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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:30 GMT
#261
But secret paladin is the most fun class to play!
D:
Retired.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 19 2016 00:30 GMT
#262
On January 19 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote:
Yay I think I have 2 town reads.

and we haven't even started the game proper

FYI I'm probably never saying what I pick. It may or may not be a number I throw out, and I'm not above tanking somebody's spot just kus.

Reads? Care to share who/why?

On January 19 2016 09:27 Superbia wrote:
I already have this game 10% solved.

Does that mean you have the alignment of 2.2 ppl figured out or that you have found 0.8 scum?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 19 2016 00:30 GMT
#263
On January 19 2016 09:27 Koshi wrote:
I was the inventor. If it was WoS his game.

No it was BC's Boardwalk Empire. Sn0_Man was hte inventor.

On January 19 2016 09:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:15 Tictock wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:10 Keirathi wrote:
Also FWIW, I'd recommend townies at least fucking LOOK at picking defensive roles. I know picking some kind of vig is fun at all, but there's probably going to be 6+ KP flying around N1. There's a balance between denying mafia roles like CPR Doc and keeping townies alive.


Pffft, yea if you care about winning.

Clearly game is actually about picking the dopest role to prove your skills.

Though if you wanna get your medic on that's cool.


Heh, last PYP game I played in, I picked Cop and got green check on a controversial player, figured out who the inventor was, got in a 3 game day argument with geript because he was bad, and figured out why Bill Murray was scum despite the role he claimed.

You can prove your skill, and even have fun doing it, without a KP role


"im so good at mafia guys look at me wowe."


Touche.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 19 2016 00:31 GMT
#264
On January 19 2016 09:27 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I should change to 1:1 to be with you guys


It's always cooler at the bottom.

+ Show Spoiler +
Heat rises.
I can take that responsibility.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 19 2016 00:31 GMT
#265
On January 19 2016 09:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But secret paladin is the most fun class to play!
D:

Only if you're a godless heathen.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 19 2016 00:32 GMT
#266
I already want to kill Palmar.
Minimal effort.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:34 GMT
#267
On January 19 2016 09:31 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But secret paladin is the most fun class to play!
D:

Only if you're a godless heathen.


I was putting my faith in the light even before all this secret ridiculousness - that makes everything I do okay.
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 19 2016 00:36 GMT
#268
Hi, I'm town. What am I supposed to do?
I'm adorable.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 19 2016 00:39 GMT
#269
Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!)

Here is what I'm thinking for town's priority on the roles. The fact that the mafia kp has to be carried out and can be roleblocked or tracked is key. Things like jailer are especially powerful here and there are two of them! With mafia kp only at 2 after n1, the amount of rbing and protective roles can hopefully shut them down. In the past games, town always manages to shoot themselves in the foot by overlapping on their picks way too much while leaving perfectly valid roles unpicked so hopefully we can avoid that. I know everyone wants to be the sexy vig, but don't underestimate the usefulness of a protective or investigative role. The vig's just tend to end the game on day three or something, which is to our detriment in all blue setup.

I think the Link mass roleblock should definitely be used at night 2. It essentially is guaranteed to stop both mafia kp and we get a free lynch from it which is really useful.

I also think we should come up with a list that we should policy lynch if any player is found to have selected it. These roles are essentially only useful in scum hands. In past games, you could always do something like a denial pick or honest check by selecting a scum role in the draft to see if someone above you has picked it, but there are enough role cops that I think we can just get away with policy lynching anyone who is found with one of these.

I also think we should think about a mass claim earlier than later this game, but we can talk about that once it becomes relavent.

