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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2016 17:56 GMT
#2041
On February 09 2016 02:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 02:54 Koshi wrote:
On February 09 2016 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
i'm actually finding it quite hard not to take all these posts as a virtual scumclaim

Hard to do when you are not mafia.

funny how it was easy to do for you then huh

sad days marv. sad days.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2016 18:00 GMT
#2042
On February 09 2016 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
koshi, if you had to take 2 people into space with you on your rocketship and one became your mason buddy and one you ejected from space and killed who would they be

What about we send MD/Onegu/Chez and let them fight it out? The least we try to kill Koshi the better. I promise.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2016 18:01 GMT
#2043
On February 09 2016 02:36 Koshi wrote:
Everything going according to plan?

This post feels particularly fake to me.

There's a votecount on the same page with Palmar on a billion votes.

But also at the same time he's aware he's the topic of conversation.

So... what's this post?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 08 2016 18:02 GMT
#2044
at disformation

between the two solo voters, MoosyDoosy is more likely mafia than Onegu. it isn't super likely a scumteam would have 2/4 off wagon, even so look at other attributes.

onegu there is absolutely zero indicative information either way.

MoosyDoosy could be scum because:

(1) repeated question dodging/not giving reads when requested (at least 3 occasions I've counted) - has bailed on me twice when questions have been asked directly of him, once day 1 and once early day 2

(2) reasons for scumreading/not trusting ritoky day 1 in context were extremely murky, vague and evasive

(3) even if Rels verified that MD's meta read on him was correct, he also townread me a bit too easily.
namely that I was town for being illogical/convoluted, whereas disformation and Rels scumread me for the exact same thing.
pretty sure now that read was contrived.

(4) Day 2 he stated that Rels' activity dropped off when the opposite was true - he was pushing Koshi. Instead of giving a read on Rels, Moosy gave another evasive answer (post 1854)

(5) bottom of page 95, I pressed him for a read on Rels AGAIN. He gave another deflective answer AGAIN. (post 1898) Nothing after that after I had to go to bed.

his "dumbtelling" is very easy to fake as mafia, and it's been a known fact since Fullmetal.
I would use other criteria (less fake-able) to ensure he's town if he somehow is.

I will expand on these points with quotes when I'm back on a laptop if I need to but references should be obvious.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 08 2016 18:04 GMT
#2045
Pretty sure Koshi is scum. Will 100% lynch him day 3.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2016 18:07 GMT
#2046
Till tomorrow then
I had a good night of sleep.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 08 2016 18:12 GMT
#2047
awww for real koshi.... you're scum....................im so disappoint
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 18:26 GMT
#2048
hm yea he didnt answer my question directly or even jokingly not my best buddy this game
I come in for the scraps
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2016 19:03 GMT
#2049
On February 09 2016 03:02 NocturneMage wrote:
at disformation

between the two solo voters, MoosyDoosy is more likely mafia than Onegu. it isn't super likely a scumteam would have 2/4 off wagon, even so look at other attributes.

onegu there is absolutely zero indicative information either way.

MoosyDoosy could be scum because:

(1) repeated question dodging/not giving reads when requested (at least 3 occasions I've counted) - has bailed on me twice when questions have been asked directly of him, once day 1 and once early day 2

(2) reasons for scumreading/not trusting ritoky day 1 in context were extremely murky, vague and evasive

(3) even if Rels verified that MD's meta read on him was correct, he also townread me a bit too easily.
namely that I was town for being illogical/convoluted, whereas disformation and Rels scumread me for the exact same thing.
pretty sure now that read was contrived.

(4) Day 2 he stated that Rels' activity dropped off when the opposite was true - he was pushing Koshi. Instead of giving a read on Rels, Moosy gave another evasive answer (post 1854)

(5) bottom of page 95, I pressed him for a read on Rels AGAIN. He gave another deflective answer AGAIN. (post 1898) Nothing after that after I had to go to bed.

his "dumbtelling" is very easy to fake as mafia, and it's been a known fact since Fullmetal.
I would use other criteria (less fake-able) to ensure he's town if he somehow is.

I will expand on these points with quotes when I'm back on a laptop if I need to but references should be obvious.

Well, yeah MD looks worse than onegu because onegu is a true null read.
Still don't think (3) is too worrisome. Your points on him dodging your questions is good though. He can join the list of ppl I have a scum lean on.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2016 19:25 GMT
#2050
On February 09 2016 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 02:37 disformation wrote:
On February 09 2016 02:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 09 2016 02:28 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2016 02:25 disformation wrote:
Hmmm... not a single scummer being on the palmar train sounds hard to belief...
Well the votes were super fucking close. Maybe scum really was jumping hard on the zyrre train to save Palmar in the hope he can pull that stuff he did in Outlaw again?
Like Palmar+koshi+chez+1 of MD or Onegu doesn't sound unreasonable.

One interesting thing to notice about the votecount is the last 4 players (if we include you) on the Palmar train were town

Usually (obv not always, but as a vague rule of thumb) you'd expect the players at the front to be town, and the players more in the middle/end to be mafia (where mafia come to the realisation they need to bus), but in this case it's not quite like that. It adds to the possibility the wagon was "pure"


Basically everyone needs to take a deep breath and not complicate the game, this game seems really simple as long as I ignore NM and trust the meta read on him. Disform you arent taking into account the throwaway votes which are stupid indicative of mafia.

