EPTOn December 23 2015 05:23 Damdred wrote:
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hf is in so I must try my hardest
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On December 23 2015 20:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: /cohost  | ||
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-throws <3s @ lexy and gb- | ||
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not prioritizing this game | ||
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On December 27 2015 00:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Second. Prioritizing work and this person instead. should i be jealous? >> | ||
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who, that bitch? you've got awful taste :/ | ||
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On December 27 2015 00:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I know I do. I guess you should be jealous then :/ -stabs with a fork and rolls away giggling- | ||
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Nothing else worth commenting on from phone. carry on | ||
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On December 27 2015 09:18 Damdred wrote: Your right guys I'm 100% wrong. I'm sorry I'll be back later >> add damdy to the rit pile shame on you damdy lol | ||
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On December 27 2015 09:26 ExO_ wrote: walk in, posts grarbage reads, gets called out, leaves. wow he's town. find someone else to harass ^^ | ||
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On December 27 2015 09:35 Damdred wrote: But I was trying to conform and act to happy what did I do this time q.q the annoyance was real lol it's all right @art if you mean the manufactured excuse to not read, i'm not sure it's as significant as you thought it was? if not, i don't see it. him pushing on damdy is pointless though ^^ | ||
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i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that? | ||
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i don't have a 100% scumread on gb but i really do think he is scum so far a d1 scumread like that has always been right with one exception gb is far too directed and monotone to be the town gb i know and love this game | ||
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On December 27 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie. If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum which game are you referring to? | ||
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[QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: hey gb i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that? [/QUOTE]I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm[/QUOTE] Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me[/QUOTE] I don't get your initial reply though. -Presumably, Rsoul is the GB whisperer. -She reads you as scum. -You don't have a read on her. -Instead of finding this suspicious, you waiver it off as "Eh, I have no reason to read you as scum." Only now do you actually think her reply was town, so you didn't there at first which makes it even scummier.[/QUOTE] I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie. If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum[/QUOTE] which game are you referring to?[/QUOTE The game where you and Rayn were about to kynch me and I had to scream my lungs off to prove I'm town [/QUOTE] you do know i said d1 right? -flicks viva- it's not infallible obviously. i've already admitted that, mr. snarky. i've been wrong (unless i'm misremembering) on an early d1 scumread exactly once before (jat) and i corrected it before EoD so...i know that may not mean a lot to some but it does make me more inclined to trust it when i really think someone is scum d1 you're not my biggest fan, so even though this feels like an attempt to discredit i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and see what else you do. just be aware that you're on my radar now ^^ | ||
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i still think gb is most likely of everyone who has posted to be scumre: vivax, he frequently says i'm obstructive as town etc. etc. so specifically with him he could just be a dick, but given how little he's posted so far, it's interesting that he attacks me slantways that way. he doesn't have a read on me (though he does give a weak townread on gb) and instead just mocks my way of getting reads -shrugs- if gb's mafia that's not a bad tactic for a scum-mate to employ and i've seen nothing from viva to make me think that he's town @gb - everything below -flicks viva- is directed at him and not you | ||
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On December 27 2015 10:40 Vivax wrote: I just disagree with your reads and Damdred's too when I think they aren't warranted, there is no intent to discredit anyone, but I'll let you know that ritoky town and GB mafia is not what I'm seeing in their posts so far. lol snide way to go about it  that's fair. hopefully whoever is right can convince the other one assuming that we're all town i'm more interested in your take on the rest of the game though, viva | ||
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happy holidays to everyone and all that jazz! -poofs- | ||
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I hate you for being more articulate than me hf :/ Rayn, bad. bad. bad rayn. drams was a clusterfuck d1 cause i was having difficulty finding scum which led to the whole marv fiasco. this is not comparable at all. this is clarity. You think gb looking more town (please define what you mean here) than he normally does as town is a good thing? | ||
