Yeah tbh I really don't want the watch to go on you. I'm decently sure the Artorias is not in your alignment group at this point. Watch has more important targets.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 21 2016 23:32 GMT

#1892

Just watch for ticktock. x: I'm going to chill&lurk for a bit and then sleep.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 21 2016 23:49 GMT

#1896

On January 22 2016 08:36 AlotSomuch wrote:

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So... I have my suspicion, but I want you to elaborate on why you don't think it's worth using a watcher to find out whether (A) I am scum (B) finding scum who try to roleblock me or (C) find out which scum took the dang busdriver role?

So there's 2 scum teams. Team A and team B.

We know team A has Artorias. We know team B essentially gives no shits about team A and vice-versa. So only team A wants to role-block you. I think you're likely not on team A, so you wouldn't benefit from faking a roleblock. The credit only makes you look better. So one of the 3 of the other scum have to have a role-block ability (possible), and be willing to use it on you. Now that means that these roleblockers are either people that fake-picked (will get found out eventually) or picked a role that can roleblock (which are only one-shots, are likely to be found out, and one of them has the watch ability). So they trade either trade a very precious one-time roleblock on you (yes please), or we'll likely find out who they are eventually with more reliable checks.

I'm completely fine with scum wasting a role-block on you if it means other protective/investigative roles are safe. I'm fairly confident in finding scum regardless of your check. You're going to be on my lynch-list regardless of the outcome.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 21 2016 23:51 GMT

#1897

Also there's a small possibility of team A having absolutely no role-blocks. Having one or maybe two one-shot roleblocks is the highest probability probably.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:01 GMT

#1899

I don't know where geript is at this game tbh. Had him leaning town earlier this game but he's fallen off since then. Don't think he's a good lynch today but probably a good target for a cop.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:02 GMT

#1900

On January 22 2016 08:59 AlotSomuch wrote:
Actually a very different reasoning than I was expecting; I thought you were going to go with a "other people are more valuable" part of it, and I was going to counter that at this point my result is a guaranteed scum or I am, because there is 0 town reason to take that role, so either a scum took it, I lie about my result in which case I am scum, or SL(I think?) lied about it already being taken, in which case he is scum. There is no such guarantee that our cops (assuming they aren't mafia themselves) will actually find scum today or tomorrow or before they are killed. I do see what you are saying about only having to worry about 3 possible people that would want to block it though. I find it a little weird your lack of interest in a guaranteed scum find though in favor of maybes...

... That is essentially what I said. It's town resources vs mafia resources. From my POV we're using a mafia resource in you to get another mafia. If the other mafia want to invest resources to block your resources then I'm 100% fine by that.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:09 GMT

#1902

I have no idea about your play in general. I do know that there are 8 scum in this game, and I think your gameplay has not been very townie in the least. Start being more proactive and maybe you'll change some minds.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:10 GMT

#1903

I'm off to bed for now.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:17 GMT

#1910

(Pro: That's not a good way to start being proactive btw.)

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:17 GMT

#1911

Pro-tip*

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:19 GMT

#1915

Wow FF with the actual logic bomb. Nice.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

January 22 2016 00:21 GMT

#1916

Actually doesn't work in the way you describe it but artorias can fuck over watch indeed.

Superbia

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January 22 2016 00:22 GMT

#1919

On January 22 2016 09:21 AlotSomuch wrote:
Actually, If all actions used on me are driven...then they'd role block/kill who ever the watcher was moved to. And the watcher would see it.

No because they'd swap you with player x and then roleblock x.