Yeah, I like to overthink (or underthink) things.
I am a man of extremes you know. :p

And nah I am not entirely ignoring the throw away votes.
MD can be scum here, but he is pretty coinflippy to me atm. For Onegu I don't think this vote is AI with him replacing out and stuff. Though the same happened in DT.
Would be rally hilarious if it is really Onegu/MD/Chez/Palmar... -.-
Would explain why everyone is struggling with reads.

Like if the Palmar wagon is really pure, there can't be 4 scum on zyrre imo. Even three would be somewhat of a stretch.

don't really understand why this is or isn't the case. 3 is easily believable, and 4 maybe.

here's a little food for thought: what if Palmar was their vigi?

UUuuuhhhhh... right!
Totally did not think about scum roles. Makes total sense if Palmar is a really good scum role.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 08 2016 20:03 GMT
#2051
yeah sorry guys I don't have the energy to fight this. I'm just sort of burned out at the moment.

I really am not mafia, but because I'm not going to fight or try then you have to lynch me anyway so that's life.

I tried starting filters like 4 times today and just couldn't summon the energy to do it.

Good luck.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 08 2016 20:05 GMT
#2052
I think marv is town for what it's worth, and he's just about the only person I've extensively talked to, so maybe he can dig this game up
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 20:27 GMT
#2053
Back! Earlier than I thought.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 20:29 GMT
#2054
On February 09 2016 05:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah sorry guys I don't have the energy to fight this. I'm just sort of burned out at the moment.

I really am not mafia, but because I'm not going to fight or try then you have to lynch me anyway so that's life.

I tried starting filters like 4 times today and just couldn't summon the energy to do it.

Good luck.

On December 03 2015 22:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Good cop check / vig shot.


Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure.

Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad.

Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot.

Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing.

I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do.

On December 04 2015 22:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 22:00 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 04 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out.

Wow you actually do have four pages of filter. Okay. But I do disagree with you viz you "being towny" enough. It's actually not. When you get mislynched its almost always 50% on the idiots who lynched you and 50% on you for being scummy town. That's a really important thing that lots of people forget as town.

Dude...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10890802
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10936906

I'm literally the goddamn prophet of "if you get lynched it's your own damn fault". That ties very well into what I was saying earlier about why I should never be vigged.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 20:30 GMT
#2055
I thought of writing comments too but it doesn't need any.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 20:32 GMT
#2056
On February 09 2016 03:02 NocturneMage wrote:
(5) bottom of page 95, I pressed him for a read on Rels AGAIN. He gave another deflective answer AGAIN. (post 1898) Nothing after that after I had to go to bed.

I agree with disfo that this particular point might be strong.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 08 2016 20:36 GMT
#2057
#never4get

On December 05 2015 02:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:34 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2015 22:05 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2015 22:00 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 04 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out.

Wow you actually do have four pages of filter. Okay. But I do disagree with you viz you "being towny" enough. It's actually not. When you get mislynched its almost always 50% on the idiots who lynched you and 50% on you for being scummy town. That's a really important thing that lots of people forget as town.

Dude...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10890802
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10936906

I'm literally the goddamn prophet of "if you get lynched it's your own damn fault". That ties very well into what I was saying earlier about why I should never be vigged.

How the fuck did you get these links in 2 minutes.



Still cracks me up. =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2016 20:40 GMT
#2058
On February 09 2016 05:36 Rels wrote:
#never4get

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 02:52 Palmar wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:34 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2015 22:05 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2015 22:00 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 04 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out.

Wow you actually do have four pages of filter. Okay. But I do disagree with you viz you "being towny" enough. It's actually not. When you get mislynched its almost always 50% on the idiots who lynched you and 50% on you for being scummy town. That's a really important thing that lots of people forget as town.

Dude...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10890802
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10936906

I'm literally the goddamn prophet of "if you get lynched it's your own damn fault". That ties very well into what I was saying earlier about why I should never be vigged.

How the fuck did you get these links in 2 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tUHGob4w_c


Still cracks me up. =D

dat was super hype.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
February 08 2016 21:09 GMT
#2059
Some may say that you are not deep.
Some may say that you are not an intellectual.
Some may say that you are not an artist.
Some may say that you are not a critic.
Some may say that you are not a poet.
Some may say that you just have internet access.

Well, know this.

Those some may sayers are not going to live with you long. So know that there are other some may sayers that can cheer you on.

You can Deep!
You can Intel!
You can Art!
You can Crit!
You can Poe!
You can and have internet access!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2016 21:24 GMT
#2060
On February 09 2016 06:09 Chezinu wrote:
Some may say that you are not deep.
Some may say that you are not an intellectual.
Some may say that you are not an artist.
Some may say that you are not a critic.
Some may say that you are not a poet.
Some may say that you just have internet access.

Well, know this.

Those some may sayers are not going to live with you long. So know that there are other some may sayers that can cheer you on.

You can Deep!
You can Intel!
You can Art!
You can Crit!
You can Poe!
You can and have internet access!

Truly inspirational. Well said Chez.
How are you on this fine time of the day? I hope you are well.
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