High priority:
Link - several very nice 1-shots plus a guaranteed double block of mafia kp
Jailkeeper - rb mafia kp, plus protect
Compulsive Gambler - day vig plus detective check
Holmes - Detective
Moriarty - Role cop, vet, holmes interaction
Captain Malcolm - Very useful to protect any town plan or leaders in general
Dr. House - Track plus protect. so good
Knight Artorias - Busdriver plus day vig, strong enough that I think it may be worth picking isn't of denying
Ayla - Another jailer
CPR Doc - super powerful
The Arrow - day vig with infomation upside

Medium Priority:
Dr. Sy N. Tist - parity cop and protect
Doctor - Always a great pick for lower tier
Time Travelling Vig - delayed vig that is better in hands of town
Yu Narukami - decent 1 shot abilities, might upgrade to high if I can think of a good way to abuse the Death card
Dreamflower - You're likely going to kill yourself within the first few days so I think the other vigs are probably a bit better
Ezio - 1 shot alignment check
Tommy the Fireman - tracker and vet is nice, but relies on target living and has a risky side effect
kitaman27 - :D Nice to verify a role claim or pick something up that slipped through

Low Priority:
Puppeteer - No offense, but your analysis skills aren't so godly that you need to hide behind a smurf
City Councilman - Mayor is typically anti-town. Bodyguard isn't that great compared to other protective roles
Watson - Sanity is nice to have, but meh
Speaker - Not strong enough to justify
Dimensional Lemming - Not as useless as some of the others, but lower on the list
Copycat - depends a bunch on the first lynch
Alchemist - can do better
Flowey - Mafia can hide thier kp this way, might be worth bumping to lowest tier since it isn't all that great to begin with

Policy Lynch:
Hero - If you're getting lynched, the self-pardon isn't going to do anything positive for the game most likely
PSY - Messes with checks. Maybe there is a good use for Hey, Sexy Lady that I'm not thinking off. Still say we ban this one.
Janitor - heh
GreYMisT - eww

???:
Nigella Lawson - Too lazy to look up those abilities at the moment
Werner Von Braun - Need super to translate :D
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:39 GMT
#270
On January 19 2016 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi, I'm town. What am I supposed to do?


Scumhunt?
Discuss plans?

Do something towny?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:41 GMT
#271
Kita - Nigella lawson is really strong and should be high priority iirc.
Jailkeeper/medic. Even if we don't intend to use it we should be denying it to keep the roleblock out of scum hands.
Retired.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 19 2016 00:43 GMT
#272
On January 19 2016 09:30 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote:
Yay I think I have 2 town reads.

and we haven't even started the game proper

FYI I'm probably never saying what I pick. It may or may not be a number I throw out, and I'm not above tanking somebody's spot just kus.

Reads? Care to share who/why?


Thinking Koshi and Superbia town.

Kinda based on meta as well as their mindset.

I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:45 GMT
#273
Actually, looking back it's probably more of a JoaT role this time around?
I could be remembering wrong so I'll go check.
Retired.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
January 19 2016 00:45 GMT
#274
On January 19 2016 09:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!)


What will I be spending my mafia points on?

Kus I kinda don't like this post...
I can take that responsibility.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 19 2016 00:48 GMT
#275
Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 19 2016 00:49 GMT
#276
Alright, I checked.
It was medic/jailkeeper in the other game but the terminology/bolding indicates multiple powers.

Definitely high priority.
Retired.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 19 2016 00:50 GMT
#277
On January 19 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote:
Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed.


Ah yeah I missed the doc part.

On January 19 2016 09:45 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!)


What will I be spending my mafia points on?

Kus I kinda don't like this post...


Sadly nothing, but you're welcome to elaborate.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 19 2016 00:51 GMT
#278
On January 19 2016 09:43 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 09:30 disformation wrote:
On January 19 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote:
Yay I think I have 2 town reads.

and we haven't even started the game proper

FYI I'm probably never saying what I pick. It may or may not be a number I throw out, and I'm not above tanking somebody's spot just kus.

Reads? Care to share who/why?


Thinking Koshi and Superbia town.

Kinda based on meta as well as their mindset.

I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia.


dreamflower is a compulsive vig who has to shoot mafia. I find it very unlikely to be picked by mafia for "town cred".
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 19 2016 00:51 GMT
#279
On January 19 2016 09:48 Keirathi wrote:
Kita: I had Watson as one of the more powerful roles. At least medium tier? Doc with the upside of getting all the cop checks when moriarty or holmes dies assuming they breadcrumbed.


Holy shit that's actually huge.

I think Watson claims d2.
Minimal effort.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 19 2016 00:53 GMT
#280
Holmes is one of those roles that someone in in 20th-22nd pick might wanna think about picking just because how useless the other two might be if it slips through.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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