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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:14 GMT
#561
On January 11 2016 06:08 nooniansoong wrote:
I don't want to lynch tubesock.
I can't understand most of his posts. His scum game is still fresh in my mind and his posts were a lot easier to follow.
That's because his content this game is much closer to stream of thought.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 00:47 Tubesock wrote:
I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though.

Having a number 4 lynch on d1 is really townie. It shows a lot of thought is going into who might be scum.

On January 11 2016 00:33 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 23:54 Koshi wrote:
I read everything once fast. Going to do some sports and come back.

Tubesock,
Explain to me how you are playing different than the last game in which you were scum?

If I recall, you were also afk for the longest time, and then you came out the gates swinging with a case on Rels. Bit the same like here with Giygas.

What is different?


Good question. And I'm taking it as a compliment since I think you towned me there.

These two games are pretty different situations for me though. Last game I was not ever really scum read until the end. At least not scum read enough to feel threatened. I'm also pretty sure I struck first on Rels. The case I made on him I really believed.

When I'm mafia I triple check every post and make sure there is a corresponding quote I can link for everything I say. I think you could argue that last game I was overexplainy (Ritoky made a post about someone being overexplainers anonymous so I started to focus on that too). I'd be shocked if you can find a post that contradicts itself in that game though. Or a read swap on someone without reasons showing transition. Early posts I made sure I didn't have too many tr's (how Rels caught and killed me in the game prior to that) without any scum reads and that I shouldn't go very long without throwing out a read.

I don't really know how or why you should differentiate my game here and the last one. My AFKness should be NAI. I do not have internet access while I work. And due to my schedule it explains why I only get to play a game every couple of months. Much of the time there is a very real mod kill threat. Which is part of why I conceded last game. I was going to be mod killed 3 days after I conceded and I needed 5 or something to win.

I guess a lot of this questioning I'm getting I don't understand.

My entire point is that GiygaS literally did something that town would NEVER do. It's more than just scumreading me. that's not what my point is. It's how and why he did. If he were town, he'd still scum me, but there is no fucking world that exists where town scums me with his reasonings and his world view. Tell me how that's possible?

Well there's somewhat consistency going on here.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:17 GMT
#562
LIke, town town makes sense, scum scum is kinda gutsy but makes sense, and town/scum or scum/town doesn't really make sense.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 21:17 GMT
#563
On January 11 2016 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ahh nevermind. yeah that makes sense.
##unvote
##vote Tubesock

You think Tubesock is a better shot than Boxer?

I think the aggression in his case on me was to compensate his lack of real scumhunting emotions. I also find him to be more appealing than normally. More moderate. Hard to explain. Dnu. Really think his filter looks mafia.

But Tubesock can really be mafia. I am just thinking boxer is the better lynch if we got to pick one out them. Tubesock might do something later.

yes, the dude can't possibly think i am more likely to be mafia than non-existent kush who he doesn't even seem to have a read on (townread based on one question is fucking bullshit).

The thing is. I can actually see why he wants to lynch you over Kush in his filter. Look at the first post of his second page. That triggers that sentence.
I had a good night of sleep.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:17 GMT
#564
I'm leaning town town at this point if it wasn't clear.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 21:18 GMT
#565
I am still cool with a boxerfred lynch. Be back later.
I had a good night of sleep.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 21:19 GMT
#566
id be happy to lynch boxerfred also.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 21:20 GMT
#567
And yes slOosh, it is a fact that it is impossible for a townie to say scummy things.
If you are not purposefully throwing the game then every single thing you say has a townie agenda that you can explain. It must have, there is no other option. Telling people why they should reasonably scumread you is not an explanation -- because you already claim you are doing something that is not townie. It's really simple. Townies do townie things. Townies never do scummy things. Townies don't say the things they do are a reason to scumread them, they EXPLAIN why the things they do are townie.
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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 21:25 GMT
#568
On January 11 2016 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yes slOosh, it is a fact that it is impossible for a townie to say scummy things.
If you are not purposefully throwing the game then every single thing you say has a townie agenda that you can explain. It must have, there is no other option. Telling people why they should reasonably scumread you is not an explanation -- because you already claim you are doing something that is not townie. It's really simple. Townies do townie things. Townies never do scummy things. Townies don't say the things they do are a reason to scumread them, they EXPLAIN why the things they do are townie.

