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On February 14 2016 08:38 keanuisgod wrote:
Am I missing something with Valdi?
NNN's scumread on him apparently is only based on him being NocturneMage
Garga's townread on him apparently is only based on him being HalfTheSky
What's there left for us that don't believe in smurfhunting (or don't understand the meta reads based on the above players)? Only robik's case so far.
Anything else?
Still don't understand why you're townreading the guy. His posts are pretty but it has even less content than yours ^^
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On February 14 2016 14:26 Valdiano wrote:
sigh, real life is really getting in the way here. I'd say more but I'll reserve it for postgame.
to the people commenting on why my saita push didn't go anywhere, I'd have preferred to engage him more. The first response he had to me was satisfactory, it was the one where he said he wanted to find a motive behind the post, which is why he wanted to play a more or less reactive game.
also it was either keanu or robik, it's also hard to engage with the thread when you don't really have the time to play, only options are those people who are around when I am. bhall I was trying to pick his brain before I had to go again.
wartruckk's end of day comments - the wagon being trash makes no sense but at that time it's not like his vote would have done anything anyhow.
I'll return and catch up fully later sunday.
Still no game solving content in this post. Excuse + defense + a comment on wartruk that seems cool but is useless to determine his alignment.
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Vladi + Wartruk, with a possibility of garga is my scum team.
Possible kaenu too if he's not Shape, if he's Shape though I think he's town.
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Back to st valentin stuff, see you later ^^
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We're pretty much on the same page robik.
Shape did play an amazing scum game last game btw.
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On February 15 2016 00:15 Iwasrobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:47 keanuisgod wrote:
Anyways robik, I am not sure you believe your own case against me, it seems to me like you haven't even read my filter (though I'm biased since I now my alignment obs).
Your only points are:
- "Fluff" posts and "He's not trying to solve the game" attitude when it was like 2-4 hours into D1, conveniently ignoring anything else from late-D1 (where shit actually matters).
- The Bhaal case, which also had an illogical point (the last one). I can't really call you out on you thinking that about me because of the Bhaal case since you weren't there in the thread when it happened (though I guess you can still reread the thread carefully to figure things out). So I'll ignore that (other than the bad point you made). I advise you to reread that part of the thread carefully.
- Don't call too many people scum. I can see how you may think this might be "scummy" in isolation, but context is everything so I believe just reading the thread and my filter would dissipate any doubts regarding this point. The last point was the reason I was sure you were scum. Now I think you're town, but maybe try to take stronger stances in the future, as you didn't take one the whole game. For example, your votes were "fuck it I'm voting LS", "damnit I'm voting goldrom the only lynch potential" and "I'm bored I'm voting robik". Even now against me, you're unsure and it seems like you're asking others' opinion to scumread me. Being that indecisive is the easiest way to be manipulated in mafia; do stuff, attack people on things you think make them scum, make them react. That's what I did, and I think you're town now 'casue of your thinking about why I would attack you as scum was kinda smart.
Like I said, I can't "fake" strong stances. If I am not sure about the game I'll make it clear.
But yeah, that's a problem I've been having as town in a long while. Maybe the scum game in TL has improved so much and I got left behind in terms of skills.
do stuff, attack people on things you think make them scum, make them react
Difficult to do that in a game with so many lurkers. I did that with Bhaal and it worked too.
On February 15 2016 00:20 Iwasrobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 05:16 keanuisgod wrote:These are robik's thoughts on Garga and Warty: On February 13 2016 09:14 Iwasrobik wrote:On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked I had a townread on him for some reason reading the thread. Let's see why. On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter I first had a scumread for this post. On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls
either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire
##Vote 77Goldrom Oh yeah, he was one of the first to take a firm stance for the lynch. Town points. On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.
in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care. Not scumreading me when I was an easy ML. + Having strong opinions in his few posts. Not confirmed town but likely IMO. Weak town read on Garga On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
Wartruk is (probably) town 'cause of his attack on kush very early, when kush is the main force behind discussion blablabla, and thus a pretty bad target to attack for scum. And his posts EOD1 are way too obviously bad for scums to make I think, I'm wary of that one but that's what I think. Weak town read on Warty On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
I think I have everyone ? The two scums, I explained why gargamed was maybe town above. Pretty sure kaenu and Valdia are the 2 scums. We are in MYLO yet he's "pretty sure" he found the whole scumteam, when he still has (admited by him) weak town reads on Garga and Warty. Dunno about you, but if I have 2 dudes just with slight town reads (hell, it may even reflect my own reads on Garga and Warty so far), I am not going to wager MYLO on fixating my scum reads on the remaining 2 people and call it a day. The most important thing I'd be doing is dispelling or confirming those "weak" town reads on Garga and Warty. However, this doesn't seem to be on robik's mind since he hasn't addressed Garga nor Warty to figure out their alignment once in this game so far. This is the most sketchy thing for me, specially when his case against me is so bad I can't believe he's that convinced by it. His posts so far scream "hidden agenda" to me, not a townie trying to figure the game out so town can salvage something out of these 2-consecutive MYLOs we are going to have. This post is so bad though it's making me doubt my townread. IF YOU RE TOWN STOP FITTING EVERYTHING INTO FUCKING NARRATIVES
So you are saying that point about me not having "strong stances" trumped any kind of "weak read" you had on Warty and Garga at the time?