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@rayn im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams. Ill look at tt but honestly i doubt i know him well enough for a d1 read of any worth | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part? IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it. D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything? Nh, i kinda think town or pocketing me hard tbh. its not a well-developed read | ||
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ill revisit...its bad that i read it and cant remember what he said already though lol | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay we are in the same boat with where his alignment falls atm. Like some things look very town but there are a few really weird things in his filter. Like the Trfel townread (well not that in itself) but the followup... Is like... meh. I also didn't like the GB question from him because considering N e s s as mafia at that point was imo perfectly reasonable. Hm. Well art has been relying more on tone recently than he used to and ness was pretty tonally town so it didnt bug me too much, but i gey where youre coming from. As for tt, idk. The scumreads seem rather lazy. smurf thing is an ick reason but his ness scumread is focusing on scummy things i guess even if i disagree that scum posts so blatantly scummy. he could believe it maybe? | ||
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I could see him believing his scumreads. | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: The kush thing is basically at best him not reading the thread properly -- it was pointed out by HF already that kush outed his smurf in another thread, there is absolutely nothing scummy in it. Ness' play looks more like he (she?) just doesn't know who is scum and isn't overplaying anything. I don't know where the "he doesn't follow up on his questions" comes from because basically noone ever answered him in the first place....... It just doesn't make any sense to scumread Ness here, it would make sense to not townread him -- but scumread is definitely not a legit read, at least for those reasons imo. Nh i was looking mostly at the bolded sections of the quoted posts. and yeah the kush smurf read is ick. Idk could be. Could lynch but i cant say that im fully convinced hes scum | ||
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Lol im just gonna call you town <3 for the day | ||
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Uber cuteness ^^ Its more just that hes a new fish in a big pond with suspicion on him already but still is unafraid to post and contradict ppl. i dont see him being this relaxed as scum in a new environment and its enough to townread him for the day and focus on others i think | ||
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On December 27 2015 16:43 Trfel wrote: To throw my reputation out the window or not...... Meh, I guess I'll go for it. rsoultin? (runs for cover) >> and here i was compiling reads before bed. tsk tsk course blah that's too much work so i'm just gonna glance down the player lynch and do shitty lists! \o/ Town (in no particular order cause why) Coag Damdy rayn art slam koshi truffle - cuz otherwise he's a stupid little mafioso No Lynch D1 N e s s ritoky - think is town and rayn is wrong, but could fool me hf - could fool me Preferred lynches Viva GB (maybe...kinda don't want to let this one go cause i'll be mad if y'all talked me out of it and he ends up being scum) OWS Could lynch noon (doesn't sit right...not too familiar with kush, but is he normally this much of a pussy? i know he frequently afks as town and gets mislynched) tt (more cause i know rayn is town and don't mind sheeping him than because i really feel he's scum, but whatevs. rayn picks up on things i don't ^^) sl (voting the wrong dude )yup didn't include anyone i don't have an opinion on (though i may have forgotten people too, and that should worry them for being forgettable ^^) | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:08 ExO_ wrote: So far for me: Town: Damdred, ritoky Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me. ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum. Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum. HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum. I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily. Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far. i'd pout for old time's sake but honestly...eh i've been kinda not bothering with you either ^^ hihi! disagree on the vivax thing with hf, predominately because it is known that vivax will play as town and not as scum, though it's also true that viva has been mislynched for deliberately playing to his scum meta as town (no i don't understand why people use this cop out way of making themselves harder to read instead of just working on their scum game, but whatevs). that's all to say i think it's a legit enough read PLUS if hf is scum he'd 100% buss a scum viva who wasn't playing anyway, so this doesn't really matter imo i like that you're focusing on the big names instead of lynchbait tho ^^ might bump you into my do not lynch pile with oneg now i really should sleep :/ | ||
