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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 14:01 GMT
#5178
And through conversation I will probably figure out who the mafia is. Decently sure it's the shining because TT seems to be convinced of what he's saying. Though what he's saying is dumb, so I need him to explain his thought process behind it.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 14:02 GMT
#5180
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
Like do you shoot? do you hold it? you need a plan b


We'll go into the night with me confirmed town and we can discuss my shot. I'll likely shoot because I have 0 confidence in the town to make the right decision tbh.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 14:03 GMT
#5181
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
I sapose you never hold it because then it will be lylo with you / shining /tt and were at square one


Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 14:03 GMT
#5182
On February 02 2016 23:03 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 23:01 sicklucker wrote:
I sapose you never hold it because then it will be lylo with you / shining /tt and were at square one


Nah incorrect. Mafia has to shoot me because I'll be confirmed because the game is not over.


So it'd be you/shining/tt
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 14:05 GMT
#5183
Back to work, I'll be half-lurking.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 20:13 GMT
#5196
The Shining/Tictock, please post.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5199
Tictock why do you think Rels and disfo were on the same team?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5201
Also it literally boggles my mind that you're defending someone in MYLO.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:32 GMT
#5202
That is so un-towny.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:35 GMT
#5205
Right. I want to talk to you and the shining both.

Just tell me the piece of logic as to why Rels and disfo are both town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:37 GMT
#5207
The fact that you are not suspicious of anyone but me is mindboggling. I simply cannot believe you're town if you're hard defending question marks in mylo for the only reason that you have a scum-read on me. Mylo town-set doesn't work like that.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:38 GMT
#5208
On February 03 2016 06:36 Tictock wrote:
Why the flower is it untowny anyways?

If I was scum I'd just jump on TS with you guys and ride the win.

Besides you have basically told me that you don't care kus you can shoot into the people you aren't convinced are town right now right?

Which from my PoV means you want me to lynch TS so you can shoot me tonight...


Nope, this is just complete WIFOM.

At the moment I want to lynch you and then see if I need to shoot TS.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:40 GMT
#5209
There is no possible scenario in which you are town. Town is never this convinced in mylo. You've put up a charade of "hmm maybe I should take a look at SL" but it's just a facade. If you were town you would be looking at everybody.

You came in today with a plan. Your post before the night reflected this. The fact that Palmar died over me in the night reflected this.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:44 GMT
#5211
On February 03 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 06:37 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are not suspicious of anyone but me is mindboggling. I simply cannot believe you're town if you're hard defending question marks in mylo for the only reason that you have a scum-read on me. Mylo town-set doesn't work like that.


And I'm supposed to believe that you are town because your role gives you a chance at shooting scum?

I'm supposed to be ok with your super flippant TR on SL and that all the shit I've done today only makes you think I'm scum? Yet you prefer to lynch TS still for ... what reasons now exactly?


I prefer to lynch you. I'm pretty convinced.

Explain how my TR on SL is flippant. Explain what you've done today that's townie? You haven't evaluated anything, all you've done is dug your tunnel deeper.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:58 GMT
#5213
On February 02 2016 17:53 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:26 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to sleep. I was making a post to prove your point wrong SL, but I really can't be bothered at this time in the night anymore. My logic is actually deteriorating as I post. I'm not sure if this is 100% correct anymore, I'm pretty sure it is though.

Basically it boils down to us having to sleep with me putting a KP on the shining if there's 1 kp (my cpr) during last night. Which would be super bad for mafia (especially if it's me, due to the fact that I have to to survive mafia kp that night as well) because town gets a free the shining lynch.

So mafia would have to take a huge risk during the night no-shooting.


Lets just assume I'm right for a second and look at last night if Super and Cake are mafia from differen't teams.

In this case Mafia has 3 KP when it is 4v2. Super with 2 KP and Cake with one.

Cake knows it's 50/50 chnace that she gets shot by Super over me (actually after my post on Cake last night it should have been fairly obviuse Cake was the only correct shot) but knows it's prob over, she likely decided to put KP out there. Which actually in this case it seems like Cake would have shot Super over Palmar. So either Cake decided Palmar was worth the longshot or she didn't bother to submit KP.

