I didn't really care about this game before and now I REALLY don't care
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Wartrukk
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I didn't really care about this game before and now I REALLY don't care | ||
GargamelxD
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On February 12 2016 15:00 Wartrukk wrote: wait lol LS got modkilled, was the guy who was lying (and obviously LS) and ALSO VT I didn't really care about this game before and now I REALLY don't care hearing it from me was just as good as a modconfirmation, yams | ||
keanuisgod
271 Posts
On February 12 2016 14:59 Wartrukk wrote: lol nice omgus this is funny. ... how can it be OMGUS if you never accused me of anything ... | ||
Wartrukk
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On February 12 2016 15:10 keanuisgod wrote: ... how can it be OMGUS if you never accused me of anything ... wait what I thought saitama posted the other thing oh well | ||
Wartrukk
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Mr Darcy
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keanuisgod
271 Posts
Sigs don't lie ... | ||
nooniansoong
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 15:33 keanuisgod wrote: I could see saitama being scum only because he says so in his sig: "I am a mafia smurf" Sigs don't lie ... Lol. | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote: It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it? It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy" Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him? When wartrukk came into the thread, the 77goldrom lynch was inevitable. Why does it matter who he voted? Who he voted was obv not getting lynched, but 77 was just as obv getting lynched. So youre pushing him on something he couldn't control. | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
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keanuisgod
271 Posts
On February 12 2016 21:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: When wartrukk came into the thread, the 77goldrom lynch was inevitable. Why does it matter who he voted? Who he voted was obv not getting lynched, but 77 was just as obv getting lynched. So youre pushing him on something he couldn't control. From what I remember Wartruk was posting and stuff when I left, and I think before saitama and Bhaal have made their votes (thus it'd be 4 votes on Gold by then). Either way, him making sporadic posts here and there but not following up what town is doing (like ... lynching someone, and having a previous wagon on Bhaal too) is scummy to me. Wasting your vote, depending on the situation is scummy too ... and I believe this is one of those situations. | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 21:57 keanuisgod wrote: From what I remember Wartruk was posting and stuff when I left, and I think before saitama and Bhaal have made their votes (thus it'd be 4 votes on Gold by then). Either way, him making sporadic posts here and there but not following up what town is doing (like ... lynching someone, and having a previous wagon on Bhaal too) is scummy to me. Wasting your vote, depending on the situation is scummy too ... and I believe this is one of those situations. So you are calling him scummy for not pushing his lynch harder. That's all I see in this argument. Because at the point in time when he said 'this wagon sucks" and threw his vote away, there was nothing he could do. It's not fair to criticize him for his actions at that point. How could he have NOT wasted his vote?? His scumreads look fine to me. Bhaal was straight up lying about his real identity. He was acting like a newb who hadn't played since 2013. He was pretty clearly LS who is not a newb and has played many games since 2013. I see a lot of scum motivation behind pretending you're a newb when you're not. | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
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keanuisgod
271 Posts
On February 12 2016 22:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: So you are calling him scummy for not pushing his lynch harder. That's all I see in this argument. Because at the point in time when he said 'this wagon sucks" and threw his vote away, there was nothing he could do. It's not fair to criticize him for his actions at that point. How could he have NOT wasted his vote?? His scumreads look fine to me. Bhaal was straight up lying about his real identity. He was acting like a newb who hadn't played since 2013. He was pretty clearly LS who is not a newb and has played many games since 2013. I see a lot of scum motivation behind pretending you're a newb when you're not. The point is what he HAS NOT done up until that point. He proved his activity throughout the day by making some (irregular) posts here and there. Yes, if THE ONLY thing he had done in the day is appear 15 minutes before the deadline, there would not be much to do. But he had like 24 hours instead (let's say, between where the "Joking" and "No Content" phase ended and when D1 ended). If I disagree with a wagon, I have an alternative candidate, and I am active 2 hours before deadline I'd try to push said lynch throughout that time. But well, whatever, agree to disagree, at least for the moment. | ||
Mr Darcy
73 Posts
Anyway. Onward with trying to think about inactivity plagued game... | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
He is tunneled on saitama but it never goes anwywhere. If he has a scumread, why not push that lynch? He never communicated why he doesn't want to push a saitama lynch. Actually what he's doing looks like high level nitpicking. He is pointing little stuff wrong with what saitama is saying, but never actually connecting it to saitama being scum.. | ||
keanuisgod
271 Posts
On February 12 2016 00:24 GargamelxD wrote: im sure who valdiano is but might be a pro impostor, kinda doubt it though. the player is town I'm kind of interested in Garga's smurfhunting here though. You make a town read on Valdi based on smurhunting, and a seemingly strong one to boot. Care to tell us who you think Valdiano is, and why that makes him town? | ||
keanuisgod
271 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 11 2016 01:02 Valdiano wrote: this post is difficult to understand. if I understand it correctly this is a bad post. On February 11 2016 01:14 Valdiano wrote: so there's a few things I don't like about this reading your filter or that I don't understand. You are discussing the effects of nnn's scumhunting in this first quote but you are dismissing it as banter. what makes you think this presumably isn't alignment indicative? On February 11 2016 23:19 Valdiano wrote: on page 11, looking at the so-called lurker filters as well. can someone help me with understanding saita's posts or does anyone else think they might be scummy? first, I read the keanu case and saita's reactions to it on page 11. first, like a few people said, honestly for day 1 play, I saw keanu's case as furthering discussion, which is a towny trait. nothing inherently scummy about presenting the ideas and wanting to get more information out of a player who has given him some doubt for his alignment. also was explicitly stated "best lead I've got." I look at saita's subsequent posts discussing backdoors. If town discusses the case and decide it's not worth merit, that's great, you can always drop it. pushing a case beyond reasonable discussion I'd say is scummy but that's not what I saw happening here. his posts bottom of page 10/top page 11 made it look to me like he was trying to push that unreasonably. also why it is impossible for good towns to possibly be wrong on "bad towns"? it seems like he (saita) was completely excluding that possibility. then in post 204 he's saying he cannot see a town motive for it yet he sees the reason (it could be town???) I'm still struggling to find how saita is making that case sound like it's exclusively scummy when it's clear he's trying to at least get a reaction from his target that will clarify things. to me, saita just looks bad. am I missing something here? post 204/206 seem to be addressing completely conflicting points - even suggesting that Keanu is town, he's suggesting he's wasting space or still questioning why he has to explicitly state that, as if doing so was scummy. On February 11 2016 23:24 Valdiano wrote: another point that I feel needs some clarification - this sounds like mindmeld to me, which people from their perspective, view as towny, so why is he still null? just wondering. also if you can further discuss saita, that might be great. he's the one active player I'm having difficulty understanding. On February 11 2016 01:06 Valdiano wrote: doublechecked saita's filter to make sure I didn't miss anything from conversation but there's nothing alignment indicative from it that could have applied to that last post. although I do get an impression of posting just to post, reading his filter. there were opportunities I think in 1-2 posts where he could have taken a stance on nnn/war going to say a scumlean for now. Can you give us the evolution of your read on saitama? Throughout D1 you make comments about him, ask him questions, keep sayin you "can't understand him", but you drop the "going to say a scumlean for now" read in the middle, which feels out of place, since the rest of your posts seem to indicate you actually being null on him. | ||
nnn_thekushmountains
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