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On February 04 2016 19:10 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 18:55 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 18:47 ritoky wrote:
you don't have time to read the thread, only time to skim a couple pages, but then you have enough time to type a multi-paragraph case on someone? mhmmmm.
i don't even understand your post. why does anything you said make me mafia? especially considering you have 0 context for any of it.
"ritoky interacts with a ton of people"? what does this even mean for a reason? i ask questions and push for reads and thus am mafia? likewat? I read the thread fully. Maybe the word I use is bad: "skim". I think it means that I've read the thread, however I didn't put too much emphasis on everything but instead concentrated on what feels important to me, which in this case would be the interaction between you and disformation. How do you not understand my post? here's a tl;dr: you make up reasons to call disfo's post shit. I have all context for it that I need Oo, the context of the interaction. Regarding the interaction with others: you don't push for reads, you ask random questions to seemingly push for reads imho. You do not follow up, only if you're forced to (as you were when someone asked why you call disfo's post shit). I don't think that's town indicative. Even now you don't reasonably argue why what I say is wrong, instead you say "I dont understand, you lie". The only real argument you say is the last one, and it's a weak one so far. because i think there is a problem in translation here is why i don't understand it. i called his post bad because it is bad. but bad does not necessitate mafia. it is a poor post regardless of alignment and i am undecided on his alignment partially because it was so bad. here's what his post did in an expanded version: 1) contrary to what a lot of coaches teach these days about keeping the thread updated on when you're leaving, what you're doing, etc; i find that shit to rub me the wrong way and just be a pile of "notice how much extra i care everyone". maybe that's residual shit from when BH owned me by faking he was moving, but it always reads scummy to me. 2) he then says "oh i almost forgot". this implies that the thought he had while in bed on his phone was so important that he had to post from a state of inconvenience in order to notify the thread of what it was. now this is crap already cuz the game is 5 hrs old, but i will entertain it. however he then addresses nocturnemage who hasn't posted at this point with his post......something super important but directed at a person with 0 posts. 3) firstly he is giving NM a free entry into the thread, when mafia often times find entries particularly difficult and you have players like me and like palmar in the game who are quite good at spotting bad entries (if palmar is town obv). secondly instead of making a point or joke about metas like he wants to instead he is trying to defer to someone else who historically doesn't like meta reads to shit on them for him. what point does this have? what does this serve? it gains us nothing and loses us information. if you want to make jokes about meta and shit on meta then just do it instead of trying to bring someone else in. 4) then the smiley at the end just so everyone knows it was all a joke.....sight. that said disfo's enthusiasm, tone, and filter length indicates he is town. but some of his posts are turds. so he is neutral, but i know myself; certain people and the way they play the more i read of their posts the more i am gonna wanna lynch them for the way they post/talk/act/type; regardless of its bearing on their alignment. the posts were bad, they were net negative posts regardless of his alignment, and he shouldn't post like that.
3) Is a good point and I haven't considered this.
4) Not what I was trying to say with the smiley, but that is hard to argue about.
Also my second post on that matter was pretty super indeed + Show Spoiler +On February 04 2016 12:23 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 12:16 ritoky wrote:On February 04 2016 12:11 darthfoley wrote:On February 04 2016 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 04 2016 11:01 disformation wrote:phone post from bed. nearly forgot. @NocturneMage: care to remind me what you think of meta reads?  this post is terrible in so many ways. Why? 1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai 2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important 3) deferring to nocturnemage a) now confirmed not important b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason 4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool 5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz" nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash. still phone posting from bed cuz cant sleep: my post is amazing and you are bad. will explain after i got my answer. also nearly forgot:
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On February 04 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to I like this post. Paranoia is a good town trait to have imo.
In general yes. But not to a point where you don't trust anybody at all because that's not how you win as town. And Palmar who is probably the most experienced player in this game perfectly knows it.
