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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
January 26 2016 19:42 GMT
#3641
And I actually after the kita flip and your actions I was like "yeahhhhhh he might be town after all" dont act like i didnt change my mind or what

you mafia that hit kita?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 26 2016 19:43 GMT
#3642
On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game


Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 26 2016 19:44 GMT
#3643
On January 27 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game


Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow.

What is this?
What is the point of writing that down dis?
Really?
Give me your complete or Copcake please.
Use a lot of words.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 26 2016 19:46 GMT
#3644
On January 27 2016 04:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:
On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game


Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow.

What is this?
What is the point of writing that down dis?
Really?
Give me your complete or Copcake please.
Use a lot of words.

Say please.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 26 2016 19:46 GMT
#3645
On January 27 2016 04:46 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:44 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:
On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game


Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow.

What is this?
What is the point of writing that down dis?
Really?
Give me your complete or Copcake please.
Use a lot of words.

Say please.

Nvm you actually did. xD
Give me a second.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
January 26 2016 19:47 GMT
#3646
Koshi is like

LOOK AT ME I AM SO TOWN BECAUSE I KILLED KITA

Look at me give me the glory

look at me i am so town

look at me, let me control town

look me look me i am da best.

When Palmar is the one that has been actually logical.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 26 2016 19:47 GMT
#3647
On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Are you actually expecting this to pan out and give us any real info?

It looks like a lot of work for the sake of looking like analysis to me.

And since it looks like you've already listed this in order of highest to lowest "activity rank" you can already see that Town and Mafia are mixed together pretty randomly which means this probably isn't a good heuristic.

So I highly disagree with your conclusion,
On January 26 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote:
My new theory, bunch of lazy townies bottom, bunch of active townies top.

Guess who's in the middle


I expect to find mafia sprinkled in all over your list there, there is actually 0 chance they are all clumped together in the middle.
I can take that responsibility.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 19:56 GMT
#3648
I keep trying to read filters and figure the game out, but I have no fucking clue, and Palmar killed me desire to keep playing.

Someone shoot me tonight, or just lynch me tomorrow please.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 26 2016 19:57 GMT
#3649
How did Palmar kill your desire to play?
I can take that responsibility.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 19:59 GMT
#3650
On January 27 2016 04:57 Tictock wrote:
How did Palmar kill your desire to play?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25334872
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 26 2016 20:00 GMT
#3651
On January 27 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote:
nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game


Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating

sorted by activity rating.

6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595
3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871
4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779
19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475
13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351
26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567
18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899
24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805
11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501
16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899
17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094
23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142
1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814
9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961
21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815
20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309
14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262
25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226
15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461
10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461
2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076
5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489



Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow.


not saying much
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 26 2016 20:01 GMT
#3652
my read(progression) on CopCake, shortish version:

At first I didn't like her because she seemed uncooperative (e.g. for not telling us her numbers) and was barely doing stuff.

When she ended up not even picking a role and came into the thread with a very fearless and "I don't give a flower" attitude, which I read as town, I backed off a bit. Put her into lemon-tree land for most of the time so far. Read that as: no clue, figure out later.

Since a bunch of time has passed and she still hasn't done much (would need to read filter to say more), I think she could very well be one of the remaining scummers, which is why I put her on the list of ppl I want to look at again tomorrow.

Still think there is at least one person way more scummy and I hope that person gets visited by nice ppl tonight.
Also didn't pay too much attention to a few ppl yet since I was very sure on Vivax D1 and we had a red check on FF D2. Lynching one scummer at a time.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 26 2016 20:01 GMT
#3653
And I am not saying much atm on purpose.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:07 GMT
#3654
I played with scum!Cake on vendetta-strada. She was way more...impactful?...there. Like she was proactively pushing reads, getting in fiths with people, etc. She played quite well. The only reason I caught her was because of the way she interacted with her other scum buddies, and she probably still could have won after I was lynched but she ended up forfeiting.

Basically I know Cake is very capable of tryharding as scum. It's hard to say if she's just scum here without time to play, or not very confident townie with not much time to play. I would tend to lean toward the latter, at this point, but not a lot of reasoning for it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 26 2016 20:09 GMT
#3655
On January 27 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:05 Tictock wrote:
On January 26 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
Like, not over the two dumbtells at the beginning of the game, the organizing town at a time where scum didn't care, the reaction test on someone that could have shot him instantly.


Uhh Kita just flipped scum and he tried to be very active in organizing town early on.

So clearly there were scum who at least cared to try and some who didn't.

As for SL though, I kinda think he's town.

Seems really weird that he'd quote a post that FF made calling Kita and me scum together and then get that mixed up thinking it was kita calling me scum with FF if SL is scum.

True, maybe the organizing town part is not worth much towncred.

