EPTonly thing on the mod end is there probably should have been a pm sent to notify of the restart and say "plz respond within x time if you do not want to be in the restart" and maybe consider subbing hf there because of exigent circumstances, but overall i don't blame you and there wasn't much you could do about what happened, sometimes the mafia gods just fuck you over.
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
only thing on the mod end is there probably should have been a pm sent to notify of the restart and say "plz respond within x time if you do not want to be in the restart" and maybe consider subbing hf there because of exigent circumstances, but overall i don't blame you and there wasn't much you could do about what happened, sometimes the mafia gods just fuck you over. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On January 18 2016 19:19 VisceraEyes wrote: I do like though how rayn liess about me and when I call him out on it I'm being unreasonable. Real cool. someday i'm going to learn how to actually play this game, like, for real | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 18 2016 19:49 ObviousOne wrote: someday i'm going to learn how to actually play this game, like, for real You already know, you just think you don't. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Also hf pls so bad lynch me when afk on a weekend. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 18 2016 19:49 ObviousOne wrote: someday i'm going to learn how to actually play this game, like, for real I believe in you! | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 18 2016 21:34 sicklucker wrote: lol not even close GIVE THEM THE STATS ritoky cepiro goat and whoever else | ||
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AlotSomuch
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On January 18 2016 18:24 ritoky wrote: that was the least enjoyable experience i have had in a while, and i have a baby. LMAO Thank God this game was invitational. Can you imagine uncivilised people playing this? It would be a mess! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
hf never at any point contacted the mods about not wanting to play the game + obviously to us had time to both see that the game was restarting and at least see that he'd received a pm, if not actually read it we def prob should have sent out confirmation pms and i know that i at least will in the future regardless of how soon this was after the first game and the indisputable fact that every single one of you who was in both games would have still been playing d1 had the first game not been aborted. we should have taken into account the fact that some of you might have had motivation issues because of the first game nevertheless, there was NO REASON for ANYONE to assume that hf's complaints in thread were legitimate here. he is more than aware to contact the hosts if he has an issue rather than throwing a fit in-thread with the expectation that any mod action would be taken. this is a game of deception. the bleed over from the obs qt should never have happened, and although i'm not sure that people still wouldn't have been (incorrectly) confused there, it certainly didn't help simply put do not assume before a host posts that anything said in-thread is true. this is mafia. @.@ (also ftr lex still doesn't think we should have sent pms lol after looking this over to make sure my bitchiness is within acceptable levels) | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans. I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible. A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game. Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists. I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't. Let's not do too many of these in the future pls. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already. Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On January 18 2016 22:41 Palmar wrote: Ok warning, rambling rant. The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans. I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible. A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game. Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists. I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't. Let's not do too many of these in the future pls. Apart from this failure - how do you come to this conclusion? I think invite games are a pretty good (if not the only) solution if you are tired of people signing up and not playing the game because you cannot avoid those people otherwise. For example (and I don't think using this one is mean): if coag signs up for a game I immediately think twice about joining it - not because I hate him or anything but because I know he will be dead weight regardless of his alignment. You can't realistically keep him from joining because wisdom of the crowds is not really a thing. So you have to pray he doesn't join the games you want to play in. Sure there might be problems when people have an ego and aren't invited but you have to keep in mind that the one who organizes the game is in charge of the invites (and rightfully so) so the choice of players will always be subjective. This is not an "official TL game for the best players". This is a round of mafia someone decided to organize to have a game with the people he wants to play with. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On January 18 2016 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Of course you should, I only agreed to replace into the first game because it was starting and I was asked to /in last second. If it could have been that you got more people for a reroll I would have gone on the replacement list again. I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already. Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people. hf will you address your bads pls it's very important 2 me | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On January 18 2016 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Of course you should, I only agreed to replace into the first game because it was starting and I was asked to /in last second. If it could have been that you got more people for a reroll I would have gone on the replacement list again. I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already. Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people. This kind of speculation is not modconfirming anyone as town by any means. You're speculating whether I would've posted it if you were mafia or town; I would've in either case. The reason I posted it was to prevent people from outside the game from continuing to post inside the game. As for requesting bans for them, I feel that's way out of proportion. This game has been such a mess that the only ban I'm requesting is for Rayn due to posting his role PM which isn't close to being a gray area/excusable. | ||
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