• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:27
CET 04:27
KST 12:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1810Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1320 users

New Smurf Mini Mafia - Page 23

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 53 Next
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 13 2016 22:51 GMT
#441
We are at a fancy restaurant now. She's in the bathroom. I'll try to make sense of all the recent posting tomorrow.

Right now I'm thinking scum is valdi plus garg or wartrukk. Those reads are kinda uninformed though
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 13 2016 22:57 GMT
#442
On February 13 2016 09:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

I had a townread on him for some reason reading the thread. Let's see why.
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

I first had a scumread for this post.
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls

either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire

##Vote 77Goldrom

Oh yeah, he was one of the first to take a firm stance for the lynch. Town points.
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.

in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care.

Not scumreading me when I was an easy ML.
+
Having strong opinions in his few posts.

Not confirmed town but likely IMO.

Oh yeah I remember thinking this made sense at the time but this is actually such a bullshit reason. "Having strong opinions" and "taking a firm stance" but these things are backed up by nothing in garg's filter, it's like robik just grabbed a couple posts that sound good and called garg town.

+ Show Spoiler +
also "Not confirmed town but likely IMO." Is some weird language to use for some random posts
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 22:58 GMT
#443
On February 14 2016 07:51 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
Regarding robik, he just came into the game so it'd be hard to gauge alignment just on a couple of posts. However, I'm getting strong suspicions on him being scum.
His demeanor sticks out in a weird manner, since he JUST came into the game and is acting like he solved everything and he caught the scumteam and has NO doubts whatsoever about anything .... when it's MYLO. I'd presume he'd be MORE confused than us in this game since he missed D1 and a lot of stuff, not that he'd be more confident than ANY of us. Also, if I assume he's town the way he made his reads feels weird. Like, Garga and Warty seem "likely town so I'll leave them alone" (which to be honest is somewhat what I did with the "Standby" pile up there). So from his POV the ONLY thing left is accuse me of being scum (assuming NNN is town and scum have no way of believably go against him). His case is bad, the way he approached his read on me is weird too. It feels like the only reason he's FOSing me is because of PoE, not because he thinks I'm scum in an independent manner.
From my POV, if Garga and Warty are still in that Standby(me)/Likely town(robik) pile, then it doesn't make sense for robik to go after me with such conviction instead of taking a step back and figure out if his actual (admitted by him as not strong) reads on Garga and Warty. This makes perfect sense if he's scum and found some "scummy" posts of mine to scapegoat while not wanting to go against the flow and accuse someone of Garga/Warty. If he's scum with Valdi then Gargy/Warty/me(obs) are all town so he HAS to pick one to scapegoat, and apparently I have the scummiest posts. He could also be scum with one of Gargy/Warty so in that case he'd obviously have some agenda (not to push his buddy for instance).
Also I had my (very small) suspicions of unholy back on D1 (which I think I already posted), so it doesn't feel out of place for robik to be scum (considering unholy).


I did notice he gave me my well deserved townread when nobody else did, but it's weird that you say he could be with valdi but that would imply you are the scummiest of the reest of the townies. This is incorrect, going for the low hanging fruit is often called out on TL from what I see.

Yeah, fuck, I'll read robik's filter brb


Are you saying I am NOT the scummiest of the rest of the townies, or that I AM the scummiest of the rest of the townies?
Don't follow, who is the "low-hanging-fruit" here?
Whoa!
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 13 2016 23:02 GMT
#444
you not scummy
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 13 2016 23:03 GMT
#445
Probably me or valdi at this point since valdi has so much heat and hasn't defended himself
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 23:06 GMT
#446
Ok.

My "narrative" regarding robik is this:
I'm thinking that robik (and scumteam by association) think the medic is between Gargy/Warty (whoever is townie between thme or both), so he HAS to go after me and leave those two be to be safe. I mean, you can't prop up the medic as your D3 mislynch since once he claims your plans are fucked.
So he HAS to make a shitty case on me and push me as "obvious scum" for it to work, i.e it's less risky for scum.
Valdi can be scumbuddy under the bus or just townie robik is latching on for D2 misslynch

But well, obviously this is a narrative that only works assuming he's scum
Whoa!
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:09 GMT
#447
Yo I'm super drunk so I'll pass out and wont come back before tomorrow. Some posts made me want to puke more than alcohol though during reading, by both warttuk on my reads that are suddenly bullshit and kaenu s attack on me
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:10 GMT
#448
On February 14 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Ok.

