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helps them keep their team alive in the NK warfare between scum teams
Actually thinking about this more, to some extent scum kinda wants to do their thing during the day phase just as much as at night right?
Why not do some legit scum hunting (looking for the other team) while getting the towncred when you get it right.
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On January 23 2016 00:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 12:11 disformation wrote:On January 22 2016 12:03 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed): + Show Spoiler [role list] +
1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey
Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. Cool, so did I. My position hasn't changed. 4 am not sober have tlake with a close friend for like 4hours straight. will not decide now. there are two posttibilites a= imma just lynch you for annyoing me v) imma say fuck roles and just lynch the guy i think is the most likely to flip scum. still might be you but i think vivianx is still more scummy. also random note. despite saying that maybe we should stop talking about roles and mechanics and ocus and flwoer s we still end up talking only about roles and mechanics and picks again... Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: Show nested quote +It takes a long while before you understand how meta actually even works. You see, meta is a trap. You think it's a beautiful Asian chick in those amazing school girl outfits with the typical anime hair. Then you realize it's not a chick at all and you done fucked up. Trust me,[...] Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that.  Also you can be annoying town.
Earlier you kinda agreed with my read on you ( said you understood where my "too agreeable" point was comeing from) now you dismiss my argument with "meta is bad"
Why does me being bad and useing meta mean I'm town but me sniping your number pick and refusing to reviel my role make me mafia?
I think your just surface level reacting and trying to difuse my arguments about you without really adressing things.
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On January 23 2016 03:13 Koshi wrote:
So are there actually reasons why we are keeping Onegu alive or do we just want to kill Vivax who has given reads that can only be "as wrong" as literally anybody else who has been playing this game and keep people like Onegu alive who misread me town when I am mafia and misread Palmar when he is obvious town?
Seriously. You can't argue with this logic.
On January 23 2016 03:14 Koshi wrote:
Fuck I slipped. ggnore
I'm not sure I can ignore or just write this off, feels like a genuine "Oh Fuck" to me. Anyone else care to comment?
I'm also really not sure I care to lynch Onegu just kus Vivax is posting a bunch of quick reads. Though I will admit it's made me a little less sure about Vivax.
I think there are better lynches if we are going the route of letting Vivax lemming it up next phase.
Honestly I just find it far more likely that mafia lied about their pick if they snagged an anti-town role. Why would you not claim and draw attn to yourself if you made the effort to snag a role that would help your team?
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On January 23 2016 03:56 Vivax wrote:
Reading Rels filter is hilarious cause he posts useless questions that lead to nowhere in regular intervals, it's such a shiny pattern it hurts my eyes.
Can you tell us what made you call him "the towniest fucker in here" during the picking phases then?
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So tbh I think I'd still preffer Vivax out of Onegu/Vivax/geript, but I'm not sure.
I'm not sure why nobody cares to talk about Koshi literally claiming scum?
On January 23 2016 04:08 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:13 Koshi wrote:
So are there actually reasons why we are keeping Onegu alive or do we just want to kill Vivax who has given reads that can only be "as wrong" as literally anybody else who has been playing this game and keep people like Onegu alive who misread me town when I am mafia and misread Palmar when he is obvious town?
Seriously. You can't argue with this logic. I'm not sure I can ignore or just write this off, feels like a genuine "Oh Fuck" to me. Anyone else care to comment?
I'm also pretty disappointed this was the last thing we heard from Damdred. (and it was right at the start of this phase)
On January 21 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm just joking I'm normal doctor.