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but as for my ows read, he was just sitting there asking questions when i asked him if he'd finished reading yet, because it was kinda obvious he hadn't. when i said "just spinning your wheels" i meant he was doing nothing of any significance. he gave a couple reads after that but it was pretty blah to me. maybe i should give him towncred for admitting he wasn't reading the game when i called him out on it but i don't really think it means anything when he was already caught with his hand in the cookie jar so to speak as for hf, he and rit both just seem to be seeing the game similarly to the way i am. which either means they're town or i'm very wrong ^^ since i'm capable of being very wrong and they're capable of fooling me as scum, they get fun waffly disclaimers. tbf though i kinda feel like hf's approach here where he questions people and gives them room is more town indicative. i remember his scum play being more aggressive than this and this reminds me more of how he questioned slam in some town game that i forget. it might have been the one we were both nk'd n1 i don't remember | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:18 ExO_ wrote: why's onegu in a do not lynch pile? The guy's done nothing in the game this far. Until he actually makes some effort I don't see why he shouldn't be lynched as an inactive for instance. What makes you think he's worth keeping so far? gut feels i won't discuss at this time | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:27 Trfel wrote: Thanks rsoultin, I guess I'll probably have to re-evaluate tomorrow. I can't trust myself to think right now For later, but, that game where Holyflare questioned Alakaslam... Were you thinking of Guardians of the Galaxy mafia? Because that's the game I thought of, and I checked it, and it didn't feel similar to this at all. Though Holyflare is clearly using a different style this game (which I don't think is very alignment indicative, if anything slightly town indicative), so I don't feel comfortable with the meta. Anyway, I'm not really sure about Holyflare All I do know is that I refuse to mislynch him, and I'm not going to scumread him for stupid reasons, but I suffer from extreme paranoia, so I have a lot of things to work through.@ExO_, historically rsoultin has been good at tone reading Onegu. At least, I'm pretty sure that she thinks so nh one game i decided i wanted to push lynchbait onegu and did a thorough dive of his past games, and i've been pretty accurate since, this is true. it's early to call this read rock solid, though, so gut feel it is and yes, that's probably the one? maybe? it was the one where slam was trying to play more serious and hf went after him for it but was still leaving things open for slam to defend himself i know that the play isn't exact here and i'm not saying i'm sure on hf cause obviously i'm not, but i think of his play in...himalayas that's the one...where he was super aggressive and i'd say this is closer to his town play. one thing i admire about his play (and really all the better players on this site) is their ability to resist getting tunneled at least to some extent. take it or leave it but that's why i'm inclined to townread him even though i know he's one of the best scumplayers on TL | ||
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knowing how much effort you put into games, truffle wuffle, all i can say is you're very much wasting your time here ^^ even if you can't get over your paranoia it would serve you better to look elsewhere for my so-called "scum-mates" | ||
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On December 27 2015 18:01 Onegu wrote: HAHAHAHA Rsoul is scum. She wants to put me in her no lynch pile because she knows I would OMGUS her so hard so she tries to buddy me. BUT I MINDTRICKED HER SO HARD. drat :/ you caught me | ||
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On December 27 2015 18:03 Onegu wrote: Baby Seals + Show Spoiler + shh. maybe the stupid townies won't notice >> they are pretty good at ignoring onegus | ||
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is this because shining should be posting on the weekend since it's not his usual dead time? | ||
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not sure i can read him even still but he really does have a good chance to be town since he afks so much as that alignment :/ | ||
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On December 28 2015 01:34 Damdred wrote: Shining knows the game is going on. I believe at least, it is also his free time until tomorrow anyway so yeah. And most the players have a town read on me so yeah okay lol i had a similar thought so that makes sense are you sure he's not just busy with family or something given it's the holidays? i don't really keep in touch with him much anymore | ||
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-beats sl with a stick- | ||
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On December 28 2015 01:51 Holyflare wrote: where is moosy? thought he was super keen to play prob means he's town tbh. he actually likes scum. the crazy. or he could just be busy. there's that too | ||
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rayn do you really think ness is scum here? cause if you don't it would probably be better to drop it i think | ||
