On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote: Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.
Okay. Was looking at these a bit more. Palmar wagon As I said before: scum very probably doesn't want to be all stuck on the same train. So especially if palmar is town there should be at least 1 scummer on palmar. UNLESS it is really MD+Onegu +2 ppl on the Zyrre train which is possible.
The three ppl voting Palmar that are not conf. from my pov are: NM, Rels and VA. NM: I wouldn't put it past him to make a case on Palmar D1 and try to get him lynched as scum. That is also an incredibly scary tinfoil. On the other hand I really am not able to legit scum read him. So I think he is town (for now). Rels: not having looked too close at Rels, yet. Should probably do this, since his scum game is pretty good. But on the other hand he has done nothing that screams town to me either. Actually he scum read both of zyrre and palmar and I am not 100% sure why he decided to prefer a palmar lynch. Though skimming his filter his approach to the game looks rather town. VA: his vote is nice and early, but he seemed very not invested into this. Only mention of zyrre is that the zyrre lynch seems too easy. So yeah this vote does not look great. Especially if Palmar is town.
Zyrre wagon
town lean on darthfoley. TR on marv. if koshi is scum probably not for this vote. cause jat and marv said so.
leaves me with the trio of nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred. No good read on any of those three tbh. Hope we have some investigation roles for those tbh. But I can easily see 2 scummers in there, especially if Palmar is scum.
Whoever replaces in for Onegu has some huge town rainbows to plant into the thread. Actually @ rels: what made you vote palmar over zyrre?
This game shouldn't be too hard if Palmar flips scum. Most likely 3 or maybe even all 4 mafia out of
darthfoley, koshi, kush, Chez, boxerfred, and marv. I realized i was being kinda stupid scum reading marv earlier, so we have (most likely) a 2/4 or 3/4 chance of lynching mafia between the other four if Palmar flips scum-- i'm not including myself because i'm just a good-to-do X Wing pilot.
I'm going to go through their filters later tonight hopefully, but I haven't liked Koshis posts for much of the game. I have a lot of work today, so it may have to wait until night.
darthfoley, regardless of Palmar's flip, solo voters are always poor. When and if you should get the chance, please comment on MoosyDoosy, who solo voted, and if you have any thoughts on my post. Thanks.
On February 09 2016 03:02 NocturneMage wrote: at disformation
between the two solo voters, MoosyDoosy is more likely mafia than Onegu. it isn't super likely a scumteam would have 2/4 off wagon, even so look at other attributes.
onegu there is absolutely zero indicative information either way.
MoosyDoosy could be scum because:
(1) repeated question dodging/not giving reads when requested (at least 3 occasions I've counted) - has bailed on me twice when questions have been asked directly of him, once day 1 and once early day 2
(2) reasons for scumreading/not trusting ritoky day 1 in context were extremely murky, vague and evasive
(3) even if Rels verified that MD's meta read on him was correct, he also townread me a bit too easily. namely that I was town for being illogical/convoluted, whereas disformation and Rels scumread me for the exact same thing. pretty sure now that read was contrived.
(4) Day 2 he stated that Rels' activity dropped off when the opposite was true - he was pushing Koshi. Instead of giving a read on Rels, Moosy gave another evasive answer (post 1854)
(5) bottom of page 95, I pressed him for a read on Rels AGAIN. He gave another deflective answer AGAIN. (post 1898) Nothing after that after I had to go to bed.
his "dumbtelling" is very easy to fake as mafia, and it's been a known fact since Fullmetal. I would use other criteria (less fake-able) to ensure he's town if he somehow is.
I will expand on these points with quotes when I'm back on a laptop if I need to but references should be obvious.
Onegu is completely null, but the above there is some information to go off of, and it's sure not townie IMO.
For point (4) to see it clearer, you have to read what Rels was doing, but that's the gist of that point.
On February 09 2016 07:15 NocturneMage wrote: boxerfred am I misunderstanding or why are you suggesting you'd be lynched?
you're misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I tend to be mislynched once I afk because I'm not great at establishing myself as town. Chezinu voted me which feels damn scummy to me. Im in bed now, gnite.
On February 09 2016 07:14 NocturneMage wrote: darthfoley, regardless of Palmar's flip, solo voters are always poor. When and if you should get the chance, please comment on MoosyDoosy, who solo voted, and if you have any thoughts on my post. Thanks.
On February 09 2016 03:02 NocturneMage wrote: at disformation
between the two solo voters, MoosyDoosy is more likely mafia than Onegu. it isn't super likely a scumteam would have 2/4 off wagon, even so look at other attributes.
onegu there is absolutely zero indicative information either way.
MoosyDoosy could be scum because:
(1) repeated question dodging/not giving reads when requested (at least 3 occasions I've counted) - has bailed on me twice when questions have been asked directly of him, once day 1 and once early day 2
(2) reasons for scumreading/not trusting ritoky day 1 in context were extremely murky, vague and evasive
(3) even if Rels verified that MD's meta read on him was correct, he also townread me a bit too easily. namely that I was town for being illogical/convoluted, whereas disformation and Rels scumread me for the exact same thing. pretty sure now that read was contrived.
(4) Day 2 he stated that Rels' activity dropped off when the opposite was true - he was pushing Koshi. Instead of giving a read on Rels, Moosy gave another evasive answer (post 1854)
(5) bottom of page 95, I pressed him for a read on Rels AGAIN. He gave another deflective answer AGAIN. (post 1898) Nothing after that after I had to go to bed.
his "dumbtelling" is very easy to fake as mafia, and it's been a known fact since Fullmetal. I would use other criteria (less fake-able) to ensure he's town if he somehow is.
I will expand on these points with quotes when I'm back on a laptop if I need to but references should be obvious.
Onegu is completely null, but the above there is some information to go off of, and it's sure not townie IMO.
For point (4) to see it clearer, you have to read what Rels was doing, but that's the gist of that point.
quoting this so it'll be in my filter. I'll get to this when I can.
Tonight Palmar had been executed. Day 2 has ended.
Announcement: Please welcome LightningStrike to the game. He replaces Onegu, effective immediately.
It is now Night 2. Please submit your night actions to Shapelog, scott31337 and myself. There is no resolution period. Night 2 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
EPT