Kita was undermining town organization
Computer says mafia
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 26 2016 20:13 GMT
#3656
On January 26 2016 20:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On January 26 2016 19:56 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2016 19:54 Koshi wrote:
This alot guy, anybody has meta on him? His tone is townish.

No. And he's either going to flip or scum with Shining so I don't care really. He was useless all game anyway, he said D1 he was waiting D2 for the player list to reduce in size before seriously playing; well, it didn't happen.

Why in gods name would they be mafia together? Also, can't this shot be docsaved and shit like that? What if Damdred is mafia and protects Alot?

Things that are 100% certain. Shining and Alot are not mafia together.

You really got some really flowerish reads sometimes rels. Totally wrong conclusions. Like the opposite of what it should be.

Scum doc never protects his partner there because of info + tracker. If alot survives and Shining is town, there is one confirmed doc that is scum => and for what ? Protect an useless player.
So if alot survives and since no doc would protect him, Shining is scum lying about his shot. OK it doesn't prove they're scum together, but alot is scum anyway for his play.


I didn't lie about my shot and no way we're scum together. And we def wouldnt be same team. Could you explain why as scum I wouldn't just nk him to avoid being accused of lying about my shot?

I can't because im not scum. Doh
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 26 2016 20:16 GMT
#3657
On January 27 2016 04:47 CopCake wrote:
Koshi is like

LOOK AT ME I AM SO TOWN BECAUSE I KILLED KITA

Look at me give me the glory

look at me i am so town

look at me, let me control town

look me look me i am da best.

When Palmar is the one that has been actually logical.

That doesn't make koshi any less town
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 26 2016 20:19 GMT
#3658
On January 27 2016 04:59 Keirathi wrote:
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On January 27 2016 04:57 Tictock wrote:
How did Palmar kill your desire to play?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25334872

At this point you're just using this as an excuse. So what, I failed a kill and got mad for half an hour.

Yes, I am relatively salty about people not wanting to do exactly as I say. I had the only comprehensive and good plan in town, I put a ton of work into getting it done, I delivered mafia on day 1 and delivered mafia on day 2. It is seriously annoying to deal with people who can't step back from their own ego.

For what it's worth, I would've loved it if someone actually did the organizing for me and I could just focus on scumhunting. But the only person who barely tried was clearly mafia and all he did was make my plan worse.

So yeah, if you're trying to use me getting mad for half an hour as an excuse to just not play the game that is pretty shit if you're town.
Computer says mafia
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 26 2016 20:20 GMT
#3659
On January 27 2016 05:07 Keirathi wrote:
I played with scum!Cake on vendetta-strada. She was way more...impactful?...there. Like she was proactively pushing reads, getting in fiths with people, etc. She played quite well. The only reason I caught her was because of the way she interacted with her other scum buddies, and she probably still could have won after I was lynched but she ended up forfeiting.

Basically I know Cake is very capable of tryharding as scum. It's hard to say if she's just scum here without time to play, or not very confident townie with not much time to play. I would tend to lean toward the latter, at this point, but not a lot of reasoning for it.


This matches up rather well with my (limited) experience with Cake.

Played with her as Town in the game Rayn semi-hosted but aborted and she seemed pretty similar to how she is in this game. So I've kinda been giving her a pass.

And fyi, saying you've lost your motivation to play because Palmar is an ass is pretty shitty. Ignore him if he's upsetting you that much. Don't use him as an excuse to afk.
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2016 20:24 GMT
#3660
On January 27 2016 05:13 The Shining wrote:
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On January 26 2016 20:05 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On January 26 2016 19:56 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2016 19:54 Koshi wrote:
This alot guy, anybody has meta on him? His tone is townish.

No. And he's either going to flip or scum with Shining so I don't care really. He was useless all game anyway, he said D1 he was waiting D2 for the player list to reduce in size before seriously playing; well, it didn't happen.

Why in gods name would they be mafia together? Also, can't this shot be docsaved and shit like that? What if Damdred is mafia and protects Alot?

Things that are 100% certain. Shining and Alot are not mafia together.

You really got some really flowerish reads sometimes rels. Totally wrong conclusions. Like the opposite of what it should be.

Scum doc never protects his partner there because of info + tracker. If alot survives and Shining is town, there is one confirmed doc that is scum => and for what ? Protect an useless player.
So if alot survives and since no doc would protect him, Shining is scum lying about his shot. OK it doesn't prove they're scum together, but alot is scum anyway for his play.


I didn't lie about my shot and no way we're scum together. And we def wouldnt be same team. Could you explain why as scum I wouldn't just nk him to avoid being accused of lying about my shot?

I can't because im not scum. Doh

Don't know didn't think of that. As scum I suppose you wouldn't waste a KP on alot though.
And no worries bro, we'll know about your shot soon enough. (=
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