have just forgotten, since those games were a ways ago.
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you could have picked yourself with your first pick, you chose marv.
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On February 05 2016 14:55 Damdred wrote:
Its moosey though, its something he wouldn't pay attention to as town.
Moosy has admitted in the past he'd wifom stuff as both alignments IIRC. I think he's capable of doing such as scum. I also feel his day 1 play can be easily replicated as scum.
Therefore I am going to ferret him the old fashioned way especially as I have only 3 people out of a possible 4 I'm scumreading.
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On February 05 2016 14:42 Damdred wrote:
Guys moosey dumb yelled himself town.
life is easier
hush child. <333
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On February 05 2016 14:59 ritoky wrote:
you could have picked yourself with your first pick, you chose marv.
well I derped then. honestly had to go back and look.
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interesting...so i was the only one intentionally not picking myself then.
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