So your right about super or what I think is more likely. The shining doing the only thing he can do jumping on and hoping we lynch super.
Shining really has no other way to win as scum other then to do that you realize?
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So your right about super or what I think is more likely. The shining doing the only thing he can do jumping on and hoping we lynch super. Shining really has no other way to win as scum other then to do that you realize? | ||
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On February 04 2016 06:16 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2016 06:09 sicklucker wrote: If ticktock is town its because he preemptively made this theory without knowing what the nks would be. It kind of makes sense for him ot keep going with tihs theory even if there some holes in it because "the nk proved him right in his mind" right? he predicted it right? why would a town ever waver after that This would fall apart in the case on me being scum with Cake though. Kus then I have all the knowledge I need to make that post. I'm not scum though, so God Reads! Also just kus, I also made these god reads D3. Show nested quote + On January 27 2016 14:08 Tictock wrote: Ok so... started this expecting to just make a simple list post but since the game is at a manageable size now I'll give you all more of my thinking. Remember, you asked for this. I'm pretty sure these people are town: 13. Koshi (+ Show Spoiler + Initial read was town, got worried based off EoD1 and him roleblocking me solely because I started scumreading him, EoD2 and varies interactions have me pretty sold on him being town. D2 should pretty much prove Koshi as town, only tinfoil left is if he was scum with FF and bussed him 15. The Shining (+ Show Spoiler + not sure I have really solid reasoning, so I could be wrong. but he convinced me early on that his mindset was towny. I'd prob only review if presented a good case on him 17. sicklucker (+ Show Spoiler + gave reasoning before, lots of things make me think he's town though These people might not be town, but are definitely not good lynches today 21. CopCake (+ Show Spoiler + gut/meta read says town. Shoveled GB upon request. It may not be super strong, but I think her role would be optimal for scum later in the game to help her team. So using it like this makes it unlikely she had a real agenda for her role. 22. Palmar (+ Show Spoiler + Has been pretty pro town, and sorta an ass while doing it. Oh yea also he did a good job finding scum D1 12. Superbia (+ Show Spoiler + Honestly I'm not sure and I've been doubting my initial townread on him since he took CPRDoc and started dropping off. His shots on VA and me don't look very good to me either, it's like he's only shooting low hanging fruit. I've played with him when he was Vig and his play was a lot different (his filter that game) but idk how strong that is given the vast setup differences. I left him in this section because even if he is mafia he should be trying to hit other mafia, which makes him more of a threat to mafia than to town. 5. Keirathi ( + Show Spoiler + I doubt scum fakes that spreadsheet thing he did, though as I'm typing I have to wonder why he waited till N2 to share it. If he gave up on it early why not just share it then? Ehh checking timestamps it seems pretty impossible that he faked that in response to what was going on at the time, and if your gunna preplan something like that I think you'd just make some real effort into the current gamestate not shit from preD1. So there, it's even tinfoil proof. Oh also there's other stuff but I feel like I used all my space here. Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this. 1. disformation (+ Show Spoiler + Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR. Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk. At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads. 3. Rels (+ Show Spoiler + I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things. Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for 4. Onegu (+ Show Spoiler + honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too. This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot" I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down. So yea, feeling pretty good about where my head has been at this game. Yes I did see this post and I had a hard time putting you on a scum team because of it and decided your town | ||
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So you were roleblocked and could not have delivered kp. So you are town moving on | ||
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reading some more probably supers filter again to remind me hes probably town | ||
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On February 04 2016 06:30 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2016 06:28 sicklucker wrote: Shining and super really need to batlle it out here. I do have the hammer you know.. reading some more probably supers filter again to remind me hes probably town Lol you are waffling all over the place. Do what you need to do but I'm sure TT is right and so am I. And Super ditched the thread right when I got to work and started posting more. So Idk what I'm supposed to battle out here. of all the players in the game I have the smallest read on you so maybe you should help me out since I have to decide the game? | ||
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On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote: The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum. If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon. | ||
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On February 02 2016 20:30 Tictock wrote: Lol yea. There is always the chance that I'm off the mark here still. Even at this stage of the game there is a ton of moving pieces and I'm sure I'm missing or not properly accounting for something. The only thing that worries me a little is that I've been fairly adamant about TRing SL and TS and if I've been wrong one of you could be trying to take advantage of that. Still though I really think Kita/Rels/Dis/Cake was a team, and I have fairly good reasons to think SL and TS were not on a team with Onegu while having some evidence of associations between Super and FF/Onegu. I'm also not sure why nobody shot Super if he is town. i agree that it was rels/dis/cake vs ff/onegu and one of super and the shining. super makes sense but why cant it be the shining? They both took 6.1 from me and purposely tanked there number pick | ||
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On February 02 2016 22:59 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote: You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot. I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed. you never really tried to do this tho i think? | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:18 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote: On February 02 2016 20:30 Tictock wrote: Lol yea. There is always the chance that I'm off the mark here still. Even at this stage of the game there is a ton of moving pieces and I'm sure I'm missing or not properly accounting for something. The only thing that worries me a little is that I've been fairly adamant about TRing SL and TS and if I've been wrong one of you could be trying to take advantage of that. Still though I really think Kita/Rels/Dis/Cake was a team, and I have fairly good reasons to think SL and TS were not on a team with Onegu while having some evidence of associations between Super and FF/Onegu. I'm also not sure why nobody shot Super if he is town. i agree that it was rels/dis/cake vs ff/onegu and one of super and the shining. super makes sense but why cant it be the shining? They both took 6.1 from me and purposely tanked there number pick What's the logic behind the rels/dis/cake team? rels kind of defended dis. rels said "one left" which kind of makes sense if he was with cake. look at me now? Theres one left and im not that sure =] | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:22 The Shining wrote: Battle Of The Drams. Me, you, Rels. We conceded. I did absolutely nothing that game and the second I was scummed, I afkd. I'm flattered if you think I can magically change that from one scum game to the next. oh i thought shining posted that | ||
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On February 04 2016 07:28 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote: On February 04 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote: On February 02 2016 22:59 Superbia wrote: On February 02 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote: You literraly have put zero effort into helping me figure out which one of them is the last mafia. Your like oh haha lets kill both. Well we can only kill one because we are probably sleeping My best play is to convince the town between them to stop being an idiot. I'm going to talk to both of them when they get back, but I think TT went to bed. you never really tried to do this tho i think? I honestly tried with TT. The Shining is a brick wall. I usually am when I think I know who the last scum is in endgame. In 3 different endgames, I've cased 3 scum and gotten 2 of them lynched and won. Was NKd and someone threw the other, but I cased the right one. Here, I haven't had the time to make a case but my conviction is no less certain. but this game every dead townie called super scum? you should probably try a little harder? palmer specifically said to lynch you in this sitation over me or super. He was even more sure super was town then me | ||
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