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On December 28 2015 05:13 Damdred wrote: Shining us here I will pay close attention now lol +1 (i'd expect no less from you damdy ^^) alright rayn @ExO_ and anyone else because I really don't care to waste time on this Coag and I are either masons or scum together That means that the real masons (if we were scum) should have claimed awhile ago since the majority of the game has seen it now. There is absolutely 100% no downside for real masons to CC here If you are town and someone claims that you are their mason partner and you go along with it you are behaving very stupidly because of the point above ExO, your theory is flawed because there is no reason for a scum!rsoul to top her town list with afk lynch/vig/check bait unless she is making a retarded yolo play to protect her scum buddy d1 while fully knowing that there are masons in the game. You are insulting my intelligence pretty hard if you're assuming the latter (which you're not, fortunately) but the former is still not a winning play for scum and kind of a weird theory. Because I should be fully expecting to be CCd here if I'm scum and the question becomes "why"? As to my actual thought process, I recognize that Coag could be a shennanies candidate, a vig shot, a check, etc. and particularly in the case of the former I wanted to be able to remove him from the board (for those paying attention) and refer back to it later (if i had to). Also with 3 mafia kp (if i understand the OP correctly) n1 and n2, I wanted to remove all doubt as to who my mason partner was so scum couldn't claim it and mislynch him later. No I would not play this way with all mason partners but I have played this way with ones I think have a high chance of possibly being the lynch or struggling to get townread after I'm gone. (See: Fidei) If you have further questions, you can ask. I would have rather had SL not act like a loon about it and just quietly accept it like damdy did but...water under the bridge. I'd rather not waste a ton of time on this. And I'm not particularly inclined to indulge you cause frankly it doesn't matter because I'm never being lynched this game unless mafia is willing to trade 2 for 2 or town does something stupid. | ||
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On December 28 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can i also say that if you think Exo is town you should probably obey his wish so we can be 100% sure you are either mason or mafia? you can be 100% sure anyway cause there's no point for me to claim mason with a town coag if i'm scum and really i have never ever ever in any game on this site ever fake-claimed. so people shouldn't be questioning me anyway unless they think i do it now on d1 for no reason | ||
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On December 28 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is that productive when you can stop it? lol no it's not productive but I kind of hoped he'd just realize that his theory doesn't make sense anyway and drop it + Show Spoiler + mostly cause i can't remember if he was SB or someone else on the other site which is slightly embarrassing but it's been like a year >> don't hate me exo! lol -slinks off into the shame corner- | ||
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On December 28 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I believe Coag doesn't even know the other site.... So who cares. -shrugs- that's fair. i can give him the name of the site if that makes everyone happy it's not exactly a secret here but i don't think coag knows | ||
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On December 28 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well if anyone else wants to claim mason then please go a head in your next post. It's the correct play. -rubs hands together- | ||
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also i think hf is town. like i'm almost willing to just say he's town and only revisit at lylo. i think he lets everyone shit up the thread if he's scum here, at least if he's playing scum the way i remember him playing scum for what it's worth also i don't want to lynch bf still i'm fine with both of those rayn but i have to split now. ciao | ||
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On December 28 2015 16:22 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin (or anyone else), thoughts on this post? I realize I'm behind, perhaps this was discussed already, but this post seems rather off to me. what seems off about it? sounds like standard ego/frustration which doesn't seem weird to me coming from hf or half the other players in this game lol >< | ||
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noon, tt and viva are okay too but ive seen something to think they might be town if only a small thing in just one post from each of them more thorough look in the morning | ||
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On December 29 2015 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes. TT/kush/boxerfred is where i think most likely scum are at this point. I can be wrong on boxerfred but... i don't think i am. His dumbass question about my list post should almost definitely make him scum. idk.. maybe shining is town? i didn't pay attention to his posts yet. then maybe Rels is scum, but i don't wanna go there yet. Artanis could actually be scum, especially now that Vivax is town. OWS is definitely not mafia. i'm not gonna pretend to know anything about TT and kush, cause i feel a lot of the cases on them are semantical and the same with art's case on ows but i just don't like ows' play this game at all. semantical is not a word but yay! \o/ it just means it gets into the nitty gritty of word choice and what someone "should" see or post, which is not the type of case that really makes me confident in their alignment but bf makes a ton more sense to me as scum than he does when he's town. i won't lynch him today ^^ also i like palmar ^^ | ||
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if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best | ||
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maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason loli'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago pretty lazy i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something | ||