Now I'll start getting reads formatively anyway
I'm gunna vote Diformation since he has been a consistant scumread of mine and I'm not impressed that after our last exchange he's writing me off as town while saying I'm being bad for using meta and just ignores the rest of what I was saying.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 12:11 disformation wrote:On January 22 2016 12:03 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed): + Show Spoiler [role list] +
1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey
Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. Cool, so did I. My position hasn't changed. 4 am not sober have tlake with a close friend for like 4hours straight. will not decide now. there are two posttibilites a= imma just lynch you for annyoing me v) imma say fuck roles and just lynch the guy i think is the most likely to flip scum. still might be you but i think vivianx is still more scummy. also random note. despite saying that maybe we should stop talking about roles and mechanics and ocus and flwoer s we still end up talking only about roles and mechanics and picks again... Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. On January 23 2016 00:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 12:11 disformation wrote:On January 22 2016 12:03 Tictock wrote:On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed): + Show Spoiler [role list] +
1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey
Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is. Cool, so did I. My position hasn't changed. 4 am not sober have tlake with a close friend for like 4hours straight. will not decide now. there are two posttibilites a= imma just lynch you for annyoing me v) imma say fuck roles and just lynch the guy i think is the most likely to flip scum. still might be you but i think vivianx is still more scummy. also random note. despite saying that maybe we should stop talking about roles and mechanics and ocus and flwoer s we still end up talking only about roles and mechanics and picks again... Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: Show nested quote +It takes a long while before you understand how meta actually even works. You see, meta is a trap. You think it's a beautiful Asian chick in those amazing school girl outfits with the typical anime hair. Then you realize it's not a chick at all and you done fucked up. Trust me,[...] Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that. Also you can be annoying town.
##Vote: Disformation
I'd appreciate if people could take one more look at Disinfo as well as Damdred and tell me how beautiful of a flower I am for wanting to lynch them right now.
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Aw fuck, I was forgetting that this is majority.
Was thinking a couple of hours to consider shenannies/other wagons would be good.
I do think Dis is likely scum, but I'm like 70% on him being scum so not that strong.
Vivax is an ok lynch then. I'll consolidate.
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On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around.
I'm sorta around. Least checking in.
Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax.
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On January 23 2016 07:31 Keirathi wrote:
Oh wait, I suck at timestamps. (I actually didn't realize you could see exact timestamps).
The post he claimed lemmin in was 9:11am CST. The 6th vote from Rels was 9:41am CST.
This might be interesting if Vivax flips the guy.
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On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ?
Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me?
If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect.
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On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ?
Yes
and kinda no. More null
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Paranoid thought though, what if SL has just been leading us on with the assertion that Artorias got picked to push people to claim?
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What happened to your internet?
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On January 23 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ? Yes and kinda no. More null Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong. Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ?
I was disappointed in your response.
If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off?
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On January 23 2016 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Yeah now people want to lynch onegu. But when I asked for it nobody gave 2 shits, but when Vivax is on 21 votes, all 21 want to vote Onegu.
This is true so why did you just post this?
On January 23 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
inb4 people are calling vigshots on Onegu the entire game because he is "unreadable".
Onegu This is a promise. I will nuke the first person that wants to fucking lynch or vig you.
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On January 23 2016 08:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 08:02 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:53 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:
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I'm sorta around. Least checking in.
Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ? Yes and kinda no. More null Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong. Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ? I was disappointed in your response. If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off? Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ? That doesn't make sense. You scumread me for not responding to points, while not thinking the points make kita scum. TT can you explain this ? Cause I'm not seeing the logic there.
Yea for some reason you think my read on Kita matters for those things.
I don't get it either.
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On January 23 2016 08:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
well whatever vivax is he aint helping town he can die Yeah he only have 7 townreads and 5 scumreads or something.
Good thing it's the number of reads that matters.
Like if anyone should actually post a read on all 22 players I think we have to declare them the winner and give them a pass out of the game, right?
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On January 23 2016 09:03 Rels wrote:Now for this: am I getting lost in logical problems that don't matter, or is it legit ? Cause I feel TT needed a reason to scurmead me and created this one: Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 08:33 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 08:13 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 08:02 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:53 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:
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can you answer the question ? Yes and kinda no. More null Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:
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Pretty sure you're wrong. Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ? I was disappointed in your response. If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off? Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ? That doesn't make sense. You scumread me for not responding to points, while not thinking the points make kita scum. TT can you explain this ? Cause I'm not seeing the logic there. Yea for some reason you think my read on Kita matters for those things. I don't get it either. If YOU think Palmar's points make you kita null, WHY THE FUCK does me thinking these points don't make kita scum amkes ME scum ?
You are a giant Sunflower.
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On January 23 2016 09:04 sicklucker wrote:
did tt ever claim his mc role?
I didn't claim but here is a clue.
7 is not such a lucky number.
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It's probably too easy but I think Vivax's team has a real chance of being Koshi/Vayne/+1 possibly Damdred.
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