My "narrative" regarding robik is this:
I'm thinking that robik (and scumteam by association) think the medic is between Gargy/Warty (whoever is townie between thme or both), so he HAS to go after me and leave those two be to be safe. I mean, you can't prop up the medic as your D3 mislynch since once he claims your plans are fucked.
So he HAS to make a shitty case on me and push me as "obvious scum" for it to work, i.e it's less risky for scum.
Valdi can be scumbuddy under the bus or just townie robik is latching on for D2 misslynch

But well, obviously this is a narrative that only works assuming he's scum

No wait this obviously is super bad but this post is 90% from a townie. Shapelog attacked me with narrative like that in a game I didn't have time to play, keanu is shape right ? I read that somewhere.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:11 GMT
#449
Meh can't think will read that tomorrow when my gf is not watching. Warttuk prob scum for bring "yeah robik you're right!" Yesterday and now he is "yea kaenu you're right!"
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:13 GMT
#450
Head is spinning see you tomorrow
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 13 2016 23:13 GMT
#451
Well, last night I thought you made sense, now I think keanu makes sense. No issues from me there
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:15 GMT
#452
Yeah and when you thought I made sense you were like "yeah valdi used to make sense to me but now that you're pointing it out he didn't"
Read changing depending on the person you're talking to
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#453
Well since you agreed valdi was scum I'm sure you will have no prob lynching him
Good night
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 23:38 GMT
#454
Am I missing something with Valdi?

NNN's scumread on him apparently is only based on him being NocturneMage
Garga's townread on him apparently is only based on him being HalfTheSky

What's there left for us that don't believe in smurfhunting (or don't understand the meta reads based on the above players)? Only robik's case so far.

Anything else?
Whoa!
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 14 2016 00:08 GMT
#455
His play is pure nitpicking
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 01:08 GMT
#456
You here NNN? Thoughts on robik?
Whoa!
Valdiano
Profile Joined February 2016
16 Posts
February 14 2016 05:26 GMT
#457
sigh, real life is really getting in the way here. I'd say more but I'll reserve it for postgame.

to the people commenting on why my saita push didn't go anywhere, I'd have preferred to engage him more. The first response he had to me was satisfactory, it was the one where he said he wanted to find a motive behind the post, which is why he wanted to play a more or less reactive game.

also it was either keanu or robik, it's also hard to engage with the thread when you don't really have the time to play, only options are those people who are around when I am. bhall I was trying to pick his brain before I had to go again.

wartruckk's end of day comments - the wagon being trash makes no sense but at that time it's not like his vote would have done anything anyhow.

I'll return and catch up fully later sunday.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 14 2016 15:15 GMT
#458
On February 14 2016 03:47 keanuisgod wrote:
Anyways robik, I am not sure you believe your own case against me, it seems to me like you haven't even read my filter (though I'm biased since I now my alignment obs).

Your only points are:
- "Fluff" posts and "He's not trying to solve the game" attitude when it was like 2-4 hours into D1, conveniently ignoring anything else from late-D1 (where shit actually matters).
- The Bhaal case, which also had an illogical point (the last one). I can't really call you out on you thinking that about me because of the Bhaal case since you weren't there in the thread when it happened (though I guess you can still reread the thread carefully to figure things out). So I'll ignore that (other than the bad point you made). I advise you to reread that part of the thread carefully.
- Don't call too many people scum. I can see how you may think this might be "scummy" in isolation, but context is everything so I believe just reading the thread and my filter would dissipate any doubts regarding this point.