Also, the other points of your case against me were very bad indeed, you aren't the only one justified in calling me "bad".
On February 15 2016 00:25 Iwasrobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 14:26 Valdiano wrote:
sigh, real life is really getting in the way here. I'd say more but I'll reserve it for postgame.
to the people commenting on why my saita push didn't go anywhere, I'd have preferred to engage him more. The first response he had to me was satisfactory, it was the one where he said he wanted to find a motive behind the post, which is why he wanted to play a more or less reactive game.
also it was either keanu or robik, it's also hard to engage with the thread when you don't really have the time to play, only options are those people who are around when I am. bhall I was trying to pick his brain before I had to go again.
wartruckk's end of day comments - the wagon being trash makes no sense but at that time it's not like his vote would have done anything anyhow.
I'll return and catch up fully later sunday. Still no game solving content in this post. Excuse + defense + a comment on wartruk that seems cool but is useless to determine his alignment.
I get my read from "feels" most of the time. That's how I was certain Bhaal was town in late-D1 (when I would have lynched him otherwise, like I mentioned in my case). I don't "feel" these players (Garga/Warty/Valdi) being scum right now, but that might be just because I'm bad
Anyways, now robik gives me townie feels so it's time to reread everything and make up my mind I suppose. Didn't expect this day to be so slow (even slower than D1)
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Sigh I need to look at shape aka keanu more.
His last scumgame was so good, so that destroys any confidence I have in my ability to read him.
The stubbornness in his robik read is scaring me.
His last case on robik lightly townreading two people looks like he's reaching.
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and i got ninjad by something that invalidates what i just said..
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Vote Count
Valdiano (2): Iwasrobik, nnn_thekushmountains
Wartrukk (1): GargamelxD
GargamelxD (1): Wartrukk
Not Voting (2): Valdiano, keanuisgod
At this time, no one is slated to be lynched.
With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch
Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here
Only votes there will be counted.
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Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest
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On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest
I think that is unlikely because scum really doesn't want to bus in this scenario. Especially when it's very possible that either of them could be lynched.
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I've seen (and done) worse as scum, at least when scum are "sure" what town sentiment is and ride along with it (in that case it would be "Whole town wagons on Valdi and ignores Gargy/Warty"). Anyways, just fun speculation
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I mean, it doesn't look good for any of them to park a vote on the other for NO reason (or random reasons) and never show up.
At the very least Valdiano HAS to come here, make a vote and post some reasoning or something (lest getting modkilled), Gargy and Warty can lurk until deadline if they want
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so keanu do you have scumreads right now?
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No >_>
But don't worry, I'm gonna get there soon
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On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest
This is a super odd post. Im voting my scumread, whom you suspect as well and that makes this post really scummy.
There's no reason for you to believe that either me or warty are doing something stupid unless you are confident we're both town, seems like tmi, on me at least.
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How does the phrase "If you are town you are acting stupidly; therefore it's possible you are actually scum" not make sense?
And "acting stupidly" means parking a vote on someone with no reasonable justification on MYLO
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On February 15 2016 03:50 GargamelxD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest This is a super odd post. Im voting my scumread, whom you suspect as well and that makes this post really scummy. There's no reason for you to believe that either me or warty are doing something stupid unless you are confident we're both town, seems like tmi, on me at least.
I actually had the same exact thought as keanu when I saw the vote count. I thought about it more and thought "nah."
But it was an intesnse mindmelding with keanu.
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On February 15 2016 03:59 keanuisgod wrote:
How does the phrase "If you are town you are acting stupidly; therefore it's possible you are actually scum" not make sense?
And "acting stupidly" means parking a vote on someone with no reasonable justification on MYLO
So all the shit you said about warty was a complete lie since in your opinion voting him isn't reasonable even though he has a good shot at being mafia and you should think that too.
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