Super as mafia would def be trying his best to hit the remianing mafia. I think Cake is aruably the only real shot he can make so thats kinda locked in. Now in the off chance Cake is not mafia Super would prob not hold his KP just to make sure he hit the other mafia team, unless Super was almost positive that Cake is mafia. Then Super can either take out another town or, and here is where it gets interesting, hold his shot. Why hold his shot here? Well he knows Cake will be be shooting almost 100% of the time and unless she hits him both of them shooting, and a total of 3 KP going out, means it's final 3 today. So yes, Super holding his shot in that situation is benifitial due to 1) keeping one extra person in lylo to discuss 2) promoting WIFOM that either Cake was with the final mafia or that TS took the RB and lost a shot.

I'm rather sold this is the world due to the fact that I strongly feel that one team was Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake which means the final mafia is from team Vivax/Onegu/FF, which Super fits into rather nicely.




Now lets look at if I'm wrong and the teams are something like Rels/Dis/Kita/Vivax vs Onegu/Cake/FF/???

In this world there was only one mafia KP last night and they picked Palmar to kill even though Super said he was shooting Cake or me. In this case why does scum not Kill Super with no saves left on the table?

Also in this world, from Super's point of view, final mafia has to be me right?

TS was RB'd and Super seem pretty convinced that SL is town, so in this world to Super I am 100% mafia here, or he doesn't think Shining actually took the RB.

But even though Super is argueing that this is the world we live in he is not reaching this conclusion. He thinks TS or I are mafia but doesn't really care who kus he "has auto"

if he were town living in this world he should be wanting to verify that TS got RB'd, and then it should be easy for him to conclude that I must be scum with Cake.




So the conclusion here is that either Super is mafia or if he is town I should be basically confirmed mafia to him.

Thus I think we have to lynch either Super or myself today.

+ Show Spoiler +
Tried to put this down in words before and I didn't think it made any sense.

Hopefully after some sleep I was able to be coherent.


This post is so obviously bad. The entire premise is that I'm already mafia. Like it doesn't try to prove or analyze anything. The entire first part is literally "Those night actions could've happened if super was scum!".

Guess what you flower, those night actions could've happened if ANYONE was scum.

Not only that, it makes such gross assumptions that it's entirely irrelevant. If I'm mafia I'm expecting cake to be mafia and to shoot? Oh wait, what if GB is the mafia and I'm the only one left? Oh wait, what if cake holds her shot? Oh wait, what if someone else is mafia? Literally TUNNELVISION (Town does not tunnel vision in MYLO).

Let's explore the "non-superbia" world you paint. Somehow the premise completely changes. There's only 1 kp? You have to be mafia? Like why are you not looking at a world where copcake shot palmar and TS RB made it so there was only 1 KP? What if TS was on a team with copcake and copcake delivered the KP? What if SL was the mafia and held his shot? Nope. None of these worlds TT is evaluating. Why? Because TT is not town and TT came in today with a plan.

There is an absolutely obvious trend in all of your logic, TT. It's the fact that every single piece of logic hinges on the fact that I am already mafia. Tictock is not looking at the facts and evaluating. He's looking at a world of me already being mafia and stringing the pieces together from there.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 21:59 GMT
#5214
On February 03 2016 06:50 Tictock wrote:
So fucking lynch me, this day is becoming a headache for me.

Nobody can give me reasons why TS is mafia, Nobody cares to explain their Townreads. You are calling me scum for backing up my read on TS.

TS at least gave a decent reason why he TRs me and is willing to sheep, but has otherwise not really done much today and is just letting his vote hang out there.


Read my post just now and respond.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 22:00 GMT
#5216
SL I'm pretty convinced it's TT. Check out my posts on him.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 22:00 GMT
#5217
His mindset today is absolutely un-townie.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 22:02 GMT
#5219
Also the end "I think we have to lynch me or Superbia today" sounds townie, but it's the absolute opposite.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 02 2016 22:04 GMT
#5222
On February 03 2016 07:03 Tictock wrote:
Nah, lynch me. Lets get this over with so I can see if I'm right or being a dumb.


Incorrect answer as town.
Minimal effort.
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