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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 01:29 GMT
#41
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.

This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.

Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.

The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.

This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.

The hosts have raped me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 01:33 GMT
#42
Like seriously. I'm wearing revealing clothing but that does not mean I asked for this.
[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 01:33 GMT
#43
On January 15 2016 10:04 Trfel wrote:
/out


Where is your passion?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 01:37 GMT
#44
Fellow victims, join me in:

The Arseholetin Victim Support Group

1. Holyflare





If you too are a victim of this savage hosting technique reach out to me for support.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 15 2016 01:44 GMT
#45
On January 15 2016 10:29 Holyflare wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encounter in day to day work.

This is a story about consent and the lack thereof.

Consent is the permission for something to take place. Commonly consent is used in regards to a sexual nature and lack of consent leads to a charge called rape.

The serious thing about consent is that it can be given or taken away at ANY time and equally importantly if you consent ONCE it does not mean you consent EVERY time.

This is where the game falls flat. I consented to be in one game and theorised that because I am so good and have little time that I will either roll town and die n1 or roll mafia and have an afk excuse. Now, that game I consented to is gone and in this game the days don't align with me and I'm just not feeling the sexual arousal needed so you did not have my consent.

The hosts have raped me.


[image loading]
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 01:51 GMT
#46
I applaud the nature of the players of this game. There is no better way to stick it to the man (Arseholetanis shit) than by boycotting the game with silence. I should add you all to my list for being the bravest recruits I ever did see.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 02:02 GMT
#47
Let me tell you a story about something I encountered yesterday.

This is a story about a man and his pride.

Pride in this sense is being used for its negative meaning. Commonly pride can be used to refer to a sense of satisfaction or attachment to something, but not in this case. Rather we are using it in the sense of an inflated sense of self.

The serious thing about pride is that it can cause someone to make irrational decisions or decisions that have much larger consequences out of a misplaced sense of the situation.

This is where yesterday falls flat. As Aristotle taught us, pride can be both a virtue and a vice. As such marv rolled an alignment that he felt uncomfortable playing as, and rather than acquiesce to the powers at be he stood up for what he believed was right and what he had pride for: his town play. He refused to be forced to bend to the whims of an RNG machine for the amusement of others.

The hosts punished marv for being virtuous.

#FreeMarv
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 02:04 GMT
#48
Fellow believers, support me in:

The Free Virtuous Marv Petition:
1. ritoky




If you too feel that men and women should not be punished for being virtuous reach out to me for support.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 03:19 GMT
#49
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 03:20 GMT
#50
On January 15 2016 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
Are you not planning on continuing the game?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 03:59 GMT
#51
Meh, here goes nothing.

AlotSomuch is town

On January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair
I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation.

ritoky is mafia

Ritoky's play doesn't make much sense from a town perspective. He seems to be very disinterested in the game, instead of enjoying it, while implying that he's a bit involved. He's very willing to engage in banter, and answers questions about the game, but he doesn't do anything at all to further the game.
+ Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 15 2016 09:18 ritoky wrote:
a former oregon coach is now the coach of the dumpster fire 49ers; finally i can consolihate. great day.
He completely ignored all of the thread at the time. I would have expected him as town to directly address Damdred.
On January 15 2016 09:59 Damdred wrote:
People having 0 respect for a game going on basically. Hf will swap but if you aren't oh the players list just not right.

Anyway rit what do you think of say hf? More than likely town?
On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him.
On January 15 2016 11:02 ritoky wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encountered yesterday.

This is a story about a man and his pride.

Pride in this sense is being used for its negative meaning. Commonly pride can be used to refer to a sense of satisfaction or attachment to something, but not in this case. Rather we are using it in the sense of an inflated sense of self.

The serious thing about pride is that it can cause someone to make irrational decisions or decisions that have much larger consequences out of a misplaced sense of the situation.

This is where yesterday falls flat. As Aristotle taught us, pride can be both a virtue and a vice. As such marv rolled an alignment that he felt uncomfortable playing as, and rather than acquiesce to the powers at be he stood up for what he believed was right and what he had pride for: his town play. He refused to be forced to bend to the whims of an RNG machine for the amusement of others.

The hosts punished marv for being virtuous.

#FreeMarv
On January 15 2016 11:04 ritoky wrote:
Fellow believers, support me in:

The Free Virtuous Marv Petition:
1. ritoky




If you too feel that men and women should not be punished for being virtuous reach out to me for support.

Mocking Holyflare doesn't do anything to move the game forward, and isn't really funny, either. Ritoky doesn't try to actually get involved or talk to anyone.

The clincher is this post:
On January 15 2016 09:57 ritoky wrote:
wat the fuck is going on?
Which indicates a surprise of the state of the game. Ritoky doesn't seem to be enjoying the game, as his posts feel very uninspired and flat. Yet he doesn't do anything to further the game. This post:
On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him.
suggests that ritoky is thinking about reads this game, but doesn't follow Damdred's lead to get the game started at all.

##vote ritoky
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:10 GMT
#52
On January 15 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
Are you not planning on continuing the game?

what's the point when Holyflare has basically confirmed his alignment?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 04:17 GMT
#53
On January 15 2016 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
On January 15 2016 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
Are you not planning on continuing the game?

what's the point when Holyflare has basically confirmed his alignment?
Has he? I really wouldn't say that.

Holyflare is more than willing to make ridiculous lies as mafia.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:18 GMT
#54
Yeah so like he is telling the truth and he is town --> in which case the game is invalid.

Or he is mafia --> in which case we should 100% lynch him.

Soooo... in any way, the game is invalid.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 04:21 GMT
#55
On January 15 2016 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah so like he is telling the truth and he is town --> in which case the game is invalid.

Or he is mafia --> in which case we should 100% lynch him.

Soooo... in any way, the game is invalid.
I guess I have enough faith in humanity to think that Holyflare will allow the game to proceed normally and participate in an acceptable manner (even if not in his normal fashion).
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:22 GMT
#56
Although i would be perfectly willing to play the game 9vs3 and remove HF. But then again now i think you, Trfel, are scum because of your argument on HF and the lack of thinking on the matter and that is out of game WIFOM case and that's also invalid.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 04:25 GMT
#57
On January 15 2016 13:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Although i would be perfectly willing to play the game 9vs3 and remove HF. But then again now i think you, Trfel, are scum because of your argument on HF and the lack of thinking on the matter and that is out of game WIFOM case and that's also invalid.
It only shows that out-of-game WIFOM isn't always correct.

I'm more than happy to disprove you in time, tunnel me all you want.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 15 2016 04:36 GMT
#58
I mess people's names up all the time too. For example, I could have sworn that Palmar character used to be called Palmer.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 04:40 GMT
#59
Ace, raynpelikoneet, any thoughts on my scumread of ritoky?

Which I'm actually kind of serious about. Really.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:42 GMT
#60
I think he is probably town because you are scum.
Now you are aggressive instead of involved.
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