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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:17 GMT
#950
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:17 GMT
#951
Superbia what do you think of Breshke ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:20 GMT
#958
On January 20 2016 22:12 Rels wrote:
Vivax what was your second number ?

VA => same question
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:24 GMT
#962
So. The people that took other people numbers:

Cephiro (3,2) took Koshi (3,1) => claim here => no explanation as to why he scumread Koshi ? And it doesn't make sense it didn't pick 3,1; by picking 3,2, he knew Koshi was going before him, so he cannot deny him a role if he thinks he's scum => probably scum
Vivax (4, X) took kita (4,1) => claim here => kita's attacking him is baseless, but why no target someone else that attacked him ? => maybe scum
Onegu (6,1) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he wanted to mess with SL, but I didn't find any reason he scumread him ? At least he picked 6,1 so it makes sense with the "deny" mentality => slight scumlean
The Shining (6,3) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he warned before deadline and SL wanted to change but failed => not a targeted attack
TT (8,1) took disfo (8,1) => claim here => tone read on disfo, picked 8,1 so he could have the chance to deny disfo a role so it makes sense => maybe town
FF (9,6) took Damdred (9,19) => claim here => meta scumread on Damdred and assuring to pick before Damdred => good read on a strong player, probably town
VA (11,X) took AlotSomuch (11,1) => claim here => no explanation => good read though, maybe town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:27 GMT
#963
On January 20 2016 22:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
Superbia what do you think of Breshke ?


Meh. I kind of liked him questioning my question but that's literally all I liked. Prob slight scum-lean.

He's almost only joking or setup talking. A few townreads, no scumreads. Now he wants to take watson; and watson is a super good role.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:31 GMT
#966
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.

OK scum can suicide with the gambler if he votes the gambler. But that's good; 1v1 is good for town. The best thing that could happen is that both gambler and the target are scums, they are assured to not be together.
The target needs to be someone we would lynch otherwise, 'cause he has a good chance to die all things considered.
The target's vote target needs to be a good player we suspect is scum, 'cause it's a free check on them.
Good plan all things considered (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:33 GMT
#967
Alright getting back to work, I'm so late ... I'm kinda around if interesting things are being discussed.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:40 GMT
#969
Vivax what was your second number ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:41 GMT
#972
On January 20 2016 22:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:40 Rels wrote:
Vivax what was your second number ?


2

Why not 1 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 13:44 GMT
#973
On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote:
I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake.

kita 4,1 you 4,1 had 50/50% chance on both of you getting places 10/11
kita 4,1 you 4,2 had 100% on kita getting place 10 and you getting place 11
Obiously you didn't know the place number, but the principle is still the same for any placement
I don't understand what you seeked to achieve by taking 4,2 instead of 4,1 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:17 GMT
#982
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:19 GMT
#984
On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?

You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:21 GMT
#986
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?

Talking about this post:
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote:
It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify.

but yeah couple town leans at this point.

Since you didn't state them, can you expand ?


I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think.

I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see

I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me.


Yep derp soz

Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya

Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:32 GMT
#992
On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:21 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?

Talking about this post:
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote:
It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify.

but yeah couple town leans at this point.

Since you didn't state them, can you expand ?


I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think.

I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see

I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me.


Yep derp soz

Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya

Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post.


No, I was telling you that you might be overlapping

Yep and that seemed like a kinda useless way to post, and your filter feels exactly this way.

On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?

You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role.


Why is the bolded included in this post. You disagree with yourself in the same sentence what's the point?

Yep I was thinking loudly. I'm OK with you having Watson actually, since you can't lie about sanity if you're scum and that's a big part of the role.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:53 GMT
#1017
On January 20 2016 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?


this is just mafia salt

=D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 16:08 GMT
#1033
On January 21 2016 00:17 disformation wrote:
Will read that gambler stuff again later. Need to step out and do some rl stuff.

Have a difficult time forming reads so far, since most of the discussion is focused on setup, numbers and roles. IMO most of that stuff is pretty NAI as it can come from both sides.

Some of my notes:
  • Vivax
    Didn't like his entry. Fairly angry. Could be scum.
  • Tictock
    Liked him starting to figure out alignments eary, didn't like how uncooperative he was later on. Biased cause he ninjaed my numbers. Is a lemon-tree.
  • Rels
    Liked some of his posts. E.g. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501883-pick-your-power-intriguing?page=49#962 . The capslock Dreamflower episode seemed a tad forced though.
  • Superbia
    Still think he is town.
  • Koshi
    Still think he is town.
  • Damdred
    hasn't done his special town thing I like to town read him for.
  • Palmar
    Eh. Yeah, could probably do this as scum, but I am not really sure I can see this. So town lean. At the very least he can be my Führer for now.

Also tons of ppl I can't really remember what they have done/posted so far. Should look at those, when the game starts for real.

Why did you force the "capslock episode" forced ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 16:10 GMT
#1034
On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote:
Let me know what role to pick. I'm at work but have internet access all through the day, just won't be on every minute. I'm not going to be a high volume poster and I have trouble telling alot of you apart right now, as the names just blur together on my readthroughs. I also don't have much experience with multiple mafia teams, especially at such a high ratio, so like someone said, I'm assuming for 1/3 posters is posting with mafia motivation. I admit I don't have much to contribute at this point since I don't have any ideas which people are being difficult for reasons and which are doing it because they are stubborn/really just want to be a certain role.

Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust.

Hey Koshi! Can you think of a dream role for our young flower here ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 16:22 GMT
#1039
On January 21 2016 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 01:08 Rels wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:17 disformation wrote:
Will read that gambler stuff again later. Need to step out and do some rl stuff.

Have a difficult time forming reads so far, since most of the discussion is focused on setup, numbers and roles. IMO most of that stuff is pretty NAI as it can come from both sides.

Some of my notes:
  • Vivax
    Didn't like his entry. Fairly angry. Could be scum.
  • Tictock
    Liked him starting to figure out alignments eary, didn't like how uncooperative he was later on. Biased cause he ninjaed my numbers. Is a lemon-tree.
  • Rels
    Liked some of his posts. E.g. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501883-pick-your-power-intriguing?page=49#962 . The capslock Dreamflower episode seemed a tad forced though.
  • Superbia
    Still think he is town.
  • Koshi
    Still think he is town.
  • Damdred
    hasn't done his special town thing I like to town read him for.
  • Palmar
    Eh. Yeah, could probably do this as scum, but I am not really sure I can see this. So town lean. At the very least he can be my Führer for now.

Also tons of ppl I can't really remember what they have done/posted so far. Should look at those, when the game starts for real.

Why did you force the "capslock episode" forced ?

he's not wrong you were a little bit overexcited.

But then again, maybe you simply were really excited

Wait you townread me because I was excited, but now you're saying that disfo is right saying I was overexcited. Explain ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 17:00 GMT
#1054
Going home, see you all later!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 17:00 GMT
#1055
On January 21 2016 02:00 Cephiro wrote:
I also think someone town should snipe Captain Malcolm Reynolds, will be pretty fucking hard to kill whichever mafia team drafts that one?

I'm drafting that one.
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