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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 10:50 GMT
#860
On February 05 2016 13:56 NocturneMage wrote:
marvellosity

aww, disarmed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 10:53 GMT
#861
On February 05 2016 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 13:56 NocturneMage wrote:
marvellosity

aww, disarmed

but really i'm not sure why NM is townreading me? I'd expect players who know me to be able to TR me a lot better than players who don't, technically i've done pretty little
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 10:57 GMT
#863
On February 05 2016 14:53 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.

moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.

Ehats wrong with that team


if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells.

i saw Rels mention it on the last page, and I thought the same as this post here - it's kinda meh in terms of dumbtells.

But maybe the way it happens makes it more believable/genuine. Don't really know what to think exactly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:00 GMT
#864
okay I like NM now, he's going after Plam
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:01 GMT
#865
On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.

Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.

##unvote
##Vote Palmar


*holds out hand*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:04 GMT
#869
On February 05 2016 20:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 14:53 ritoky wrote:
On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.

moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.

Ehats wrong with that team


if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells.

i saw Rels mention it on the last page, and I thought the same as this post here - it's kinda meh in terms of dumbtells.

But maybe the way it happens makes it more believable/genuine. Don't really know what to think exactly

It's part meta too. I can very clearly see this coming from Moosy. In one game I've played with him, he was town!roleblocker but didn't know he could stop scum KP because he didn't read the OP. In addition, Moosy is super serious as scum; he could replicate his "silly" town meta pretty easily, but I don't think he would think of this dumbtell.
It doesn't even feel like a forced dumbtell: he played a game until there were only 3 names left. It could have go unnoticed very easily. I didn't notice it.

The thing is, someone was always going to notice it. That's kinda non-admissable

inclined (i think) to believe you on your categorisation of his mafia/town play and likelihood to replicate it here. At least if he did it as mafia, I like it.

so i'll ride with this as a read for d1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:04 GMT
#871
On February 05 2016 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 19:53 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 16:14 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, I'm crashing. Lynch list excluding policy reads as of now: Koshi/VA/Palmar/Zyrre, the latter being more of a compromise with a possible adjustment for expectations (see my post).


I liked all your posts since I went to sleep. Not lynching you today for sure. (=
I don't want to lynch Koshi, I don't think what you've said in your case make him scum; it's basically "we can't see his read progression". I don't know if Koshi is town, but I don't think this makes him scum.
VA might be scum actually. There is a good point in your case: VA going:
1 => "Should named VT claim and we all sheep him ?"
2 => "I'm doing this so I can have a way out of playing D1 by sheeping"
3 => "Actually that was a test to bait the strongman on named VT"
Seems weird.
Palmar and Zyrre are definitely lynch worthy.

You are aware that he stole that point from marv?

he didn't steal, I was cited
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:07 GMT
#874
On February 05 2016 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.

Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.

##unvote
##Vote Palmar


*holds out hand*

You have no idea how satisfying this is for me :D

just to be clear: (apparently i like to write this this game when i vote for someone) i voted Palmar and then flicked through his filter.

Tonally i don't see much that feels off in his filter. But he actually has quite a few posts and they haven't led anywhere. If Palmar is being lazy town I'd expect less posts. It's a bad post/decisively doing things ratio for him.

in short: poking with a stick, might well keep poking right up to the end if i don't get my nuts off by then
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:09 GMT
#876
On February 05 2016 20:07 Rels wrote:
Gotta go in 5 minutes, then I'll be gone until tonight (like 5 hours before deadline).

in this vein, i'm gonna be afk for most of the evening, travelling up to london to see friends with my superior half
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:18 GMT
#879
On February 05 2016 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 20:07 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.

Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting.

##unvote
##Vote Palmar


*holds out hand*

You have no idea how satisfying this is for me :D

just to be clear: (apparently i like to write this this game when i vote for someone) i voted Palmar and then flicked through his filter.

Tonally i don't see much that feels off in his filter. But he actually has quite a few posts and they haven't led anywhere. If Palmar is being lazy town I'd expect less posts. It's a bad post/decisively doing things ratio for him.

in short: poking with a stick, might well keep poking right up to the end if i don't get my nuts off by then

Being sure about his alignment is impossible anyways with what he has done so far.

mmhmm. but if nothing else, it could be tremendously fun
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:23 GMT
#882
wow Zyrre played a game in 2010!?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:29 GMT
#888
On February 05 2016 20:28 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 20:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 20:25 disformation wrote:
phone post:
i am pretty sure nm is scum. will explain later.

[b]##vote: NocturneMage[\b]

hint: why would someone who really does not like meta make a huge meta case he probablx does not believe in.

Why would a mafia who said he dislikes meta make a meta case?

he did the same in nsm18.

i look forward to reading your case. although i'd be sad not to lynch plam
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:31 GMT
#889
So I think this post:

On July 31 2013 20:14 Zyrre wrote:
Reading through filters this morning trying to make some sense of the DeusX->reps->Umasi/alakaslam exchanges.

reps:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:21 reps)squishy wrote:
Well taking that DeusXmachina has already posted to lynch me Here I am going to remain neutral and NOT lynch him he may be town and, the more town the better right? It is day one and despite him going against me there is no evidence that he scum or an aggressive townsman or something else.

This post seems to be very town at first to me, however, following this post is 2.5h of posts where suspicion is aimed at DeusX instead. Then reps decides anyway to post this:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 14:48 reps)squishy wrote:
My response to skeptics.
He said he is a newbie multiple times!
Pff, oops I said I was a newbie to many times that does not decide what role I am.