This wasn't the first time he townread a mafia, in fact he always says "there is always that one mafia who slips into my townreads" so this should not be shocking to him.
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On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there.
So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense.
It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.
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On February 04 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to that's silly. we talked about this on irc, multi-family teams are almost designed for mafia to be able to look super good. pun intended
Hm yeah, I can see this scenario. However one push doesn't make a tunnel. I have time for Mafia, I even scheduled time windows to be able to fucking play. So I won't limit myself to one case D1, don't worry. Also, if I die N1, your pretty screwed imho, so if this is really town on town, it goes both ways, whoever dies of us. If it's one of us.
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On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro.
Koshi I like that you townread me but what about scum?
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On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there. So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense. It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.
only 3 years behind me bbz <3
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On February 04 2016 22:18 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to that's silly. we talked about this on irc, multi-family teams are almost designed for mafia to be able to look super good. pun intended Hm yeah, I can see this scenario. However one push doesn't make a tunnel. I have time for Mafia, I even scheduled time windows to be able to fucking play. So I won't limit myself to one case D1, don't worry. Also, if I die N1, your pretty screwed imho, so if this is really town on town, it goes both ways, whoever dies of us. If it's one of us.
sorry, what are you saying here?
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On February 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro. Did you pledge to post less this game? This isn't like you so far. Why is everyone talking about bf making some points against ritoky which is completely nai instead of talking about the arguments instead? Palmar is the main culprit here. You don't get to generalize like this and then call bf potentially mafia for it. Your backtrack just now doesn't make it better either.
Yep, why do you do it? I mean, you talk about Palmar instead of referring to my points, while you blame everyone to not talk about my points. Why? And what do you think about my points about ritoky?
Also, disformation, I expect huge things now. You're so silent now, are you not awake? Not reading? It's weird that you're not here.
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On February 04 2016 22:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:18 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to that's silly. we talked about this on irc, multi-family teams are almost designed for mafia to be able to look super good. pun intended Hm yeah, I can see this scenario. However one push doesn't make a tunnel. I have time for Mafia, I even scheduled time windows to be able to fucking play. So I won't limit myself to one case D1, don't worry. Also, if I die N1, your pretty screwed imho, so if this is really town on town, it goes both ways, whoever dies of us. If it's one of us. sorry, what are you saying here?
I say that if I die, ritoky does not look good because he was pushed rather hard by me.
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On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there. So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense. It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.
Him being pro-active doesn't make him anything. Him saying stuff he can't possibly believe in is the problem.
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On February 04 2016 22:21 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 22:18 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to that's silly. we talked about this on irc, multi-family teams are almost designed for mafia to be able to look super good. pun intended Hm yeah, I can see this scenario. However one push doesn't make a tunnel. I have time for Mafia, I even scheduled time windows to be able to fucking play. So I won't limit myself to one case D1, don't worry. Also, if I die N1, your pretty screwed imho, so if this is really town on town, it goes both ways, whoever dies of us. If it's one of us. sorry, what are you saying here? I say that if I die, ritoky does not look good because he was pushed rather hard by me.
ebwop: "If one of us dies next night, the other one will look bad", to explain the "it's one of us" part.
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On February 04 2016 22:21 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro. Did you pledge to post less this game? This isn't like you so far. Why is everyone talking about bf making some points against ritoky which is completely nai instead of talking about the arguments instead? Palmar is the main culprit here. You don't get to generalize like this and then call bf potentially mafia for it. Your backtrack just now doesn't make it better either. Yep, why do you do it? I mean, you talk about Palmar instead of referring to my points, while you blame everyone to not talk about my points. Why? And what do you think about my points about ritoky? Also, disformation, I expect huge things now. You're so silent now, are you not awake? Not reading? It's weird that you're not here.
I got up like 25mins ago and am drinking my first coffee. Also have some stuff to do so I can't play 24/7.
No clue why anyone would expect great things from the worst player in the game, but sure I can try.