I respectfully disagree with you on this.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:25 GMT
#569
On January 11 2016 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yes slOosh, it is a fact that it is impossible for a townie to say scummy things.
If you are not purposefully throwing the game then every single thing you say has a townie agenda that you can explain. It must have, there is no other option. Telling people why they should reasonably scumread you is not an explanation -- because you already claim you are doing something that is not townie. It's really simple. Townies do townie things. Townies never do scummy things. Townies don't say the things they do are a reason to scumread them, they EXPLAIN why the things they do are townie.

I disagree but I guess we can discuss this post game in full.

I agree with the first point that everything you do has a townie agenda that you can explain.
However, intent =/= reception.

A town player can do things with town intent yet have bad reception by the group and be considered scum.
They can provide town intent and reasons for what they did, but it doesn't mean that the group will believe them.

Therefore, you can say that a townie can do things with town intent, and understand that you don't have to be scum to misunderstand their intentions.


As it relates to this game, I think what Tubesock said was that he could see how his actions could be construed as scummy. That isn't admitting what he did was scummy. That is saying that what he did could be construed by town as scummy.

Am I making sense?
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 21:27 GMT
#570
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:28 GMT
#571
E.g. suppose any game where mafia are playing lurk style, that is, they aren't actively muddling things up.

And let's suppose a town mislynch happens D1. How is this possible if townies only do townie things?

This is possible because townies may have townie-intent, but it doesn't equate to everyone else understanding and believing that intent.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 10 2016 21:28 GMT
#572
I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town.

I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock.

##Unvote
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 21:29 GMT
#573
It's all about the mindset. I guess you guys don't get it.
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:30 GMT
#574
On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 21:31 GMT
#575
On January 11 2016 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's all about the mindset. I guess you guys don't get it.

Please explain so that I get it
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 21:32 GMT
#576
On January 11 2016 06:30 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?

Noon cares a ton about meta, it's NAI for me in relation to him.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 21:34 GMT
#577
If slOosh is in fact town the mafia should be in the following group:
Nooniansoong/boxerfred/Tubesock/Kmatt. Easily.

Kmatt is just a coin-flip.
I guess people aren't gonna believe me on kush.
boxerfred is an okay lynch.
Tubesock is scum.
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 21:35 GMT
#578
On January 11 2016 06:32 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:30 slOosh wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?

Noon cares a ton about meta, it's NAI for me in relation to him.

Um, I guess what I was getting at was,

Noon meta verifies that Tubesock is playing more to his town meta.

Do you think noon is town and wrong? Scum and buddying? Etc.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 21:38 GMT
#579
On January 11 2016 06:35 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:32 GiygaS wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:30 slOosh wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?

Noon cares a ton about meta, it's NAI for me in relation to him.

Um, I guess what I was getting at was,

Noon meta verifies that Tubesock is playing more to his town meta.

Do you think noon is town and wrong? Scum and buddying? Etc.

I think noon could be either, I have a light town read on him. What I'm saying is that noon bringing it up means nothing to me in relation to my view on him.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#580
On January 11 2016 06:31 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's all about the mindset. I guess you guys don't get it.

Please explain so that I get it

Normally people react to the accusations on them the following way: "why the fuck does this guy call me scum? i am town and i am clearly trying to help the town." or even if they are more "sensitive" in a way they produce their posts it's something along the lines of; "okay so i can get why this guy calls me scum. i am not scum though, so i will try to make my best to explain why i said what he scumreads me for".

The way Tubesock does it is completely different. First of all he is using his "scummy" (which isn't scummy for him after all?) behavior to promote his case on GiygaS in a shitty way, like "this is not a reason to call me scum -- this would be understandable".

It is hard to explain, the last time this happened many people didn't ever get that... It's like, he is downplaying himself to saying "yes i was playing bad" but at the same time saying he wasn't really playing bad. Fuck.. idk how to explain it.

What would your reaction be if i called you scum for any post of yours? (not to even mention Tubesock kinda covered all his filter at that point -- and said HIMSELF he was playing non-optimally).
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