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i'm gonna read rit's case closer -throws <3s at rayn- calm down man | ||
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when you come back from a hiatus expecting to roll town in a mini and instead roll scum with a bunch of afkers in a large normal? it's not a wild thought -shrugs- nor am i saying for sure you're scum but yeah i'm not really that impressed hf sorry to say :/ | ||
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On December 29 2015 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning. he's been too robotic/reasonable for me since the beginning...so tone read basically | ||
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not sure that i really want to sheep stubborn rayn on vivax...damdy will be the one i sheep then | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: Prefer gb but i cant move well on phone. are we willing to actually put our votes where our mouths are or arent we? | ||
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prob not enough though | ||
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11 on one player and the rest scattered around everywhere that is never hitting scum in a 25 player game. that was prob a town v. town lynch regardless i have to split again woulda been cooler if we'd hit scum | ||
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heard it here first :-) | ||
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On December 30 2015 02:32 Holyflare wrote: Can someone give me a gun please? if it's gb i sanction it ^^ especially if he flips scum because then i can stop being paranoid of you ^^ | ||
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On December 30 2015 02:34 boxerfred wrote: if GB flips town we should lynch HF >> i agree with you, kinda. not like insta!lynch HF but my paranoia would still be there | ||
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also @rayn...if my reads turn out to be better than yours when i'm not putting nearly as much effort into the game because of family time and whatnot, you really need to stop saying i'm playing bad meanie :/ | ||
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Coagulation - duh Damdred - tone, 100% accuracy rayn - duh artanis - <3 koshi - cuz koshi truffle wuffle - for the wuffle waffle sicklucker - for reading my posts (just check out the scum qt in drams for why i think that means anything) glowingbear - oops lol >> checking filters is a thing Townleans Onegu - doing nothing town meta Palmar - sounds like a town palmar to me, giving reads and being open about how much weight we should put on those reads at the same time, and i don't really get why ppl are scumreading him but :/ yeah Exo_ - he annoys me, but prob town for the reasons everyone says he is ritoky - <3 i don't know that i'll ever be able to confidently townread you, but i want to so far this game so there's that Alakaslam - the excitement feels town to me don't know what else to say Vivax - don't see scum vivax playing this way and would rather lynch scum @rayn bf - brazenness is totally his town wheelhouse maaaybe town tictock - don't see the scum others do, and i still think the vote spread prior to shennanies prob means town The Shining - just trusting damdy here, no reason to scumread him personally...grain of salt ??? Holyflare - can't decide OO - obv n e s s - would have said town but the disappearing thing is giving me twitches. he could have just decided he doesn't want to play with TL assholes anymore noon - i've never seen a trying kush. i'm not even sure what to make of it so...:/ maybe i should trust truffle and bump him down to scumlean though. tempting scumlean MD - he seems to be dicking around, but not really, and it almost seems like he has a token scumread for the sake of having a token scumread. doesn't seem like a town MD to me tbh OWS - still don't like him, stiff, unoriginal, blah | ||
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scum trying to flatter me | ||
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On January 17 2016 08:25 ExO_ wrote: You know what I'm salty about is fucking coag :/ >> you really like scumming me btw for really dumb reasons <3 | ||
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i even dropped gb last minute @.@ only thing i saved town from was mislynching my mason partner lol | ||
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On January 19 2016 22:45 nooniansoong wrote: doesn't onegu fake claiming here disprove this? no? i wouldn't call onegu's claim messy. cop claim on role-copped gunsmith who didn't claim when he was almost lynched the day before, plus knowing that he could be cc'd...i'm sure he already had his story prepared before he ever claimed. no doubt they had an eye out for weird reactions to his claim as well like...some town roles will think out their claims but a lot of times it's in the moment. and a lot of times they'll have some whacky reasoning for what they did cause they're town and don't have perfect information, whereas scum will usually take the time to prepare a plausible story and claim doing the actions that make the most sense (or possibly won't have any impact on the game, depending) now i'm babbling but that's all to say that for these reasons i'd say you could generally expect a scum fake claim to be more "believable" than a town claim. just take a look at the rels and moosy roleblocker claims in drams. rels even breadcrumbed his intended fake claim really early...but moosy comes in not even understanding that as roleblocker he can rb kp lol <- that's not something you're going to see in a scum fakeclaim generally. it simply isn't. dumbtells ftw | ||
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