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Palmar, what do you think of my points regarding ritoky? Like, you didn't say a thing about the content of my post, you just said a lot of why I would post it.
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On February 04 2016 22:23 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:21 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro. Did you pledge to post less this game? This isn't like you so far. Why is everyone talking about bf making some points against ritoky which is completely nai instead of talking about the arguments instead? Palmar is the main culprit here. You don't get to generalize like this and then call bf potentially mafia for it. Your backtrack just now doesn't make it better either. Yep, why do you do it? I mean, you talk about Palmar instead of referring to my points, while you blame everyone to not talk about my points. Why? And what do you think about my points about ritoky? Also, disformation, I expect huge things now. You're so silent now, are you not awake? Not reading? It's weird that you're not here. I got up like 25mins ago and am drinking my first coffee. Also have some stuff to do so I can't play 24/7. No clue why anyone would expect great things from the worst player in the game, but sure I can try.
You have a lot of town cred going for you, live up to that. What do you think about ritoky's push on you? What do you think about Palmar's reaction to my case?
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Also, we have few active players currently. Let's hope they step up until tomorrow.
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On February 04 2016 22:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there. So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense. It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw. only 3 years behind me bbz <3
So is Palmar town in your opinion?
On February 04 2016 22:21 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro. Did you pledge to post less this game? This isn't like you so far. Why is everyone talking about bf making some points against ritoky which is completely nai instead of talking about the arguments instead? Palmar is the main culprit here. You don't get to generalize like this and then call bf potentially mafia for it. Your backtrack just now doesn't make it better either. Yep, why do you do it? I mean, you talk about Palmar instead of referring to my points, while you blame everyone to not talk about my points. Why? And what do you think about my points about ritoky? Also, disformation, I expect huge things now. You're so silent now, are you not awake? Not reading? It's weird that you're not here.
Because I am not talking about your post but about peoples reaction to it. Personally I don't think to much of it. I agree that ritokys case was much weaker than he made it out to be and some of your arguments were correct in that regard. But I don't think it makes him mafia necessarily so I didn't felt the need to comment on that.
Odd is how palmar dismissed the whole post by saying "people who attack every single point of a case are mafia" which is 1) not true and 2) he knows this while completely ignoring what the points actually said.
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On February 04 2016 22:18 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro. Koshi I like that you townread me but what about scum?
Going to lynch into 5ish people. And then there are afk people.
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On February 04 2016 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to I like this post. Paranoia is a good town trait to have imo. In general yes. But not to a point where you don't trust anybody at all because that's not how you win as town. And Palmar who is probably the most experienced player in this game perfectly knows it. This wasn't the first time he townread a mafia, in fact he always says "there is always that one mafia who slips into my townreads" so this should not be shocking to him.
That's true. Palmar, you spent all game lynching scum last game until you died AND you did say that a scum would always slip in your townreads. I have no idea why you feel like "This game is going to be painful"; it doesn't make sense after your amazing reads last game.
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On February 04 2016 22:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there. So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense. It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw. Him being pro-active doesn't make him anything. Him saying stuff he can't possibly believe in is the problem.
Why wouldn't he believe in it? He just lead town previous game?
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On February 04 2016 22:28 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:On February 04 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:
This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever.
I feel I should just write off disfo as town, for example, but I don't want to I like this post. Paranoia is a good town trait to have imo. In general yes. But not to a point where you don't trust anybody at all because that's not how you win as town. And Palmar who is probably the most experienced player in this game perfectly knows it. This wasn't the first time he townread a mafia, in fact he always says "there is always that one mafia who slips into my townreads" so this should not be shocking to him. That's true. Palmar, you spent all game lynching scum last game until you died AND you did say that a scum would always slip in your townreads. I have no idea why you feel like "This game is going to be painful"; it doesn't make sense after your amazing reads last game.
This I can agree with. Would expect Palmar to be even more cocky tbh.
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