He didnt edit his post, he found out he cant edit his post at the middle of him posting and decided to tell us about it. There is just something fishy about that.
scroll up there is another post that I almost edited. Almost looks exactly the same scrubby mistake.

My mistakes have made me look pretty scummy. But assure me saying I was new was me being truthful. Me claiming I was a noob should not decide if I am scum or not.

If he was going to point by point defend himself, why not do it right away? Seems overly defensivve too me since people did not jump on the wagon with DeusX and instead was questioning him at the time.
Later, he posts this:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:00 reps)squishy wrote:
On July 31 2013 14:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 31 2013 12:21 reps)squishy wrote:
Well taking that DeusXmachina has already posted to lynch me Here I am going to remain neutral and NOT lynch him he may be town and, the more town the better right? It is day one and despite him going against me there is no evidence that he scum or an aggressive townsman or something else.

Pfft. 'Scuse me, yeah there is. Coming


I am Hapless Peon (Vanilla Townie) what you claimed to be

To me it seems Alakaslam was saying that there was evidence DeusX was scummy. Even if he misread this as there being evidence that he(reps) was scummy, why would he as a proclaimed newbie claim his role when there was even talk about how very situational it was in the pregame?
All this together seems very scummy to me, confused to bad townie at best.

DeusX:
His aggresion so early might seem scummy, but I think his strategy if he was scum is terrible. Yes as pointed out you can be vocal scum, but not in the way he is doing it. You would need to be much more neutral but still post a lot. Going all out and be the first guy to accuse someone first day, when chances are we will accidentaly lynch a town anyway, just why? No reason at all to do this. The only reason to start a new lynch would be if a mafia was already targeted which wasnt the case.
In conclusion: he might be over-aggresive and his arguments may be weak, but not a mafia read from me so far.

Umasi/alakasam:
A bit hard to make sense of some of their chatter. However, just on the point they are also starting their own lynch and generally being friendly like that in the thread would make me lean town on them. I dont see why mafia would make such a strong connection between themselves for no reason (if one of them turns out mafia the other would be instantly lynched at next opportunity).
Conclusion: Pretty much neutral atm for me.


is much, much, much, much better than this post:

On February 05 2016 08:02 Zyrre wrote:
Went to bed shortly after the start, long day at work, and now back after reading the thread. I'm off work tomorrow so will try to post more before the lynch.

Some reads:

ritoky
leaning scum from bf's reasoning and his defense.

Just saying that posts are bad doesn't seem very productive, and saying he will lynch him quite early no matter if he is town or mafia. Says he wants to teach people by being "informed otherwise or punished for them". So due to his own reasoning he can just inform them and move on, but in this case he wanted to stop reading his posts and lynch him.

Claimed bf was doing nothing else than tunneling him, see below what bf was doing otherwise.

boxerfred
leaning town
Posted his read list of 6 people other than ritoky
Asking koshi to post scumreads rather then townreads
Calls out JAT for doing what he himself was arguing against(saying who was calling who scum, instead of the reasoning behind it)

damdred
slight scumlean
Some activity but only asking what others think and this "I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness." with no real followup

noonian
biggest scum read right now, at the moment would probably vote for him
Saying he will not care about this game even if he lives
Says if he was scum he would be playing like he is doing right now
"There are probably people who have put less effort than even me into this game. You might want to lynch them instead of me. " -- literally zero reads posted


Look at the train of thought in the first post, look at him trying to work out something that happened in the game, and then the followable train of thought when he's talking about other players
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:31 GMT
#890
Zyrre (not bolded)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:38 GMT
#892
i didn't like the post when i saw it, but i also thought, maybe just newbie doing his newbie thang. but that was his first "reads" post in the other game, and it's so much more nuanced and thoughtful.

Further he said he feels "less pressure because he is town" - I don't think his posting feels unpressured or carefree - rather it feels like it's an effort.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:45 GMT
#894
can't say i'm totally married to my boxerfred townread actually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:52 GMT
#896
On February 05 2016 20:47 justanothertownie wrote:
There are very few townreads I am married to if any. People be scummy or not playing.

well, it's just like. at the start i liked bf's zeal in going after ritoky. i can't tell if the continuing certainty is quite warranted, and if it's not warranted, i'm not sure that's scummy, but it's a little something.

kinda raised my eyebrow at him bringing up him being shot and ritoky looking bad. that's kinda a level or two too much for what's going on between them. again, could be pretty zealous town or mafia making too much out of that whole read

also i feel his treatment of disinformation is a little weird. like he's SO CERTAIN THAT he's town, SO EARLY AND CONSISTENTLY. saying he has "huge amounts of town cred" and also a post where he says he's "surprised disfo isn't here". Why? Why is he surprised? Should he be there at all times? Does it matter if he's not there if boxerfred is heavily townreading him?

It's just kinda odd tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:54 GMT
#897
the disfo treatment in particular is what nags at me, more than the other bits.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 11:55 GMT
#900
On February 05 2016 20:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Marv you say "thang" too much. That word is so nineties.

I'm old, okay?! :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2016 12:07 GMT
#904
On February 05 2016 21:05 Zyrre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't like the post when i saw it, but i also thought, maybe just newbie doing his newbie thang. but that was his first "reads" post in the other game, and it's so much more nuanced and thoughtful.

Further he said he feels "less pressure because he is town" - I don't think his posting feels unpressured or carefree - rather it feels like it's an effort.


I actually agree with you. I am feeling more pressure than I thought just because Im bad and I feel this game is really hard to read so far.

do your best, the more you post the easier it will be to read you (hopefully).

even if you can't come to firm conclusions, if your thought process on whatever is in the thread, that's helpful
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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