The last point was the reason I was sure you were scum. Now I think you're town, but maybe try to take stronger stances in the future, as you didn't take one the whole game. For example, your votes were "fuck it I'm voting LS", "damnit I'm voting goldrom the only lynch potential" and "I'm bored I'm voting robik". Even now against me, you're unsure and it seems like you're asking others' opinion to scumread me. Being that indecisive is the easiest way to be manipulated in mafia; do stuff, attack people on things you think make them scum, make them react. That's what I did, and I think you're town now 'casue of your thinking about why I would attack you as scum was kinda smart.
On February 14 2016 03:47 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
To finish quickly before leaving:
kush is town 'cause he is the the main force behind discussion in this game, and scum has an hard time doing that; and kush is a pretty lazy scum.


You know NNN's smurf?

Yep I'm quite sure it's kush. He misposted in this game as noon, and he misposted in star wars mafia as nnn.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 14 2016 15:20 GMT
#459
On February 14 2016 05:16 keanuisgod wrote:
These are robik's thoughts on Garga and Warty:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 09:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

I had a townread on him for some reason reading the thread. Let's see why.
On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

I first had a scumread for this post.
On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls

either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire

##Vote 77Goldrom

Oh yeah, he was one of the first to take a firm stance for the lynch. Town points.
On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.

in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care.

Not scumreading me when I was an easy ML.
+
Having strong opinions in his few posts.

Not confirmed town but likely IMO.


Weak town read on Garga

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
Wartruk is (probably) town 'cause of his attack on kush very early, when kush is the main force behind discussion blablabla, and thus a pretty bad target to attack for scum. And his posts EOD1 are way too obviously bad for scums to make I think, I'm wary of that one but that's what I think.


Weak town read on Warty

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
I think I have everyone ? The two scums, I explained why gargamed was maybe town above. Pretty sure kaenu and Valdia are the 2 scums.


We are in MYLO yet he's "pretty sure" he found the whole scumteam, when he still has (admited by him) weak town reads on Garga and Warty.

Dunno about you, but if I have 2 dudes just with slight town reads (hell, it may even reflect my own reads on Garga and Warty so far), I am not going to wager MYLO on fixating my scum reads on the remaining 2 people and call it a day.

The most important thing I'd be doing is dispelling or confirming those "weak" town reads on Garga and Warty. However, this doesn't seem to be on robik's mind since he hasn't addressed Garga nor Warty to figure out their alignment once in this game so far.
This is the most sketchy thing for me, specially when his case against me is so bad I can't believe he's that convinced by it.
His posts so far scream "hidden agenda" to me, not a townie trying to figure the game out so town can salvage something out of these 2-consecutive MYLOs we are going to have.

This post is so bad though it's making me doubt my townread. IF YOU RE TOWN STOP FITTING EVERYTHING INTO FUCKING NARRATIVES
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 14 2016 15:23 GMT
#460
On February 14 2016 08:10 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Ok.

My "narrative" regarding robik is this:
I'm thinking that robik (and scumteam by association) think the medic is between Gargy/Warty (whoever is townie between thme or both), so he HAS to go after me and leave those two be to be safe. I mean, you can't prop up the medic as your D3 mislynch since once he claims your plans are fucked.
So he HAS to make a shitty case on me and push me as "obvious scum" for it to work, i.e it's less risky for scum.
Valdi can be scumbuddy under the bus or just townie robik is latching on for D2 misslynch

But well, obviously this is a narrative that only works assuming he's scum

No wait this obviously is super bad but this post is 90% from a townie. Shapelog attacked me with narrative like that in a game I didn't have time to play, keanu is shape right ? I read that somewhere.

Meh. I can't see scum imagining that, it's sooo complicated when kaenu already has reasons to scumread me. Probably tonw.
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 53 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 774
Mini 234
Light 232
Shuttle 177
Stork 85
ZergMaN 50
Noble 27
Hm[arnc] 13
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever375
NeuroSwarm4
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 692
C9.Mang0497
Cuddl3bear5
Counter-Strike
summit1g7207
m0e_tv243
minikerr44
Other Games
tarik_tv6313
Maynarde132
RuFF_SC219
kaitlyn2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1047
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 112
• davetesta42
• Mapu13
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki21
• XenOsky 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21550
Other Games
• Scarra2843
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 34m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.